All jokes aside, what would be a reason to get the iPhone 7 Plus over the Note 7?

[First Post G]

Lots of Google/Samsung employees on here just dying to get an iPhone customer to switch.

The arguments you all point out "for" Android just don't make any sense to the people that iPhone is marketed to (and Samsung would die to have). These things that you point out that Android can do and iPhone can't just don't matter to the vast majority of high end smart phone buyers. What the iPhone DOES do frankly is better than Android can do. And the Android ecosystem can't compare. Simple as that.

 

[FFR]

Well if you want an unbiased opinion with no hint of venom, look no further folks lol

He just makes things up.

"A made up quote"

- mi7chy

Stylus. The quote was Stylus.

 

[BlueGoldAce]

Lots of Google/Samsung employees on here just dying to get an iPhone customer to switch.

The arguments you all point out "for" Android just don't make any sense to the people that iPhone is marketed to (and Samsung would die to have). These things that you point out that Android can do and iPhone can't just don't matter to the vast majority of high end smart phone buyers. What the iPhone DOES do frankly is better than Android can do. And the Android ecosystem can't compare. Simple as that.

Preorder a ip7 plus last night. Switching from the note 7.

But I disagree with, and your argument seems highly biased.

Android does do more. A great example is its ability to sync notifications, calls, text, etc with an ecosystem. You don't have to be isolated in the Apple ecosystem to get that kind of continuity.

Also, what does the iphone do better, really? The only thing I can think of is the battery life of the plus mod, which is outstanding.

Nexus devices are just as smooth and fluid. There are android phones that have better camera, faster charging, etc, etc. The app situation of Android is nearly as good as it is in the app store, this day and age. You can name specific apps, but android users have apps that perform better on their platform.

The ip7 is just a really well rounded device, and that is its biggest strength. But there are android devices, like the nexus 6p, that is just as well rounded.

It's simply a user interface choice. One platform isn't necessarily better than the other at this point.

Plus.... I doubt Google really cares which phone you use. Google make there money off of their services, with Google search, Gmail, etc being their biggest money makers. Android, iPhone, and windows users overwhelming you Google services. So I doubt they really care.

The recall caused me to preorder the ip7 plus. With the rumors of the FAA banning it from flights, I can't take that risk. The note 7 is a great device.

That being said I am excited for my ip7 plus to arrive. I am also eager to see what Google pixel line of phones offer, though I imagine I'll stick with ios for the time being.

 

[spinedoc77]

so, split screen and sharing from any app (whatever that means)...i still don't see what you're doing on android that's so much better than iOS. split screen is a big deal? on a screen that size? i don't get it
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why can't you tell me what's so much more amazing about the android os than iOS? i'm just looking for simple answers

You said "I don't get it" Yes that's exactly it. I use split screen all the time on my phone, just because you can't fathom it being useful doesn't mean it isn't. I don't mean that to sound argumentative, it's just I get tired of people confusing their own way they use their phone as being universal.

I'll also tell you what is so special about Android, widgets. I can set up my android phone to have a phenomenal amount of information at a glance, without pressing a single button or going into a single app, just right there on the desktop. I find iOS wall of icons very daunting, they have improved much with their implantation of widgets, but it still is not even in the same league as android.

Beyond that yes customization is important for some of us. Changing themes, icons, having a dark mode, etc shouldn't even be a question in today's age. Heck Apple spends loads of resources just making new emojis, but then people say they shouldn't spend any resources on a dark mode or allowing custom themes.
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Can you guys stop saying LOCKED ECOSYSTEM for ****'s sake? The damn iPhone 7 comes with an adaptor so you can use wired headphones forever.

In terms of hardware it is locked since the lightning port is proprietary. I have zero use for wired headphones in my life, but I still feel bad for those that spend the money on lightning headphones that only work on Apple devices. Yeah they have the dongle, but I would hate having to carry that dongle around or having it hanging off my iPhone or getting in the way in my pocket.
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Lots of Google/Samsung employees on here just dying to get an iPhone customer to switch.

The arguments you all point out "for" Android just don't make any sense to the people that iPhone is marketed to (and Samsung would die to have). These things that you point out that Android can do and iPhone can't just don't matter to the vast majority of high end smart phone buyers. What the iPhone DOES do frankly is better than Android can do. And the Android ecosystem can't compare. Simple as that.

Stats? Sources? Who do you think the iPhone is marketed to? I preordered 2 iphones yesterday, yet I find Android is a superior OS in many ways. I have my reasons which I've shared before, both platforms have their pros and cons, and those pros/cons are most likely pretty individual to the way each person uses their phone.

But if all else fails just call all the dissenters "Google/Samsung employees" lol. Didn't you know, every single one of us are google/Samsung employees.

 

[kasakka]

what do you wish you could customize in iOS?

Oh boy what wouldn't I. Ability to choose default apps for one. Being able to set how many icons are on my home screen (for example the iPad has far too few). Ability to choose what apps to show in the tray that pops out the bottom. Have multi-window on iPhone. Ability to turn off those damn "turn on Wifi for better accuracy" messages. Just off the top of my head.

While both iOS and Android are better these days, in their stock form they could use a lot more customizability, usually to correct small annoyances. I prefer to have CyanogenMod on my Android phones because it offers the customization options I want while many OEM ROMs might not.

 

[pixel_junkie]

... having a dark mode ...

There was a rumor about iOS10 coming out with a dark mode and there were some super clean looking concept images of it even (obviously fake). People were going nuts about it, clearly care about it and want it implemented. Yah, that's been around on the Android side for a long while now. Dark mode, light mode and every other color combo your heart desires. It's all small stuff but it adds up.

 

[spinedoc77]

There was a rumor about iOS10 coming out with a dark mode and there were some super clean looking concept images of it even (obviously fake). People were going nuts about it, clearly care about it and want it implemented. Yah, that's been around on the Android side for a long while now. Dark mode, light mode and every other color combo your heart desires. It's all small stuff but it adds up.

I thought some of those rumors were based on actual code found in pre beta software? Personally I think Apple is indeed playing around with this and will eventually release it. It's insanity to me to think that we should be using a blinding white on off white phone in the dark.

 

[First Post G]

Preorder a ip7 plus last night. Switching from the note 7.

But I disagree with, and your argument seems highly biased.

Android does do more. A great example is its ability to sync notifications, calls, text, etc with an ecosystem. You don't have to be isolated in the Apple ecosystem to get that kind of continuity.

Also, what does the iphone do better, really? The only thing I can think of is the battery life of the plus mod, which is outstanding.

Nexus devices are just as smooth and fluid. There are android phones that have better camera, faster charging, etc, etc. The app situation of Android is nearly as good as it is in the app store, this day and age. You can name specific apps, but android users have apps that perform better on their platform.

The ip7 is just a really well rounded device, and that is its biggest strength. But there are android devices, like the nexus 6p, that is just as well rounded.

It's simply a user interface choice. One platform isn't necessarily better than the other at this point.

Plus.... I doubt Google really cares which phone you use. Google make there money off of their services, with Google search, Gmail, etc being their biggest money makers. Android, iPhone, and windows users overwhelming you Google services. So I doubt they really care.

The recall caused me to preorder the ip7 plus. With the rumors of the FAA banning it from flights, I can't take that risk. The note 7 is a great device.

That being said I am excited for my ip7 plus to arrive. I am also eager to see what Google pixel line of phones offer, though I imagine I'll stick with ios for the time being.

You said "I don't get it" Yes that's exactly it. I use split screen all the time on my phone, just because you can't fathom it being useful doesn't mean it isn't. I don't mean that to sound argumentative, it's just I get tired of people confusing their own way they use their phone as being universal.

I'll also tell you what is so special about Android, widgets. I can set up my android phone to have a phenomenal amount of information at a glance, without pressing a single button or going into a single app, just right there on the desktop. I find iOS wall of icons very daunting, they have improved much with their implantation of widgets, but it still is not even in the same league as android.

Beyond that yes customization is important for some of us. Changing themes, icons, having a dark mode, etc shouldn't even be a question in today's age. Heck Apple spends loads of resources just making new emojis, but then people say they shouldn't spend any resources on a dark mode or allowing custom themes.
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In terms of hardware it is locked since the lightning port is proprietary. I have zero use for wired headphones in my life, but I still feel bad for those that spend the money on lightning headphones that only work on Apple devices. Yeah they have the dongle, but I would hate having to carry that dongle around or having it hanging off my iPhone or getting in the way in my pocket.
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Stats? Sources? Who do you think the iPhone is marketed to? I preordered 2 iphones yesterday, yet I find Android is a superior OS in many ways. I have my reasons which I've shared before, both platforms have their pros and cons, and those pros/cons are most likely pretty individual to the way each person uses their phone.

But if all else fails just call all the dissenters "Google/Samsung employees" lol. Didn't you know, every single one of us are google/Samsung employees.

Stats? Sources? - Look no further than ALL PUBLICLY AVAILABLE MARKET SHARE AND PROFITABILITY STATS. At the end of the day, I think BlueGoldAce actually made my point perfectly, amid all other BS in their post. iPhone is more well rounded overall, and as such is a superior phone experience. There are a few things that Android can do that iPhone can't, but they don't matter enough in the overall scheme, as evidenced by the fact that the vast majority of people that want to spend lots of money on a great phone don't choose Android. That's why Apple makes over 95% of the profits in the industry. FACT.

 

[lowendlinux]

And there we have an actually decent Android v iOS debate ended.

 

[BlueGoldAce]

Stats? Sources? - Look no further than ALL PUBLICLY AVAILABLE MARKET SHARE AND PROFITABILITY STATS. At the end of the day, I think BlueGoldAce actually made my point perfectly, amid all other BS in their post. iPhone is more well rounded overall, and as such is a superior phone experience. There are a few things that Android can do that iPhone can't, but they don't matter enough in the overall scheme, as evidenced by the fact that the vast majority of people that want to spend lots of money on a great phone don't choose Android. That's why Apple makes over 95% of the profits in the industry. FACT.

I made your point in my bs post? What is bs? Go ahead, I'll listen....

 

[mi7chy]

I doubt any smart consumer would bring up the profit argument. I know I would never grab my ankles and proclaim I just bought a new car and made my car dealership and/or manufacturer overly profitable. Smart consumers usually celebrate about paying below invoice but if you want to be a comedian and entertain people feel free to go on sites like Fat Wallet. I'm sure you'll get a ton of laughs because they're so smart that saving money isn't enough since they make money off of companies without spending money.

 

[cwosigns]

For people who have used smart phones for a long while like me, I think it largely comes down to which ecosystem you're invested in. I'm heavily invested in the Apple ecosystem (iPad Pro, iPad Air 2, iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone 6 Plus, MacBook, Apple TV, Apple Watch). Since I got the first iPhone, I have ventured over to Android only once or twice, and each time there was a deal breaker for me that pushed my back to iPhone. Battery life. App quality. Stability. The degree of ease with which it integrated into my digital life. When everything I have is Apple, I rarely have to work hard to get things to work as I expect them to.

Apple isn't perfect, and I love the screen quality of the most recent Samsung phones. But in the end, it isn't enough to sway me to Android. Apple products work better for me.

 

[pixel_junkie]

That's why Apple makes over 95% of the profits in the industry. FACT.

Except that it doesn't. It's about 75% Android to 20% iOS worldwide (and about 5% for the rest). Ignorant to the bone ...

 

[cwosigns]

Except that it doesn't. It's about 75% Android to 20% iOS worldwide (and about 5% for the rest). Ignorant to the bone ...

No. I think you're confusing market share to profit margins. Apple most definitely leads in profit margins.

http://appleinsider.com/articles/15...its-selling-just-145-percent-of-total-volumes

We'll give you a minute to edit out that "ignorant to the bone" comment, lest we have a pot/kettle thing going on.

 

[First Post G]

Fact check buddy. Apple has over 95% of the profits. Well known fact. You're thinking market share.

I don't care anymore. It's all subjective in the end. There are things you find important that don't matter to me or other iPhone owners. Things like wireless charging don't matter when you need to travel with an inconvenient charging mat...it's not real wireless. I'll take ecosystem, camera, security, speed, and services any day. Again, all subjective and depends on what you value. I'm out.

 

[Roadstar]

Isn't the note recall directly related to using third party USB c cables?

No, it's a problem with faulty batteries manufactured by Samsung SDI. They'll blow up just the same regardless of the cable you use.

What comes to actual reasons, these things are making me go the Note 7 route:

• Mobile payments. I've lost all faith in Apple Pay ever making it to Finland while my bank has a nice app that does also mobile payments on Android.
• NFC. In addition to actual payments, there are useful NFC apps I use on my Nexus 5X while the NFC chip in my 6s continues to sit useless at the mercy of Apple. At this point I have zero confidence in ever getting a chance to use the functionality in my 6s, let alone my Apple Watch.
• Voice control. Siri is unfortunately still a sad joke and while I was hoping that the API would solve at least some of its shortcomings, Apple decided to rule out media apps from the API, so I still won't be able to voice control my music and podcasts without changing the apps I use for them to the Apple variants.
• The ever-raising Euro prices. 850€ for the Note 7 seems expensive at the first glance, but now when the iPhone 7 prices have been revealed it's starting to feel like a budget phone with the iPhone 7 getting yet another price hike over here. Even though I'll be getting my Note 7 for free (it'll count as in income in my taxation, though) as I won one in a promotion, I could be going for the Note 7 for the simple reason that iPhones have become ridiculously overpriced here especially when considering that we don't get the full feature set.
• Headphone jack. While I own two different Bluetooth headsets I'm happy with, I still run into occasions where I'd need to connect my phone to a sound system that not-so-surprisingly uses a 3.5mm jack. As the adapter wouldn't be needed regularly, it's all too likely that I won't have it with me when I'd actually need it at a band practise or a party.

If and when I go with the Note 7, the thing I'll miss the most will be my Apple Watch. Too bad it can't be like Android Wear that can pair also with iOS devices albeit with a limited functionality compared to pairing with an Android.

 

[Vegastouch]

so, split screen and sharing from any app (whatever that means)...i still don't see what you're doing on android that's so much better than iOS. split screen is a big deal? on a screen that size? i don't get it

Of course you don't get it because obviously you have never tried it. It's why when I say when Apple users Finally get some of these things, it's the greatest thing ever when before, like you now, they say it isn't a big deal.

You don't need a big screen to check an email while texting on a split screen and you can make the second screen as big or as small as you want. Its very useful.
I don't care what you use but don't dismiss something you haven't tried. IOS is very vanilla compared to Android but no I don't use everything it can do.

 

[First Post G]

Of course you don't get it because obviously you have never tried it. It's why when I say when Apple users Finally get some of these things, it's the greatest thing ever when before, like you now, they say it isn't a big deal.

You don't need a big screen to check an email while texting on a split screen and you can make the second screen as big or as small as you want. Its very useful.
I don't care what you use but don't dismiss something you haven't tried. IOS is very vanilla compared to Android but no I don't use everything it can do.

Don't assume that feature matters to somebody, whether they have tried it or not.

 

[Vegastouch]

Don't assume that feature matters to somebody, whether they have tried it or not.

Agree, but clearly he had never used it or many other things and said he didn't get it. Again, I don't use everything Android is capable of. Some of it I don't care about like wireless charging when I have a fast charging cable. I don't have a desk job so I can't just sit it on a cradle whenever I want.

 

[Vegastouch]

Fact check buddy. Apple has over 95% of the profits. Well known fact. You're thinking market share.

I don't care anymore. It's all subjective in the end. There are things you find important that don't matter to me or other iPhone owners. Things like wireless charging don't matter when you need to travel with an inconvenient charging mat...it's not real wireless. I'll take ecosystem, camera, security, speed, and services any day. Again, all subjective and depends on what you value. I'm out.

Don't know why that is a good thing for us. It just means they are overcharging you for their stuff and making a killing while other brands are more reasonable. Don't think id brag about getting screwed for an inferior product.

 

[First Post G]

Don't know why that is a good thing for us. It just means they are overcharging you for their stuff and making a killing while other brands are more reasonable. Don't think id brag about getting screwed for an inferior product.

I'm not overpaying for anything. I feel iPhone is way superior. And the Note is more expensive while delivering an inferior product. And one that could kill you.

 

[HBOC]

its funny reading these comments. people get offended, as if they personally had a direct hand in the development of either brand. get what works for YOU.

99% of the people using smartphones don't use it the way i do, but i don't get all up in arms....

 

[First Post G]

its funny reading these comments. people get offended, as if they personally had a direct hand in the development of either brand. get what works for YOU.

99% of the people using smartphones don't use it the way i do, but i don't get all up in arms....

I agree

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

Lots of Google/Samsung employees on here just dying to get an iPhone customer to switch.

The arguments you all point out "for" Android just don't make any sense to the people that iPhone is marketed to (and Samsung would die to have). These things that you point out that Android can do and iPhone can't just don't matter to the vast majority of high end smart phone buyers. What the iPhone DOES do frankly is better than Android can do. And the Android ecosystem can't compare. Simple as that.

That's until iPhone implements Android and Samsung features, then ya'll jump for joy.

 

[rawlus]

From my perspective, if you like Windows, you defend android. If you se Mac, it just makes sense to use iPhone.

Most Mac users in my experience, aren't wrapped up in tuning, customizing, tweaking, skinning, booting, etc... They see these devices largely as a means to an end....

Android has its fans and its target audience, which is fine. I'm not interested, I have not looked at Windows or android as a solution in more than a decade.. I'm just not interested in playing with the OS. My Apple devices operate more like appliances than computers... I don't have to deal with drivers and all that, I don't have to pay for licenses when they update (this is a big bonus over time as I remember the cost of office, windows updates, etc) and I don't have to deal with hardware issues, drivers, incompatibilities, firmware, etc.

For some they enjoy that level of immersion in the guts of their devices. I'm not. I use these devices to make a living and the last thing I want to be dealing with is a problem with the hardware or software becaus that's time I'm not making money or being efficient.

The customization possibilities of android hold no interest to me whatsoever. If anything, it is a detractor.

People who like android are free to continue to use it. This is why we have choices. The debate over who is better is just so silly.