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Essential Phone didn't just fine with an LCD. OLED may have helped, but Apple had other reasons to switch to OLED.
[doublepost=1509969697][/doublepost]Perhaps iPhones are more prone to burn ins because of how bright they can get? iPhone X has max brightness more than other phones. Perhaps this is why Samsung doesn't allow it's phones to get so bright?
Just because burn ins are "normal" for an OLED screen doesn't make it acceptable. I've been on these forums reading for 16 years. It baffles me the **** Mac users on this forum justify. This is no different than Apple saying you're holding it wrong on the iPhone 4. Saying your screen will burn in just isn't acceptable. If OLED wasn't ready for their standards, they should have waited.
Of course it's too early to tell if this will be a widespread issue, but it'll be interesting to see how big of an issue burn in will be on on the iPhone X relative to other Samsung panels, and if it's correlated to how bright Apple let's them get.
LCD is why the Essential Phone has that big odd looking bezel at the bottom.
This.
I was wondering how Essential Phone came up with a shaped LCD and minimal bezel, and Apple resorted to OLED. I’ve always had my doubts with OLED.
With Sony’s PS Vita, I held off owning one until they transitioned to LCD with the 2000 model. Would like to think I could still use this phone in 20-30 yrs. (Much like ppl are picking up their 10yr old original iPhones right now and still using them)
Where is your source that says they couldn't fill the bottom because it's an LCD? Are you guys serious right now? OLED is thinner than LCD, that doesn't mean LCD can't go borderless.
I mean seriously guys, have you not seen a Dell XPS 13 of many other laptops or displays?
Do you really think there's a fat LCD "bar" down there on the Essential phone lol? Quit with your FUD. Essential has that space down there for components, not because the LCD. With your logic, the S8 has a bottom bezel because it's OLED too.
Again, OLED makes things easier and thinner, but borderless LCDs exist.. it's not like they require a bumper lol. Quit spreading misinformation. I'm not saying Apple should have gone LCD, I'm just fixing the misinformation out there.
A) you are suggesting that Essential, who worked so hard to make a bezelless display that they ended up with a camera notch, could have removed the bottom bezel but decided not to.
B) show me a photo of an LCD phone with no top or bottom bezel.
Also, the Essential Phone has a higher screen to body ratio than iPhone X (Google it.. about 3% more), despite the bar at the bottom that's wider than iPhones notch.
Do you know why? Because the Essential is even MORE borderless than the iPhone X. iPhone X is nice, but the small border around the OLED is more than the Essentials LCD.
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A) No, I'm not saying that. iPhone's full screen display is not only due to Samsung's OLED, but also Apple's engineering. Do you not get it? It's not just the display, there are other things at play. OLED makes it easier. It's possible with LCDs. What don't you get? You make it sound like it was impossible to make a borderless LCD. It's possible, but maybe it would have been thicker. Maybe it would have had worse battery. Maybe it would have required more work. But impossible lol? I've seen borderless TVS!
B) Great argument. Show me a pink glass iPhone X. Doesn't exist? Must not be possible.
Do you know why? Because the Essential is even MORE borderless than the iPhone X. iPhone X is nice, but the small border around the OLED is more than the Essentials LCD.
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A) No, I'm not saying that. iPhone's full screen display is not only due to Samsung's OLED, but also Apple's engineering. Do you not get it? It's not just the display, there are other things at play. OLED makes it easier. It's possible with LCDs. What don't you get? You make it sound like it was impossible to make a borderless LCD. It's possible, but maybe it would have been thicker. Maybe it would have had worse battery. Maybe it would have required more work. But impossible lol? I've seen borderless TVS!
B) Great argument. Show me a pink glass iPhone X. Doesn't exist? Must not be possible.
They haven't done it because there are other things at play. Sturdyness, thickness, battery life, space. Does an LCD contribute to these things? Sure. Why didn't borderless OLEDs exist until last year? Do you get it? There are other things inhibiting, not just the screen tech.
The Pink Glass iPhone was a shut down to your logic.
To be fair it’s a real issue. Most people confuse image retention (temporary) with burn in (permenant). Happens is plasma forums, as well.
If I didn’t know the difference, I’d also be scared it was permanent.
To the OP, it should go away. I’d suggest returning your phone for another if you’re able, as certain displays can be more prone to retention. Kind of like the panel lottery pertaining to yellow screens.
What's the difference, then? I don't think the average user is going to be able to differentiate enough on the technical end to not just rope burn-in with image retention.
To the consumer, they are one in the same.
I already find IR/burn in on my X as well. In dark ambient and at night in bed, below 20% brightness on gray screens (night mode on some apps, control center pulled over a dark background) I can see faint messiness going on. I'm a photographer, but this type of thing is very hard to catch on camera. I will try again tonight, perhaps.
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The display digitizer, among other things, live in the bottom bezel of the Essential Phone. It doesn't ultimately matter to this conversation at all what the calculated screen to body ratio is. All of the body is crammed down in to one place, therefore not borderless. The LCD digitizer does need to go somewhere.
The border around the iPhone X display? Yeah, it's done because design isn't about spec sheets, it's about how it feels to use. Apple, thankfully, cares more about the experience than it does beating a spec sheet of some low-volume android phone. Same deal for Apple not going after insane resolutions on their displays. Unnecessary past a certain point.
"I've seen borderless TVs!" Yeah, you have, because TVs are absolutely massive by comparison. Low pixel density, no digitizer or touchscreen, totally different technology.
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Hmm who to believe, respected industry experts Displaymate or Internet forums poster “heov”.
I had actually thought about that bottom end as I had reread my post earlier.
The Moto 360 does a good job at minimizing the bezel and being round despite being a “flat tire.” It houses sensors and driver, and is where the lcd “fold over.”
https://www.google.com/amp/s/ventur...-damn-flat-tire-is-here-to-stay-moto-360/amp/
We have a notch that, while populated already, I think can be a potential location for fold over. Integrate the sensors onto the flex and shape it in a way that the speaker grill can still fit through.
I guess I don’t know what I’m looking for as I don’t see anything.