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5K, 6K or 8K: new Asus ProArt monitors
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I should get the monitor delivered today, but I am out of town at work. My Mac mini pro is delayed a few weeks,. I have some out of town recurrent training soon as well, so probably won't take the monitor out of the box for a couple of weeks.
Has anyone seen availability of this monitor outside the United States? Can't see anything for UK or Europe, yet.
Some place called Kit Guru just posted a review - here's the link to the last page (Closing Thoughts). Of particular interest is Page 5, where the review (who is used to using a 2019 iMac) compares it to the 2019 iMac, side-by-side, and discusses the effect of the matte coating vs. the glossy iMac.
In the past I've read that the Apple Studio Display looks very similar to a 27" iMac, and many of us are accustomed to using 27" iMacs (and some will be weighing against the ASD as a purchase option), so this is a good comparison.
In the past I've read that the Apple Studio Display looks very similar to a 27" iMac, and many of us are accustomed to using 27" iMacs (and some will be weighing against the ASD as a purchase option), so this is a good comparison.
Quick question...earlier on, it seemed to me 5K displays tended to be Thunderbolt displays. The 5K ASUS ProArt 27" is not; it's
got USB-C but not Thunderbolt, from what I can tell.
If just used as a monitor, I doubt it matters. If also used as a hub, then bandwidth might matter. Is the lack of Thunderbolt a factor in anyone's decision process?
got USB-C but not Thunderbolt, from what I can tell.
If just used as a monitor, I doubt it matters. If also used as a hub, then bandwidth might matter. Is the lack of Thunderbolt a factor in anyone's decision process?
Apart from the ASD, the only ‘Thunderbolt’ 5K display is the LG Ultrafine display.
All the others are using USB-C alt-mode DP.
Edit: However the newly announced BenQ PD2730S appears to be TB4.
+ I missed out the TB4 Samsung Viewfinity S9.
All the others are using USB-C alt-mode DP.
Edit: However the newly announced BenQ PD2730S appears to be TB4.
+ I missed out the TB4 Samsung Viewfinity S9.
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It has several USB-C ports, from what I get one of them supports Thunderbolt video input, another USB data, another power delivery.
Plus 2 USB A data, one HDMI video input, one Display port video input
From Amazon's site, using 5K resolution (2880, not the ultra-wide option) as a filter result, for 5K Thunderbolt monitors I get:
1.) ASD.
2.) Samsung Viewfinity S9.
3.) LG 27MD5KL-B.
So Samsung has one, too.
I don't think the ASUS ProArt PA27JCV Review has actual Thunderbolt. Most products that do say so loud and clear.
The 5k 27” benq pd273s has Thunderbolt as well. Although I haven’t seen it available yet. It was just announced 2 weeks ago.
A review of the 27" :
www.kitguru.net
ASUS ProArt PA27JCV Review (5K/60Hz Professional Monitor) - KitGuru
While we mainly focus on consumer and gaming-related products from ASUS, the company also has a burg
www.kitguru.net
The recent posts reminded me of an older Samsung S9 vs Studio Display clip. This is to this day, by far, the best review (and ASD comparison) clip I have seen so far.
Ultimately, as with the Asus, matte displays do not have the same text clarity as glossy and colors do not pop as much.
I think Apple knew exactly what they were doing when they made the ASD.
Side note. Does anyone know how the Apple Care + works for ASD, if I go with the annual subscription model (not the initial 3 year at the time of purchase) can I "keep it forever" ?
Ultimately, as with the Asus, matte displays do not have the same text clarity as glossy and colors do not pop as much.
I think Apple knew exactly what they were doing when they made the ASD.
Side note. Does anyone know how the Apple Care + works for ASD, if I go with the annual subscription model (not the initial 3 year at the time of purchase) can I "keep it forever" ?
How are there only 2 6K 32” displays on the market? Is demand really that small or is this a supply chain problem? With so much research pointing out that 32” 4K is awful and a lower resolution than 27” 4K, it’s amazing to me.
Same for me, don't understand either !
Is it because the market is more geared towards gamers looking for high frequencies ?
I am at 27" 4k now, and looking for at least the same PPI but bigger, so 5k 27" doesn't really cut it.
And why no 5k 30"ish at all either ?
Part of the reason for the lack of Retina options is because Windows supports subpixel antialiasing, so non-Retina screens look better than they do on macOS.
I have often heard this but have never seen a good comparison. Is there a comparison video you could recommend?
Regardless, I‘m sure displays with higher resolution (i.e. what Apple calls „retina“) would look better than lower resolution ones on Windows computers, too. So the only plausible explanation is that there is not a big enough market/demand for high-resolution (and hence more expensive) displays.
Actually OS X used to support sub-pixel antialiasing, when they were still shipping Macs with non-Retina displays. Several years after they went all-Retina, they stopped supporting sub-pixel anti-aliasing, meaning that macOS Sequoia actually looks worse on these non-Retina displays than say OS X High Sierra. So, the comparison examples you'll see out there are from way back then. Look for articles and posts from about 5 years ago or so.
Is there a history of ASD breaking? Why would anyone want to keep paying for AC+?
This from asked by the guy who didn't buy AC+ for his iPhone 15 then 2 weeks later slipped and fell on his butt, the 15 was in the rear pocket and totaled. My new 15 has AC+ but I don't think I've learned anything.
This from asked by the guy who didn't buy AC+ for his iPhone 15 then 2 weeks later slipped and fell on his butt, the 15 was in the rear pocket and totaled. My new 15 has AC+ but I don't think I've learned anything.
What is there to learn? Insurance actuaries better at the math involved than I will ever be in this life run the numbers and determine that the Apple Care+ program nets Apple profits, bringing in more money than it pays out. Or at least I imagine it to be so; I doubt Apple is breaking even or taking a loss on AppleCare+.
If financially, vocationally, recreationally and psychologically you can afford to take the 'hit' of a ruined product, the math does not work in favor of getting AC+ (at least that's what I expect).
On the other hand, there are situations where we may not be able to pay the tab, or the pain would be extreme if we did, and insurance makes sense. That's why there's a health insurance industry.
You need to take a look at just what's covered, and whether you'd be stuck with a co-pay if you had a covered repair.
Put another way, if you're not insured, you're self-insured. If you paid for AppleCare+ for all your Apple devices that did not break over the years, would the premiums have covered the cost of your replacement iPhone now?
How would the cost of an Apple Studio Display change that if your's broke?
No, but a $1600 monitor, I’ll pay $50 a year for peace of mind.
I buy AppleCare+ on almost everything and if I priced it out, phones are the only devices I unilaterally have done better on by having AC+ vs not (I broke my iPhone 15 Pro Max twice in 6 months…the AC+ even with the fee for replacement was def cheaper than an official Apple repair), but Mac service issues are expensive. Again, all in, I would save money by not having it over the long haul, but when you do need a repair, it really does come in clutch.
I won’t always keep renewing on the ASD — but A) it potentially helps resale. B) I can expense it as part of my home office budget. And C), I know that Apple would charge me as much as a new display to fix it if it broke. And so 3% a year or so is fine with me.
But to further answer your question, the LG UltraFines did have a history of problems. And given that the guts are similar, I was definitely concerned about the ASD. Nearly 3 years later, that seems to have not come true, but 2022 filmgirl didn’t know that and decided to buy the coverage annually since it was priced the same whether you did 3 at once or individually.
Thanks, makes sense to me. I was not aware of the complex internals of ASD. Just bought a refurb ASD and will add AC when I pick it up.
People already answered your question so yeah. There are some posts on Reddit about ASD having for example the built-in "power brick" die on them and things like that. As history shows Apple rarely updates their displays, more like towards 5-10 year cycles and since they are so damn expensive, $50 per year is really not that bad.
LG 27MD5KL-B (from 2019) actually supports USB-C alt mode DP, but the resolution is limited to 4K. With custom timing it's possible to get 5K @ 39Hz.