5K, 6K or 8K: new Asus ProArt monitors

[drrich2]

The 8K is discussed a bit in this Edge Up Asus page, but I don't see refresh rate noted. DisplaySpecifications.com has a page on a 6K Asus that I presume is the one we're discussing, but I don't see refresh rate noted.

That said, the 8K looks to be targeting more professional users, a high refresh rate at these resolutions would be quite demanding on the interface (to convey it) and computer (to process and support it), and I haven't heard of either of these monitors being marketed for gaming (gaming seems to be a main driver for high refresh rates).

So if I were betting, my money would be on 60-Hz.

 

[lsquare]

I sincerely doubt anyone will be making high res 120hz displays anytime soon. Possibly Apple may be the first next year or so. Only just recently we started to have alternatives to 5k/6k.

I know and I understand. I'm hoping we can get at least a 5K/6K 100+Hz monitor in the near future.

 

[drrich2]

I'm hoping we can get at least a 5K/6K 100+Hz monitor in the near future.

I would like that, too. Thing is, so many people seem happy with 4K at 27" and even content with it at 32", which seems odd to me in light of mixed messages I've gotten.

Put aside the extra GPU overhead of Mac processors in scaling to run non-optimal DPI (~ 220 or 110 dpi) displays, such as 5K at 27". If you're not taxing your Mac often, from what I've read you probably won't notice that. And while some say the Mac's lack of sub pixel anti-aliasing (which Windows has) impacts text rendering at those non-optimal dpi resolutions, opinions are mixed about how 4K versus 5" 27" display text looks - some of us think it's very close and maybe too close to call if you're not eye balling it very close striving to discriminate, and some people think the difference is more evident to them. I have 27" 5K old iMac and a 27" 4K Dell monitor side-by-side right now.

But 4K at 27" seems fine for most people. Apple doesn't even bother to make an 'affordable' (under a grand) 27" standalone display (and only 24" iMacs), so Apple doesn't seem to think the issue is terribly important for their non-professional consumer base.

But what about 4K 32" monitors? Does the text not look a tad fuzzy on those? Do photos and photo-realistic graphics not look a bit softer in focus? I'm asking; I haven't observed such monitors up close for this, much less on a Mac.

So I would think even Windows users would be pushing for 6K 32" displays. Never mind the Mac minority, why aren't Windows users pushing for it? Will Thunderbolt 5 and comparable USB4 open the floodgates of pent-up demand?

In a roundabout way I'm saying the odds of our seeing 6K 32" displays in the consumer space largely depends on the degree to which the customer base sees room for improvement and back desire with money. If the big majority are content with 4K 32" displays, I imagine demand may be lacking.

 

[EugW]

I would like that, too. Thing is, so many people seem happy with 4K at 27" and even content with it at 32", which seems odd to me in light of mixed messages I've gotten.

Put aside the extra GPU overhead of Mac processors in scaling to run non-optimal DPI (~ 220 or 110 dpi) displays, such as 5K at 27". If you're not taxing your Mac often, from what I've read you probably won't notice that. And while some say the Mac's lack of sub pixel anti-aliasing (which Windows has) impacts text rendering at those non-optimal dpi resolutions, opinions are mixed about how 4K versus 5" 27" display text looks - some of us think it's very close and maybe too close to call if you're not eye balling it very close striving to discriminate, and some people think the difference is more evident to them. I have 27" 5K old iMac and a 27" 4K Dell monitor side-by-side right now.

But 4K at 27" seems fine for most people. Apple doesn't even bother to make an 'affordable' (under a grand) 27" standalone display (and only 24" iMacs), so Apple doesn't seem to think the issue is terribly important for their non-professional consumer base.

But what about 4K 32" monitors? Does the text not look a tad fuzzy on those? Do photos and photo-realistic graphics not look a bit softer in focus? I'm asking; I haven't observed such monitors up close for this, much less on a Mac.

So I would think even Windows users would be pushing for 6K 32" displays. Never mind the Mac minority, why aren't Windows users pushing for it? Will Thunderbolt 5 and comparable USB4 open the floodgates of pent-up demand?

In a roundabout way I'm saying the odds of our seeing 6K 32" displays in the consumer space largely depends on the degree to which the customer base sees room for improvement and back desire with money. If the big majority are content with 4K 32" displays, I imagine demand may be lacking.

The thing is, Mac users are a small percentage of the overall market, and the vast majority of Mac users already have a hiDPI screen, in the form of a MacBook Air or MacBook Pro, and even the iMac.

Furthermore, the midDPI screens that are so common out there actually look fine on Windows, considerably nicer on Windows than on macOS.

And of course midDPI screens are much, much cheaper than hiDPI screens.

Basically this is driven by cost and what Windows users want and need.

 

[drrich2]

Basically this is driven by cost and what Windows users want and need.

Furthermore, the midDPI screens that are so common out there actually look fine on Windows, considerably nicer on Windows than on macOS.

And of course midDPI screens are much, much cheaper than hiDPI screens.

In that case, the demand for high res. + high refresh rate displays is apt to be poor given that Macs are infamously seen as 'not serious gaming machines.' The gaming machines are Windows PCs and console systems.

And given that Apple didn't bother to include HDMI or DisplayPort connections in its Apple Studio Display, it doesn't seem they care to entertain those markets. So we may get more high-res., yes, but not so much high refresh rates.

Anyone on this thread using a 32" 4K monitor on a Windows PC and/or gaming console? Is the text and picture clarity lacking, soft, etc...? Do you see anything that'd make you crave a 6K 32" display for Windows or a console?

Oh, and can current PlayStations and Xboxes drive a 6K display at 120-Hz?

 

[PaulD-UK]

The recent rumour is that Apple is developing 90Hz displays for multiple product lines...

Apple may be developing 90Hz display technology for these products - Times of India

MOBILES & TABLETS News: Whispers in the tech world suggest Apple is preparing to give its iPad Air, 24-inch iMac, and Studio Display a visual refresh. The rumour mill, fueled

timesofindia.indiatimes.com

 

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Oh, and can current PlayStations and Xboxes drive a 6K display at 120-Hz?

Nope. BTW I play games on a PC and XDR connected to it. 4K if possible, mostly 2.5K (this looks ugly actually...). Even 4K@60 is still difficult to handle for the most graphic cards.