And after all that it still gets a higher rating than the s3.
I understand you have an s3 and need to justify your purchase. Just saying the reviews and benchmarks point that the iPhone 5 is better.
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50 reasons the Galaxy S3 is better than the iPhone 5
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And after all that it still gets a higher rating than the s3.
I understand you have an s3 and need to justify your purchase. Just saying the reviews and benchmarks point that the iPhone 5 is better.
7:33-7:40 is one example. It's a good phone and I like the big screen and design, but Android is choppy and less refined feeling than iOS. I use my phone for making calls, texting, and casual entertainment when there's nothing else to do, so I couldn't care less about Android's "openness" or the long list of other things people boast about.
No one is denying the scores. The iPhone 5 is a phenomenal device. But is there anything else you can retort with besides pointing to scores and benchmarks? This is almost like iOS fans mentioning Apple's sales figures as if that somehow means it's a better OS.
Anything you disagree with regarding Josh Topolsky's review of iOS and its shortcomings? Is he wrong?
Anything else you can retort with to the 50 things listed in the video? Are all 50 things absolutely useless to you? If Apple were to have those 50 features while the competition didn't, would you be just as dismissive? Somehow, I doubt it.
Like I said, it's great you find the iPh5 good for you, but coming to the Alternative forums to point out scores and benchmarks will convince people who want more from their phones very little. Entering a thread discussing 50 things the S3 has that the iPh5 doesn't only to point out some apparent choppiness while having little to nothing to retort about the actual list is revealing. And S3 owners are the insecure ones, right.
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That's great, but try not to pretend the iPhone doesn't lag or have its share of issues every now and then too. I've owned two iPhones in the past, and have experienced lag with the keyboard (numerous missed keys, multiple letters that don't write out until a second or so later after tapping, etc.); I've experienced lag with folders opening; lag with certain apps launching or switching between apps; I've even experienced the occasional freezing (especially with the lock screen); seen missing icons, etc.
No OS is perfect.
I have a Samsung GP5 and an iPhone 4. I have an iPhone 5 that just passed through Anchorage, AK yesterday on its way here. Yay!
I'm really impressed with the video and I plan to watch his iP5 video when it comes out. I was stuck at a hotel in Houston where the wifi in the lobby was on the fritz and they wanted me to pay 11 bucks per night per device for internet. The clueless idiots tried to say it was my iPad's fault I couldn't get online. So I went up to the room and grabbed my GP5 and brought up Wifi Analyzer.
I showed the snarklehead at the front desk the signals rising and falling so quickly it was impossible to do any real work using their "free" internet. This convinced them to waive the charges for the rest of my stay. I could have shown them the same thing on my iP4... if I'd been willing to jailbreak it and get the same app through Cydia.
When the guy was talking about openness, despite the fact I normally like curated computing, I found myself in agreement because the bad experience in Houston was still fresh in my memory.
I'm really impressed with the video and I plan to watch his iP5 video when it comes out. I was stuck at a hotel in Houston where the wifi in the lobby was on the fritz and they wanted me to pay 11 bucks per night per device for internet. The clueless idiots tried to say it was my iPad's fault I couldn't get online. So I went up to the room and grabbed my GP5 and brought up Wifi Analyzer.
I showed the snarklehead at the front desk the signals rising and falling so quickly it was impossible to do any real work using their "free" internet. This convinced them to waive the charges for the rest of my stay. I could have shown them the same thing on my iP4... if I'd been willing to jailbreak it and get the same app through Cydia.
When the guy was talking about openness, despite the fact I normally like curated computing, I found myself in agreement because the bad experience in Houston was still fresh in my memory.
It's just such a cluttered, haphazard UI that changes from screen to screen. There's so much ugly design, with no polish. I don't know how to elaborate, do you want me to critically analyze each frame or something?
I have no idea which video you're talking about but I've tried TouchWiz and I'm currently running Vanilla Android and neither are anywhere near as you describe them.
Usually that means you dont know what your talking about. I mean if you cant even explain yourself, then what you said is irrelevant. However, we all know your a hater anyways. Dont know why you bother to come to the alternative section.
Not at all. I know exactly what in talking about, and I clarified it. I like Android a lot, but it's not without flaws. This forum is designated to compare alternatives to iOS devices, after all.
Frankly, I don't see how it changes anymore than iOS from screen to screen. In Android you have your desktop screens which you can setup however you want with widgets or icons, then if you enter system settings you have a different looking interface and if you enter the notifications you also have a different view.
It is the same with iOS. You enter the Notificaiton Center you have one interface, you enter system settings, another interface both different from the home screens with the rows of icons.
If you are talking about individual applications, again how is it so different from iOS? Even with the stock apps from Apple in iOS you have many different looking interfaces. From Newsstand to Passbook to Notes/Reminders to Weather and Music, you get varying interfaces.
For 3rd party apps, applications like Twitter, Google+, YouTube, Instagram, Evernote, Amazon, IMDB, Netflix, etc look practically the same on Android and iOS, thus if these 3rd party apps make Android's UI look "cluttered" and "haphazard", then they do the same to iOS given how similar these apps look in both platforms.
Just use iOS for a day and then do what this guy did on the video. You'll know what I'm talking about. This sort of thing is clear as day for iOS users, Android users seem to just delude themselves into disregarding design or finish. Or iOS users care about pointless things and live in a dysfunctional sandbox, from the other perspective.
I've been using iOS for well over three years
First with an iPod touch, then an iPhone 3GS and then an iPhone 4.I've been using iOS for well over three years
Android's biggest issues for me are it's ugly 3rd party apps, it's lack of polish, and it's weak responsiveness. iOS has always had all three, and I'm spoiled by it. Even the UX head of Android feels they are only 1/3rd of where he'd like to be with polish and responsiveness. As soon as they fix those and get everything up to iOS-level, I'm jumping ship.
What 3rd party apps are you referring to that are ugly? I listed several of the most commonly used apps. Others like Dropbox, WhatsApp, Google Drive, Shazam, Chrome, feedly, pulse, etc look very much as they do in iOS. Other apps that are not also in iOS like doubleTwist have a nice looking interface.
Are there ugly 3rd party apps? Of course...on both Android and iOS. But there are also plenty of good looking ones and the most common apps that are both on Android and iOS look practically the same.
Sure, not that this means much. I am sure that if asked and if he is honest, Forestall would admit that there is plenty of work to do in iOS too as far as improving polish and responsiveness. My iPhone 4 lagged and was slow to respond occasionally with iOS 5. My uncle also complained about this happening to him on his iPhone 4.
Granted, Android is not as responsive as iOS but I have to say that using my S3 with Ice Cream Sandwich I find Android very responsive and fast, do not experience any lag and after I install the Jelly Bean update it will be even quicker. The difference in responsiveness between iOS and Android is practically negligible with the latest updates and modern hardware.
Seems to me that iOS has remained unchanged in going on 6 years now and on a phone that hasn't changed in 3. I have owned all the iPhone models and since the iPhone 4 (which I was the most excited about) every year since, has been a let down. And when I pre-ordered the iphone 5 on the first day, I was worried for the first time about the quality. sure enough, I opened my box to find dings and scratches on my new phone. There was also a pixelization issue on the virtual keyboard, and some bad lag issues. I took it back to AT&T. If you consider this sort of thing quality design and finish, then I do not agree. Maps for ios is flawed so badly that it is useless for most outside the US. This reminds me of the rush to put Siri out to make people buy the 4S, instead of the 4. Siri was crap, much like Vlingo and so many other services before it. Or how about the inability for 90% of apps on the iP5 to scale properly? Developers had 2 years to integrate the scaling code into their apps. You call having to deal with letterboxing, quality design and finish?
I have zero issues with my S3 (which I also pre-ordered when it was released back in June) and unlike so many iphone users that need to have a plastic case and screen protector to prevent further scratching and dings to their iphones, I don't and haven't needed a case on my S3. Still looks brand new. (Although I did dump that plastic battery cover for one that is substantially better, giving the S3 a better feel, look and added strength. I have large hands and the S3 fits better for me. The iphone 5 is still to tiny for my tastes. 4.5" to 4.8" is perfect imo. I'm also getting older, so the bigger screen helps me as well.)
I also find the Android OS to be smooth, easy to use and my phone doesn't look anything like every other S3. Every iphone looks like a clone of each other. individuality in Apple's world consists of being allowed to change your wallpaper or put a unique plastic case on your iphone. It reminds me so much of the grey human clones in Apple's 1984 commercial. To me, this is one of the main reasons iphone owners buy cases. It is the only way to make their phone look different.
Prior to ICS on Android, I do believe iOS was faster and smoother. Post ICS, that is not the case. Both perform equally well imo, I have just not been satisified with Apple's status quo lately. Especially after Steve relinquished control to Tim. I pray that my next Mac isn't riddled with issues. I only deal with Windows machines when I have to. But these are just my opinions.
Yeah, well, when people are discussing and comparing the latest tech products they usually do forget about the previous gen. Of course they do. Who is still talking about the iPhone 4S, comparing it to other phones, etc? No one.
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Add this to #61 or whatever we are on now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bse99YMeeoE
Add this to #61 or whatever we are on now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bse99YMeeoE
iOS has subtle changes that are non-intuitive for users too.
In contacts, the search box is not immediately visible on the iPhone and you have to drag down to see it. In music, the box is visible immediately.
A so called tech enthusiast thought that you had to tap the clock to make the search bar appear in contacts, obviously not realising that's a shortcut for scrolling to the top of a list.
Nothing is perfect. Android is a more complex OS and is therefore likely to have more UI flaws.
90% of the interface in that video was disgusting. The Play Store is lacking, in numbers and quality. Developers still clearly favor the App Store to this day, and it's not hard to see why. And when I talk responsiveness, I'm talking how well the software tracks your finger. Jellybean improved responsiveness, but it's still behind iOS. For such a rudimentary task, you'd think Google would be on top of this. Google is more concerned with functions/tech stuff than the user experience.
TE=zbarvian;16043403]90% of the in that video was disgusting. The Play Store is lacking, in numbers and quality. Developers still clearly favor the App Store to this day, and it's not hard to see why. And when I talk responsiveness, I'm talking how well the software tracks your finger. Jellybean improved responsiveness, but it's still behind iOS. For such a rudimentary task, you'd think Google would be on top of this. Google is more concerned with functions/tech stuff than the user experience.[/QUOTE]
Cant say i agree with any of this. Playstore has 650,000 apps to 700,000 for iPhone so it isnt lacking. I dont think the UI is ugly in Android and really i think you are just really picky about some things that to me arent a big deal. The iPhone isnt perfect by any means so your going off on how Android isnt this or that is meaningless imo.
Cant say i agree with any of this. Playstore has 650,000 apps to 700,000 for iPhone so it isnt lacking. I dont think the UI is ugly in Android and really i think you are just really picky about some things that to me arent a big deal. The iPhone isnt perfect by any means so your going off on how Android isnt this or that is meaningless imo.
Cant say i agree with any of this. Playstore has 650,000 apps to 700,000 for iPhone so it isnt lacking. I dont think the UI is ugly in Android and really i think you are just really picky about some things that to me arent a big deal. The iPhone isnt perfect by any means so your going off on how Android isnt this or that is meaningless imo.[/QUOTE]
My brother is a designer, and there's nothing wrong with keeping an eye out for good design and aesthetics. As for apps, there's so many great music apps I use on iOS that don't exist on Android.
We've reached a point where iOS-devotees must split hairs to demonstrate that iOS is better.
Things like the number of apps that the App Store has over the Play Store (marginal, really). Or things like ads being in apps (trivial. Buy the full version then. Once again, there are choices to capture all walks of life: free with ads or paid without). Or how Android is "less responsive" by milliseconds. This is what it's coming down to? Milliseconds?
Please.
And I say again... if it was the iPhone that had these features while the competition didn't, we'd be singing praises for Apple trying to introduce new ideas and features.
Things like the number of apps that the App Store has over the Play Store (marginal, really). Or things like ads being in apps (trivial. Buy the full version then. Once again, there are choices to capture all walks of life: free with ads or paid without). Or how Android is "less responsive" by milliseconds. This is what it's coming down to? Milliseconds?
Please.
And I say again... if it was the iPhone that had these features while the competition didn't, we'd be singing praises for Apple trying to introduce new ideas and features.