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Other All These People Said They Had Adapters Already...
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It's definitely nice of them.
Any additional purchases that people would make to get a power adapter they need or headphones they need would certainly be extra profit that wouldn't have been there before (on top of the additional savings that would come from not including and packaging those accessories).
So, Apple gets to decide on something that let's them essentially double dip on benefits while consumers just get the negative impact. Nothing wrong with a company making money, but let's not be naive about it being some magnanimous thing or something other than a purely beneficial decision for them with the burden being shifted on the consumer.
I just can’t believe the complaining about it. You’re buying a 20k-50k car. If you have tires laying around, cool. If not, buy some.
Yeah this is why they're so full of it. Every phone I've sold, the charger goes with it.
I've never bought an aftermarket charger. My Apple chargers and cables would outlive the devices they came with. Eventually when it was time to sell my old iPhones I would sell them with the charger.
You might not believe it but I dare say that the majority of people use the charger their devices come with.
There is a certain logic that seems to make sense. For some consumers, there is no impact and these consumers will use their available chargers and cables, and a win for the environment. For other consumers they might have to purchase a charging brick and/or headset. At least this is discretionary.
I do not believe there is "extra profit" as in keeping the price the same, the margins on the iphone hardware went down and is being offset by the lack of charger and headsets. It also isn't guaranteed Apple will reap any benefit in extra purchases related just to this, as there is a healthy secondary market for MFI accessories.
So at worst, Apple has a net zero with margins (imo). At best, some customers decided to purchase a USB-c charging brick from Apple and Apple gets "extra profit."
If you are buying a 20k-50k car, it is probably new and has some tires from the factory.
We have to offset the environmental costs the chargers and earbuds make because now we’re mining material to make magnets.
This is childish. You can go back and forth with analogies all day. I can’t believe my car doesn’t come with a gas station!
Be a grown up and just deal with the problem. Many people have an adapter. Many people don’t. The latter group should buy one if they need one, not hyperventilate.
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Why can't consumers talk about something that affects them where they get less than before? Should consumers be happy about that? Seems like a rather strange position to take.
That's because if people already have chargers, which most of us do, we also already have cables.
Nothing to see here.
Probably this. I think Apple shouldve just done it but this way it buys some transition time for people and for the tech to mature.
I should’ve said the attempted point was clear.
Analogy fails though since virtually nobody has spare tires and wheels sitting around, plus those come in a wide variety of non-interchangeable sizes, and the cost is hundreds to thousands of dollars.
End of the day, a few folks are up arms over an easily an inexpensively solved issue that doesn’t materially affect a whole lot of folks.
USBA power sources are ubiquitous.
Lightning to USBA cables are nearly so.
The few people with neither can address that easily and inexpensively.
Tempest in a teacup IMHO
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How is the new phone usb-c. Doesn’t it have the same lightning port as previous phones. It’s the cable that has one end usb-c to plug into a usb-c ported power adapter. All my two dozen power adapters that have usb connectors work fine with new phone As the cable ends that plug into phone are lightning. Except for the several real old cables that have the original huge connector.
Why not complain the phone does not come with a case, car mount, desk pedestal, screen protector. After all a $1499 phone should have all these items for that kind of price. All this still begs the question, what am I going to do with all the power adapters I already own? None have ever gone bad, and I can only use but one at a time. Scratches head.........
So the problem isn’t the lack of power brick, but rather apple included a cable.....should have left that out as well.
That would have at least followed the actual presented logic, but wouldn't have addressed the part of it being worse for the consumer.
Well the box for my iPhone 12 is in the top of my wardrobe with the cable unpacked inside. I doubt i’ll ever use it as I don’t have a connector that fits. Seems a waste but they’ll be millions like me no doubt.