Windows 7 is hands down the best Windows OS ever. I've tested it and I already have it installed on my MacBook Air. I like it but at the end of the day, I go back to Mac OS X because it's just that much better in my opinion. I'd like to hear your opinions of Windows 7 in a month, see if you still love it as much.
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** A Mac fan is stunned - Windows 7 **
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i just started using windows seven a month ago and i love it.
i still prefer OS X on my macbook pro. but that is not so much OS X alone. it is more the fact that all programs adhere to a more unified user experience. in windows you still have various programs using different ways to do things. also my MBP is much better hardware than my windows notebook. that makes me percieve OS X faster than Windows 7 although it may not be true.
the main drawback of windows is still the risk of getting viruses.
but all in all Apple has a tough time ahead to convince people to switch because the difference between the systems is not so big anymore.
I shouldn't need to use the command line, nor a 3rd party app, just to uninstall a program. Last night, I installed Visual Studio and created a program that displayed a picture. It's really a lame program, but it was my first try. Anyway, it installed, put the appropriate entries into my start menu and add/remove programs. When I uninstalled it, it removed itself, entirely.
Which got me thinking, perhaps those programs that don't unistall themselves entirely are just bad programs, and it's not a windows issue, but a developer issue. I thought some more. Have you ever installed Picasa on your mac? the uninstall is horrible, it leaves Google Updater on the HDD, which then keeps downloading Picasa because it determines that there's a newer version then the non-existent one on your hard drive. My tangent's point is that Windows 7 is a very good OS, and you can't say Windows is bad because of the programs you install on it, when OS X can't handle badly made programs either.
It has nothing with being cheep. Windows 7 comes with a better back up solution, plain and simple. Stop making excuses for Apple's misgivings, especially when there's such a premium for using it.
Kind of depends on your needs really. I'm not a big fan of TM and don't use it myself because it doesn't do what I need it to do and that is make network-based bootable clones. Of course, neither does Windows BU. The one thing I would have used Windows BU for I can't because they removed network backups from Home Premium so both are subpar for me really. There are plenty of free 3rd party tools for both OSs to do what I want, however.
Yes, it is the developer's problem if their uninstaller is crappy.
But really, if you know what you are doing you can track anything on your filesystem in OS X down via the Unix 'find' command and it's various options.
As to your program, did you check to see if it put anything in the Registry, and if so, if said information was duly removed?
I wouldn't touch Picasa with a ten-foot pole. I've heard that it can be hard to completely remove.
I've liked using Windows 7 on a PC I recently bought for a family member, but when I tried to set up the label printer connected to my Airport Extreme, I couldn't. I used Bonjour and it said it worked, but it just wouldn't. Definitely odd and just one of the reasons why I am staying with OS X, at least with my desktop.
But really, if you know what you are doing you can track anything on your machine in Windows down via the Registry 'search' command and it's various options.
If you're going to compare and contrast the two OS's - then surely you have to apply 'if you know what you are doing' to both platforms?
I think Windows 7 is an excellent OS, certainly the best Windows ever. It just doesn't do what I require it to do, i.e. audio recording apps, coupled with day to day IT stuff of managing a mixed environment.
I recommend it to people though, even encouraging people with 2 or 3 year old Windows XP machines to upgrade, due to feature set as well as (more importantly) security.
At work I'm on an MBP 15" logging into Linux and Windows boxes simultaneously, as well as having a support client up and running. OS X's workflow works well for me in that regard.
At home I'm either on my MBP 13" or a Ubuntu Linux 9.10 box. It really all comes down to personal preference, really. I love Logic and iLife, and really like Aperature too. Obviously my choice is somewhat made there, and it's not like I haven't tried many equivalents on the Windows side.
I don't see OS X vs. Windows as being the discrepancy it once was in the XP or earlier days.
I recommend it to people though, even encouraging people with 2 or 3 year old Windows XP machines to upgrade, due to feature set as well as (more importantly) security.
At work I'm on an MBP 15" logging into Linux and Windows boxes simultaneously, as well as having a support client up and running. OS X's workflow works well for me in that regard.
At home I'm either on my MBP 13" or a Ubuntu Linux 9.10 box. It really all comes down to personal preference, really. I love Logic and iLife, and really like Aperature too. Obviously my choice is somewhat made there, and it's not like I haven't tried many equivalents on the Windows side.
I don't see OS X vs. Windows as being the discrepancy it once was in the XP or earlier days.
I use both platforms, daily. If I were a Windows Fanboy - why the hell would I have a Macbook, and old MBP, my other half have my first MB, a time capsule, an iPhone....... need I go on? Seriously.
I really can not understand it. I try and get a little reality, a little bit of 'fairness' into comparisons - and I'm a Windows Fanboy. That, to be honest, is typical of the corrupt standards in this place.
The only thing stopping me from using Windows is the odd interface on the start menus and the stupid registry. I don't enjoy reinstalling my whole operating system once every 8 months because some idiot wrote a bad uninstaller for a program that leaves dead strings in the registry to slow my PC to a crawl >.<
That being said I never had a problem with viruses. And Windows 7 sure is pretty... but to me, its still a lot of Windows XP and previous versions underneath. The registry just never made sense to me... and seeing as its almost 2010... it REALLY doesn't make sense anymore >.<
That being said I never had a problem with viruses. And Windows 7 sure is pretty... but to me, its still a lot of Windows XP and previous versions underneath. The registry just never made sense to me... and seeing as its almost 2010... it REALLY doesn't make sense anymore >.<
I use both platforms, daily. If I were a Windows Fanboy - why the hell would I have a Macbook, and old MBP, my other half have my first MB, a time capsule, an iPhone....... need I go on? Seriously.
I really can not understand it. I try and get a little reality, a little bit of 'fairness' into comparisons - and I'm a Windows Fanboy. That, to be honest, is typical of the corrupt standards in this place.
Apparently, your definition of 'fairness' and 'reality' differs from most people's. All I've ever seen you do is complain, complain, and COMPLAIN some more about everything Apple does. That comes across more as *cough cough* trolling than being 'fair'.
So if I, as an Apple customer, find something I don't like, I should just shut up - and if I see people in this place lying about Windows, I should just let it go. And if I see duality of standards being exercised, I shouldn't say a damn thing, right?
Sorry - not going to happen. Feel free to use the forum ignore feature if you're incapable of just not reading my posts.
Sorry - not going to happen. Feel free to use the forum ignore feature if you're incapable of just not reading my posts.
Who actually cares for this thread anymore? Yes... we can all accept, Windows 7 is very good for Microsoft, it has some good themes, some good desktop wallpapers and it is stable. But Ubuntu is all of them and it is free.
Honestly, the OP can move to Win7 cos of it's good looks and all the psychological BS... I've used it... and despite it being good, it is still windows. It still has UAC, it still demands antivirus software and don't even get me started on how confusing the control panel is.
I'm sure when OS X 10.7 is released, the OP will come crawling back Mac.
Honestly, the OP can move to Win7 cos of it's good looks and all the psychological BS... I've used it... and despite it being good, it is still windows. It still has UAC, it still demands antivirus software and don't even get me started on how confusing the control panel is.
I'm sure when OS X 10.7 is released, the OP will come crawling back Mac.
You better not be calling me a troll for just talking about the registry. Everyone who knows something about computers knows its true.
I moved from a MacBook Air and Powerbook 12" over to a refurbed Vaio TZ last year because I needed the battery life and lighter weight. The amount of hardware choice just isn't enough with Macs... it's either full-size notebook, or the very expensive and rather limited MBA. The TZ offered great battery life, an amazing screen, ridiculously low weight, SSD+HDD dual drives, and lots of other perks for a price similar to an entry level MB.
I wasn't a big fan of Vista so I was a bit unsure of the decision at first. There were lots of times I wished for the efficient workflow that OSX allowed me. Windows 7 has filled in many of the gaps and has made me a happy PC user for at least the near future. I've also found lots to like about Office 2010, Visio, and lots of other applications in the MS ecosystem.
In a few years, when the Vaio dies, I'll look at what's available and re-evaluate.
I wasn't a big fan of Vista so I was a bit unsure of the decision at first. There were lots of times I wished for the efficient workflow that OSX allowed me. Windows 7 has filled in many of the gaps and has made me a happy PC user for at least the near future. I've also found lots to like about Office 2010, Visio, and lots of other applications in the MS ecosystem.
In a few years, when the Vaio dies, I'll look at what's available and re-evaluate.
Gah, an Ubu friendly.
Let me just say this, ANYTHING that uses Gnome looks like its made for mattel. You CANT compare, you just cant.
Mac OS X has UAC. Unix has always had UAC. Windows UAC is the equivalent of asking you for your root level password to allow tasks that a general user doesn't have to do most of the time.
In Vista it was set to a rediculous level where most day to day tasks were asking for authorisation.
In 7 it has been brought down to a much more sensible level, and if that is still too much for you, it does allow you to tweak it.
The control panel is fine, not as clear as system preferences in any version of OS X but simple enough to use, and MS Security Essentials does an excellent job as an AV, is free and probably uses the least system resources of any AV on any platform.
There are some things I still dislike about 7 (the registry for one - seriously MS it was fine for 3.1 but should have been dumped with Win 98)
In short tho, MS have hit a 4 instead of a single. OS X still hits a 6 every time IMO.
I use both platforms, daily. If I were a Windows Fanboy - why the hell would I have a Macbook, and old MBP, my other half have my first MB, a time capsule, an iPhone....... need I go on? Seriously.
I really can not understand it. I try and get a little reality, a little bit of 'fairness' into comparisons - and I'm a Windows Fanboy. That, to be honest, is typical of the corrupt standards in this place.
Dude you've never said one positive thing about Apple since joining this forum, your bias is apparent. No need hiding it.
Do we need a discussion on what bias is? Everyone is bias... that's ridiculous to base an argument on the fact that someone holds some biases. At least attack their credentials.
