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Other All the "Apple should pull out of Europe" commenters are real quiet now
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That’s partially inaccurate. USB-C is a connector, not a protocol. There’s no reason Lightning couldn’t use the USB 3 or higher protocol. I would even argue it’s a better connector than USB-C. That being said, I do think they will move to a USB-C connector
Bro did you miss the interview a couple days ago. Apple's top execs literally said the iPhone is moving to USB-C. Hence why the thread title since that interview meant Apple can't pull out of Europe like the phone warrers were suggesting
And yet the United States has a significantly larger economy than that of combined Europe or European Union, despite your larger (sans Alaska size) landmass and 1/3—double the additional population (EU vs Europe). It’s easy to twist figures to suit your point even if you aren’t actually making one.
Assuming we are “ignorant” to “just how big the EU is” simply because we recognize the United States as a singularly more important market for American companies VS combined Europe is just more anti American rhetoric from certain members of this site. The American economy is stronger, the average American has greater disposable income. The economic demographics of Europe (or EU) as a whole fall SIGNIFICANTLY short of the American economy. You could cherry pick individual data points from individual EU countries, but that would just be more twisting of the facts.
Apple was never going to pull out of Europe. But it seems like many people in this thread seem to think this singular issue that the EU has forced “progress” on somehow makes them (EU/Europe) more important than apples home market. You know, the one with the strong economy and where they had a strong desire to NOT touch price points. North America accounts for around 40% of net revenue vs 20-25% for Europe. Three countries vs dozens. But please, continue to tell us Americans how “ignorant” North Americans are and that we are the ones with an inflated sense of self worth/importance 🙄😂
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You forgot to mention you won the war and everybody is jealous of you. I think other than that you covered every stereotype I can think ofAnd yet the United States has a significantly larger economy than that of combined Europe or European Union, despite your larger (sans Alaska size) landmass and 1/3—double the additional population (EU vs Europe). It’s easy to twist figures to suit your point even if you aren’t actually making one.
Assuming we are “ignorant” to “just how big the EU is” simply because we recognize the United States as a singularly more important market for American companies VS combined Europe is just more anti American rhetoric from certain members of this site. The American economy is stronger, the average American has greater disposable income. The economic demographics of Europe (or EU) as a whole fall SIGNIFICANTLY short of the American economy. You could cherry pick individual data points from individual EU countries, but that would just be more twisting of the facts.
Apple was never going to pull out of Europe. But it seems like many people in this thread seem to think this singular issue that the EU has forced “progress” on somehow makes them (EU/Europe) more important than apples home market. You know, the one with the strong economy and where they had a strong desire to NOT touch price points. North America accounts for around 40% of net revenue vs 20-25% for Europe. Three countries vs dozens. But please, continue to tell us Americans how “ignorant” North Americans are and that we are the ones with an inflated sense of self worth/importance
.No, we don't. This is a fantasy concocted by tech blog followers that in no way shape or form resonates with the real world.
They are called patents. Check them out along with Apple’s illustrations attached to them.
Apple should have switched the iPhone to USB C years ago - back when they decided it was the next big thing for Macs. When they dropped the audio jack from the iPhone so lots of people had to buy new headphones anyway would have been a good time. Lightning may be slightly nicer mechanically but that will be outweighed by the advantages of a single standard port and 10/20Gbps capability on the higher end iDevices aimed at photo and video. The current situation: USBC on some iPads, Lightning on phone, USBC on Macs but Lightning on Magic peripherals (!?) is a train wreck.
The EU have thrown Apple into the briar patch here: Apple were probably going to go USB-C anyway rather than develop Lightning 2 - and this way they can blame the EU for making you buy new headphones.
That’s why I said I think they will move to usb. We still don’t know the timeline on it just yet. And there’s always the possibility they just go portless (though unlikely imo).
If they say they have to comply that means they ain't going portless. They could've just ignored and diverted, but they didn't.
Not remotely. Again, the fact that tech blog people think it is, is the fantasy. This is so far removed from reality it's almost embarrassing to have to read over and over.
Lol, I'm from Europe and it's the first time I'm hearing these "Apple should pull out of Europe" comments 😄
If somebody doesn't agree with Apple's decisions, there is already a very simple way of demonstrating that - by deciding to not give them their money
If somebody doesn't agree with Apple's decisions, there is already a very simple way of demonstrating that - by deciding to not give them their money
Apple would be crazy to pull out of Europe.
They should pull out of Brazil tho.
For all of the EU citizens that have to buy new cables or around the world… can’t say it’s a money grubbing move by Apple to sell more cables.
And I’m sure the EU has processes in place to deal with the turnover of cables (they don’t).Realistically though, if it were to happen, it wouldn’t affect the products I enjoy outside the EU. Apple, as a company would see a big hole in their revenue numbers from this point forward if that were to happen, but outside the EU, I’d still be going to the same App Store, same Apple Retail Store to buy Apple Products and accessories. And, over time that loss would be baked into the financials and, over time, expected and accounted for. Apple would still be around, would still be making gobs of money and folks in the EU would just have Android phones. And Amazon Fire phones maybe… which are still just Android phones.
Actually, the regulators in the EU have said YES to Fire phones and other Fire devices. Google had a deal where manufacturers of true Android devices were to not make devices using forked Android (Amazon Fire). The regulators have said it was unfair, so if any region is likely to see Fire phones, it’s the EU.
It certainly wouldn’t be the end of the world for those in Europe I quite agree.
Precisely, there’s nothing special about an EU with no Apple products. And there’s nothing remarkable about an Apple that doesn’t sell products in the EU, they’d be down in revenue, but otherwise functionally the same as they are today.
With Apple’s share in the EU market, there’s not even that many citizens, on the whole, that would be put out. And, if they REALLY still wanted Apple products, there would always be the gray market.
Certainly not.
First of all the iPhones inside the US still have a place for a Sim card, it’s just… Empty. Just a piece of plastic where the tray used to be and still is on international models.
USB-C is different, it’s in entirely differently engineered port. Making one with for Europe and one without for the rest of the world is a lot more difficult than simply just having a piece of plastic where something is supposed to be, it’s totally different.
Secondly, Apple just changed the Siri remote and the iPad to USB-C in both Europe and the US, it’s clear where they are headed.
I could see them restricting the iPhones port to 2.0 speeds like the new iPad though, that is something they would do.
U.S. models differ in SIM slot and mmWave antenna, which means different parts and chassis. Chinese models have an entirely different SIM tray. Personally, I think it's down to two options: 1) remove port entirely and rely on MagSafe or 2) accommodate with USB-C.