Oh yes. Some developers offer different pricing. Taking PortonVPN, one yes subscription on Android is $74.88, whereas iOS is $99.
This is just one example.
Clearly, by just offering different way of paying, I save $24 dollars for exactly samething.
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Oh yes. Some developers offer different pricing. Taking PortonVPN, one yes subscription on Android is $74.88, whereas iOS is $99.
This is just one example.
Clearly, by just offering different way of paying, I save $24 dollars for exactly samething.
You make it sound like someone actually asked for this besides Tim Sweeney and the other greedy billionaire app developer companies.
Can't wait having to have 7 different stores enabled just to install the same stupid apps on my phone. Not.
I know that, it's exactly my point.
My point is, to get the SDKs I have to enroll in the Developer Program, but also to access iOS/App Store as a business user that wants to offer to end users I have to enroll in the Developer Program. The two are bundled together (and more).
Assuming that the DMA says that I should have free access to iOS/App Store, can Apple "gatekeep" that access behind the Developer Program fee? Maybe I'm not even interested in using the SDK, but I still have to pay for it to access the core services I am supposed to have free access to.
To be clear, I don't know the answer to that question, but I do think it's a fair question.
Competition is good, it may force Apple to improve their app store. Now advertising takes precedence over returning good search results.
Taking the opinion of many here. If shopping only Amazon (or Alibaba if China) is required. No need to use figure out what stores to use or payment method.
The benefit is that iOS users will be able to run Delta without having to maintain a local instsnce of AltServer and having to refresh the app every week
Thanks for proving my point; no one is cooking any books or numbers. Based on Android, most people will not seek out alternative stores. Alt app stores will be more work, and the end could cost small devs money to deal with.
This is the real Apple tax; devs know they can get more off Apple users.
Platform SDKs are not strictly necessary in order to write apps.
But it costs more because Apple is pocketing the difference
Meanwhile the dev of the VPN is getting even LESS than on Android:
$99.99 - 30% = $69.99
So on Android the dev gets $74, on iOS the dev gets $70 and apple gets $30
Apple can just opt to pull out of the EU.
Nobody is holding them back (except all the billions they make there every year even after losing a huge chunk of App Store revenue, if that’s even what’s going to happen).
Apple is free to leave the EU just as EU iOS users can chose to stay in the walled garden and pay Apple’s exorbitant fees.
Surely, Apple would have left by now if this was too much to ask.
Apple will win not lose a single EU iOS user if the App Store is really that great and worth the higher price.
More competition in a market is always best for consumers, technological innovation and society at large.
The EU made a huge mess, they should be embarrassed
Honestly they should, they should have a long time ago instead of dealing with gov nonsense
And your senator will do… what? Threaten to nuke Europe if the European commission proceeds with any form of legal action against apple’s anti-competitve practices? Call Tim personally and order him to cease all export to EU overnight? C’mon now.
For all I care, apple can just leave eu altogether and we’ll see how they go. They got a big hit when the chinese banned iphones in the public sector, they pulled out of russia and if they decide to pull out of europe, they’ll lose another 20% of their sales. Good luck going through with that.
They only need to start being reasonable with their fees and stop bullying devs who decide to not use their store, which they legally can do now. Asking payments for transactions they have no involvment in is extortion by any definition. This is to the commission like a red rag to a bull.
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Just sitting back and watching this unfold. Some begging for the freedom of side loading apps (then watch the price climb to ridiculous amounts per version circa early 2000s), weak insecure code quality as other stores pop up left and right trying to get a piece of the pie, data breaches and all the whining when the marketplace becomes a game of store hopping to find what you are looking for and a roll of the dice as to whether or not it' safe to download. As they said in Ghostbusters... dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria!!! lol
The fact Apple bundles the SDK with the ability to access the iOS system is completely irrelevant as it’s something they choose to do.
In the preamble:
| (57) | If dual roles are used in a manner that prevents alternative service and hardware providers from having access under equal conditions to the same operating system, hardware or software features that are available or used by the gatekeeper in the provision of its own complementary or supporting services or hardware, this could significantly undermine innovation by such alternative providers, as well as choice for end users. The gatekeepers should, therefore, be required to ensure, free of charge, effective interoperability with, and access for the purposes of interoperability to, the same operating system, hardware or software features that are available or used in the provision of its own complementary and supporting services and hardware. Such access can equally be required by software applications related to the relevant services provided together with, or in support of, the core platform service in order to effectively develop and provide functionalities interoperable with those provided by gatekeepers. The aim of the obligations is to allow competing third parties to interconnect through interfaces or similar solutions to the respective features as effectively as the gatekeeper’s own services or hardware. |
More like infringing on copyrights and stealing them and users subscribing to said apps.
Forced competition by government regulations is never good. Its government being Robin Hood.
lol what? When have forced competition by the government been bad?
You’re late with 15 years. They have existed since almost day one
Until a number of the big players decide to jump ship and go with a whole host of alternative app stores in order to avoid the Apple Tax (convenience fee) e.g. Adobe, Microsoft, Spotify, Tidal etc ...
Some of you focus on this too much on this, together with article 6(7).
This part of the DMA deals with interoperability with features also used by the gatekeeper for complementary services. It also only applies to alternate service and hardware providers and not necessarily all business users.
The EU Commission isn't investigating Apple at all when it comes to article 6(7). Not even for the core developer fee.
It would appear that even though a developer doesn’t have to pay to develop the hardware OR the OS, OR market either to the wider marketplace so that the platform gains enough users to make the effort viable, then ship that hardware around the world AND support both returns and iterative improvements to the hardware and the software, there are costs involved with simply operating an App Store?
Why are we just finding out about this now?