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Given it’s probably June that we’ll now see or hear about the new MacPro, does that increase the likelihood it will use the M3 chip or is it still far too early for that to happen?

That is what I'm really really hoping for. But generally speaking, I expecting to be let down on almost every front. Plan for the worst, hope for the best.
 

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Given it’s probably June that we’ll now see or hear about the new MacPro, does that increase the likelihood it will use the M3 chip or is it still far too early for that to happen?
If it is only an announcement with shipping end of year like December, then it will be M3 yes. With shipping this summer, then no M3…
 
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ZombiePhysicist

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Only possible if M3 does not use 3nm node. Every bit of 3nm manufacturing capacity will be reserved for iPhone 15 this year, you can be sure of that.

You may well be right, but I would think MacPro M3 chips would be a production round off error, capacity wise to the iPhone and could be fit in without much disruption. I could easily be wrong too. I think the M3 for Mac Pro is a pretty long shot, sadly. :/
 

Mac Kiwi

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Sadly I can see it being two studios stuck on top of each other , at best .

With Tim’s continual cost cutting shenanigans ( doesn’t affect his $50m bonus though ) I can see all our hopes and dreams dashed by the inevitable compromises 😢
Oof. I really hope that isn’t the case. But I'm not putting down 20k + ( NZ $ ) for something that gets smoked by its competition because that would be insane.
 

Mago

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does that increase the likelihood it will use the M3 chip or is it still far too early for that to happen?
Chances=0

Even Don't hold your breath for a m3 Mac pro, likely Mac Pro to launch on m2 ultra and extreme, then Skip m3 untill m4 family brings new multi chiplet.

Same the Mac studio likely skipping m2 pro/ultra for M3 pro/ultra.

As the iMac also skipping M2 for M3, only Macs to update yearly Will be the MacBook air and pro, and maybe the Mini but I won't bet my beers on the mini.
 

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m3 will be for a high volume consumer Mac like mini or air, Mac Pro will feature m2 extreme ultra something or other. Looks like June is when we find out what.
 
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Mago

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Another rumour (not from me) and it's SHOCKING.

Chinese forum speculate the New Mac Pro is in trashcan form factor, with one or two M2-Ultra linked by an New UltraFusion to UltraFusion fabric, if not enough bad news, only storage is discreet, 6x TB4 and 4 USB 3.1 type A like the Old trashcan "can't innovate my ass anymore" , and comment it to be released at WWDC keynote and not at late April.

Many Chinese says that's true.

If said thing is true, means two things:

Apple not interested in HPC anymore, Mac studio likely an stop Gap product irrelevant having with the new trashcan, likely along the iMac pro and the 7,1 will be gallery items.

Personally I love the trashcan, but an dual m2 ultra without options for PCIe dGPU it's just an glorified designer workstation.

Assuming is true, Said M2-Ultra² trashcan (this naming has sense now) will top at 384GB soldered RAM and 16TB storage.

Allegedly the WWDC Logo it's an clear hint, and to be honest its now seems everything wrong now has sense.
 

Joe The Dragon

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Another rumour (not from me) and it's SHOCKING.

Chinese forum speculate the New Mac Pro is in trashcan form factor, with one or two M2-Ultra linked by an New UltraFusion to UltraFusion fabric, if not enough bad news, only storage is discreet, 6x TB4 and 4 USB 3.1 type A like the Old trashcan "can't innovate my ass anymore" , and comment it to be released at WWDC keynote and not at late April.

Many Chinese says that's true.

If said thing is true, means two things:

Apple not interested in HPC anymore, Mac studio likely an stop Gap product irrelevant having with the new trashcan, likely along the iMac pro and the 7,1 will be gallery items.

Personally I love the trashcan, but an dual m2 ultra without options for PCIe dGPU it's just an glorified designer workstation.

Assuming is true, Said M2-Ultra² trashcan (this naming has sense now) will top at 384GB soldered RAM and 16TB storage.

Allegedly the WWDC Logo it's an clear hint, and to be honest its now seems everything wrong now has sense.
they can add some m.2 slots at the very least?
Or apple can spin an 4 slot apple storage raid0 setup as the fastest storage ever in an workstation.
But who would buy that at apples prices and have an raid 0 setup that needs high cost parts and DFU mode to restore (if apple lets you buy just say card 3 and not force you to buy an full set of cards just to repair 1)
 

stevebatter

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That's interesting - especially as it's more than one person leaking the info.

I'll be really surprised if they go back to a similar form factor as the 2013 MP following the apology tour they did before the launch of the 2019 MP. I have a 2013 MP and really like it but I want something I can upgrade, repair easily, and put PCIe cards in.

I appreciate Apple isn't aiming their products at people like me anymore, but I can wish! :)
 

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kiiso

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Can't but this guy seems also goes there

The only reason why i don’t dismiss immediately this speculation:
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Apple Knowledge Navigator

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Another rumour (not from me) and it's SHOCKING.

Chinese forum speculate the New Mac Pro is in trashcan form factor, with one or two M2-Ultra linked by an New UltraFusion to UltraFusion fabric, if not enough bad news, only storage is discreet, 6x TB4 and 4 USB 3.1 type A like the Old trashcan "can't innovate my ass anymore" , and comment it to be released at WWDC keynote and not at late April.

Many Chinese says that's true.

If said thing is true, means two things:

Apple not interested in HPC anymore, Mac studio likely an stop Gap product irrelevant having with the new trashcan, likely along the iMac pro and the 7,1 will be gallery items.

Personally I love the trashcan, but an dual m2 ultra without options for PCIe dGPU it's just an glorified designer workstation.

Assuming is true, Said M2-Ultra² trashcan (this naming has sense now) will top at 384GB soldered RAM and 16TB storage.

Allegedly the WWDC Logo it's an clear hint, and to be honest its now seems everything wrong now has sense.
Interesting, but I still highly doubt this is true.

The 'trashcan' was a poor product on many levels and won't reiterate all, but one of those was that it was engineered around a 2 x GPU and 1 x CPU concept. That triad was the basis of the heatsink that formed the cylinder in the first place. Apple Silicon doesn't need a triad layout.

Apple made such a big deal of emphasising the expandability of 7,1, I would be shocked if they did a 180º again and tried to argue that the 'trashcan' concept is an improvement. Besides, with a lack of eGPU support, how are they going to keep on par with the current AMD graphics options?

Not only this but, because of the nature of the M-series chips, there is even less configurability for different workflows. For instance, an audio engineer who wants all CPU would have to upgrade to the better chips and pay for graphics cores that they don't need. They would also have no internal storage capability, so slots for AVID cards or the alike.

The way I see it, Mac mini with M-Pro chip is the trashcan replacement; Mac Studio is a stop-gap; Mac Pro will be the tower.
 

innerproduct

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The absolutely only reason I would want a tower is upgradable GPU. Otherwise I want the smallest possible footprint.
A quad m2max in updated cylinder format would be so cool I could not resist hehe
 
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