Some of this propaganda on Windows 7 is just laughable. 30 to 40 percent more work, really?
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** A Mac fan is stunned - Windows 7 **
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Some of this propaganda on Windows 7 is just laughable. 30 to 40 percent more work, really?
For me, in some cases, it's 100%. 3DS Max + Vray isn't availabel for OS X, nor is quad core workstation class processing power for <£1000.
Let's repeat this in the hope that SOMEONE might get it..
NEITHER IS BEST
NEITHER IS BETTER
THEY'RE DIFFERENT
SOME PEOPLE PREFER ONE
SOME PEOPLE PREFER THE OTHER
MANY PEOPLE USE BOTH
Someone once posted if Apple is a religion. I'm beginning to think they were right.
Let's repeat this in the hope that SOMEONE might get it..
NEITHER IS BEST
NEITHER IS BETTER
THEY'RE DIFFERENT
SOME PEOPLE PREFER ONE
SOME PEOPLE PREFER THE OTHER
MANY PEOPLE USE BOTH
Someone once posted if Apple is a religion. I'm beginning to think they were right.
One has to be better for people to prefer it..
And of course, which is better, is what you like, how you expect the OS to act.
So yeah.. Windows v OS X debates are so old and boring..
can't... stop... myself...
OK, so I was bored, (very bored, lol). I read through the honorable "sir" Joe's dreck/propaganda. I also read through quite a few of his other "pieces" as well. I don't buy what he is selling... that Mac users should switch over to W7 over Snow Leopard (and will).
When "sir joe" claimed that..."I find myself to be way more productive using Windows 7 than any Mac OS X version, and that's surprising to me. For years, the greater productivity claim belonged to Mac OS X. Consistently, I get about 30 percent to 40 percent more work done using Windows 7 than either Leopard or Snow Leopard." I knew he was also smoking blunts. Especially when he claims his biggest opposition is the lack of bling of the interface (what, no flying turtles??).
He babbles on..."The Mac OS X user interface, once trendsetting, is now a tired motif overdue for overhaul."... he laments that "for now, Snow Leopard offers few benefits where users can see them...", but oddly admits that...."From an architectural perspective, however, Snow Leopard is Apple's most important Mac OS X release since the dot-oh release in March 2001. I call Snow Leopard a fix-the-plumbing release, in preparation for moving the Mac install base forward to 64-bit. Performance tweaks are everywhere, and you can feel them in subtle but distinct ways. I predict that Mac OS X 10.7 will be a big release, jumping off Snow Leopard's architectural remodeling"
(also note no references to hidden voices telling anyone to lounge about in hammocks, lol).
MOST Apple users will NOT leave their macs just because M'soft finally released an OS that wasn't a complete disaster. Furthermore... M'soft Admitted (then denied, lol) that OS X was a big inspiration for Windows 7, and that they copied, I mean borrowed its design from Apple. Google it yourself you unbelievers, lol. Good read here: http://theappleblog.com/2009/11/13/microsoft-admits-then-denies-copying-mac-os-x/
Lastly... the PC pundits love to troll around saying that macs only occupy a few percentage points of the market, and that they are content with the other 90%. I submit this chart from a few weeks ago (here). Profitability is in ONLY number that matters. Especially these days.
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In conclusion... "sir joe" is an industry shill, not an unbiased enduser. Most of his readers agree with him (they hate macs too).
There are a few who don't...and they say why, quite well...
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peace, michael
PS: my wife uses a PC laptop for work, and she pretty much hates it. The only one that hates it more... is me, when I have to figure out how to help her out with problems. W7, may LOOK the same in some aspects, but looks are superficial. I can respect that others are happy with their choice of PC over mac. It does not work for me, and probably never well (intolerant?). By controlling both aspects of an end-users experience (hardware AND software), IMO the end experience is better, simpler, and more elegant in terms of real efficiencies. Examine the interface of the iPhone vs most of the others. Be assured that ALL the other cell phone have as well. They laughed at first, and then spent years trying to copy their success (much as microsoft is trying to copy its way to success as well).
OK, so I was bored, (very bored, lol). I read through the honorable "sir" Joe's dreck/propaganda. I also read through quite a few of his other "pieces" as well. I don't buy what he is selling... that Mac users should switch over to W7 over Snow Leopard (and will).
When "sir joe" claimed that..."I find myself to be way more productive using Windows 7 than any Mac OS X version, and that's surprising to me. For years, the greater productivity claim belonged to Mac OS X. Consistently, I get about 30 percent to 40 percent more work done using Windows 7 than either Leopard or Snow Leopard." I knew he was also smoking blunts. Especially when he claims his biggest opposition is the lack of bling of the interface (what, no flying turtles??).
He babbles on..."The Mac OS X user interface, once trendsetting, is now a tired motif overdue for overhaul."... he laments that "for now, Snow Leopard offers few benefits where users can see them...", but oddly admits that...."From an architectural perspective, however, Snow Leopard is Apple's most important Mac OS X release since the dot-oh release in March 2001. I call Snow Leopard a fix-the-plumbing release, in preparation for moving the Mac install base forward to 64-bit. Performance tweaks are everywhere, and you can feel them in subtle but distinct ways. I predict that Mac OS X 10.7 will be a big release, jumping off Snow Leopard's architectural remodeling"
(also note no references to hidden voices telling anyone to lounge about in hammocks, lol).
MOST Apple users will NOT leave their macs just because M'soft finally released an OS that wasn't a complete disaster. Furthermore... M'soft Admitted (then denied, lol) that OS X was a big inspiration for Windows 7, and that they copied, I mean borrowed its design from Apple. Google it yourself you unbelievers, lol. Good read here: http://theappleblog.com/2009/11/13/microsoft-admits-then-denies-copying-mac-os-x/
Lastly... the PC pundits love to troll around saying that macs only occupy a few percentage points of the market, and that they are content with the other 90%. I submit this chart from a few weeks ago (here). Profitability is in ONLY number that matters. Especially these days.
Click for full size - Uploaded with plasq's Skitch
In conclusion... "sir joe" is an industry shill, not an unbiased enduser. Most of his readers agree with him (they hate macs too).
There are a few who don't...and they say why, quite well...
Click for full size - Uploaded with plasq's Skitch
peace, michael
PS: my wife uses a PC laptop for work, and she pretty much hates it. The only one that hates it more... is me, when I have to figure out how to help her out with problems. W7, may LOOK the same in some aspects, but looks are superficial. I can respect that others are happy with their choice of PC over mac. It does not work for me, and probably never well (intolerant?). By controlling both aspects of an end-users experience (hardware AND software), IMO the end experience is better, simpler, and more elegant in terms of real efficiencies. Examine the interface of the iPhone vs most of the others. Be assured that ALL the other cell phone have as well. They laughed at first, and then spent years trying to copy their success (much as microsoft is trying to copy its way to success as well).
You guys do realise that he's trolling, right?
Just thought I'd point that out for the terminally gullible.
Just thought I'd point that out for the terminally gullible.
of course... he did it for the fake take-away... (the headline). "A Mac fan is stunned...". hardly, lol.
I agree...so why then do you act so bloody intolerant towards those who enjoy and use OS X? Your posts reek of a disgusting double standard.
I use OS X. I use it every single day. I'm not 'intolerant' to those who use OS X. I'm intolerant to those who spout nonsense, lies, and misinformation about other platforms. I'm also intolerant to those who paint a whiter than white picture of OS X. It's not perfect - never has been, never will be. It gives Mac users a bad name.
I have to agree with Mark. This seems more like a parody than a user's experience. An entertaining one, no doubt, but I'm dubious. I'm not calling troll here, but what's the point of heading over here and putting up such a post? It wasn't an I like Win7, but someone quits WinXP cold turkey, shifts to Mac, and then suddenly the heavens open up and the angels sing when Win7 comes along?
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I wasn't speaking of the specific car anaolgy used in this thread as often times analogies are misapplied or exaggerated, but more of using the car analogy in general. I understand your break down of the nuances and how the exact same parts are not used etc, etc.... However, in general terms I think a car analogy is a good fit when you look at it from a utilitarian perspective.
The point is the primary purpose of car is to transport you from point A to point B. Will both Car 1 at this price point and Car 2 at a different price point do the same thing? Yes they will. However, some people like the features of one car over the other and are willing to pay a higher price for those features.
The same applies to Mac computers vs. any other brand out there. From a utilitarian perspective similar systems will perform the same operations (email, internet, word processing, etc) and run the same programs. (Adobe, MS Office, etc) But, some people want to pay more for the features of one computer over the other. To each their own.
For me personally, I'm willing to pay for the Mac because it suits my needs and I've had better experiences using them. With cars it's different. I'm not willing to pay for a Lexus, Acura, or an Infinity when I can drive a Toyota, Honda, or Nissan. Other people will swear these higher priced versions are better.
I say all of this to say the car analogy to me is a perfect fit. Not because it's 100% accurate, but because it is on target in describing consumer attitudes.
I agree. The car analogy only sucks when it's used generically (all Macs are Ferraris, all PCs are Yugos). It's quite apt when used specifically (Macbook Pros are BMWs, Sony Vaios are Mercs, Acer Low Cost uints are Fiats).
What kind of moron writes crap like this? I assume he means tea, not yea.?
I guess the post can be summed up as "I'm a douche and I think I must be a stereotype."
You've been here since 2002, yet you haven't figured out you should read the thread before posting. The OP is just posting to get a rise out of you, it was all tongue in cheek. --A joke.
And a damn funny one, considering how you and some others responded.
I guess you're not getting that this was not a rise out of me, but simply stating that douchebags are douchebags. I've been here since 2002 and feel that this is par for the course for the last 4 years ever since the influx of ex-windows users and I'm sick of it. It clouds the forum with debris and noise. And yeah, I read the thread, and I will now call all the serious respondents to the OP the same douche moniker, and those who can't see a non-rise when they see it. Point still stands - only a douche thinks that this is funny.
You're still not getting it. What the OP wrote isn't what's funny. What's funny is how predictable the responses are, including your own response. The OP predicted you, and many others in this thread perfectly and for that I congratulate him.
Guys stop it please, I am going to wet myself, this is just too fu*king funny. I can't decide what funnier, the original poster, and his obvious flamebait, hit tin foil hat nut job theories, or the passion at which zealots defend their choice, and seem oblivious to the total piss take this thread obviously is.
LMAO. Surely it is April fools? No? LOLOL
LMAO. Surely it is April fools? No? LOLOL
You speak like OS X doesn't have those issues. Have you ever tried to uninstall Garage Band from OS X? It's not drag and drop like you would expect. Have you ever tried to use time machine with network backups to DVD (is that even possible)?
I'm going to have to agree with the OP. Because Windows is designed to have maximized windows, there's less distractions to slow your productivity. I like Windows 7 much more then OS X, and after switching back, the only thing I miss after a few months is Final Cut, and the fact that my LCD doesn't have a webcam, where my MBP did
Monkey business
Time Machine network back-ups to DVD??? Dude, pick up a copy of Retrospect. You're trying to use a hammer on a Torx screw.
Although I have serious doubts that the OP was serious, it has been an entertaining thread. Much more entertaining that the typical MACS SUCK!!! flame bait. I'm looking forward to hearing about that research. For me, I found it particularly amusing that Walter Mossberg was claimed to be an Apple employee. Umm, no.
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Time Machine network back-ups to DVD??? Dude, pick up a copy of Retrospect. You're trying to use a hammer on a Torx screw.
Although I have serious doubts that the OP was serious, it has been an entertaining thread. Much more entertaining that the typical MACS SUCK!!! flame bait. I'm looking forward to hearing about that research. For me, I found it particularly amusing that Walter Mossberg was claimed to be an Apple employee. Umm, no.
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No, but for all of the people who tout Time Machine as the be-all end-all of backup solutions, my point is that it, quite frankly, sucks.
As far as Walter Mossberg being an Apple employee, I can't believe anyone would take that as serious. Everyone knows he works for the WSJ, but more importantly, is in Steve Job's pocket. For someone who might as well as be on Apple's payroll to endorse Windows 7 was striking.
True; but the point about OS X (an probably any other flavor of Unix) is that the "other" files are actually intelligible and can be found and understood for what they are. AppZapper or the equivalent can do that work for you, if you don't feel like doing it manually via the command line.
Time Machine is quite good at what it does. I also use CCC and have occasional backups to optical media kept off site. Sorry you're too cheap to bother investing in a back-up solution. TM has worked very well a few times for me. Once when saving an error and a second time when MS Word's library was corrupted. Rather than trying to figure out the problem, a simple restoration did the trick.
As for Mossberg, snide ad hominem attacks are cheap. Wake me up when you have a byline in the Missoula weekly.
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