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viskon

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• I had to install an anti-virus. Otherwise, the phone would just get viruses via bluetooth. Just like we humans get viruses being exposed to the air, so does Android.
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This one made me LOL.

Seriously, you shouldn't be downloading stuff from shady places.
 
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skaertus

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This one made me LOL.

Seriously, you shouldn't be downloading stuff from shady places.

I was not. The phone got a virus by itself, just because the bluetooth was on and the option to download only from the app store was disabled.
 

Cyborg21

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Do not just quote a little piece of post to try to make post wrong, read my FULL post. I said Google play has more apps than AppStore on paper but if you remove scam, virus and low-quality apps from Play Store, it has only 1/4 apps of appstore. Read FULL post then comment.
 
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daveathall

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Do not just quote a little piece of post to try to make post wrong, read my FULL post. I said Google play has more apps than AppStore on paper but if you remove scam, virus and low-quality apps from Play Store, it has only 1/4 apps of appstore. Read FULL post then comment..

No that is not what you posted. Do you understand what you even typed? Can you even remember what you typed, before answering with the above you should have gone back and read (and understood) what you posted.

Here is your full post, perhaps you don't understand what you typed.

I am not talking about downloading stupid Apps or getting viruses. I am talking about Google Play Store doesn't have so many good apps. Most Apps in AppStore is safe and high-quality but Google Play is not so good. Play Store has 1/4 of apps that AppStore got.

Have you got that?

No matter, it is still wrong. Period.
 

Cyborg21

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No that is not what you posted. Do you understand what you even typed? Can you even remember what you typed, before answering with the above you should have gone back and read (and understood) what you posted.

Here is your full post, perhaps you don't understand what you typed.



Have you got that?

No matter, it is still wrong. Period.

Oops sorry I realised I forgot typink ''Good'' :D. I have iPhone 4S and Galaxy S4 and I can clearly see most GOOD apps are AppStore-only. Some iOS apps are avabile on google play but developers removes some features. Simple example: Vine App. iOS version of Vine is much better. It is more smooth, has some more features etc. Google Play Store's apps are usually junk. Google don't care about quality of Android Apps.
 
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mib1800

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Oops sorry I realised I forgot typink ''Good'' :D. I have iPhone 4S and Galaxy S4 and I can clearly see most GOOD apps are AppStore-only. Some iOS apps are avabile on google play but developers removes some features. Simple example: Vine App. iOS version of Vine is much better. It is more smooth, has some more features etc. Google Play Store's apps are usually junk. Google don't care about quality of Android Apps.

Dropbox, Google apps and most of the mainstream apps that are essential to your everyday use are better on android.

So who cares about which store got more junks. What's more important is those essential apps which we depended on everyday are much better on android.

Talking about junk I bet there are many folds more fart apps in the app store than Google play.
 
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Cyborg21

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Dropbox, Google apps and most of the mainstream apps that are essential to your everyday use are better on android.

So who cares about which store got more junks. What's more important is those essential apps which we depended on everyday are much better on android.

Talking about junk I bet there are many folds more fart apps in the app store than Google play.

No, I am not talking about Apps that makes no sense. I am talking about spam Apps, virus Apps, inapportie apps etc. When I visit Play store I can even see p0rnographic apps. My cousin is iPhone user and He wanted to browse Play Store. He saw lots of that kind of apps and said something like ''That's why I got an iPhone''. I mean most good apps are only avabile on AppStore. When a developer decides to wrtie an App, he writes it for AppStore first, then after a couple months he rewrites app for Android and removes some features. If you remove junk and low-quality apps from play store, it has less apps. Check this article: http://google.about.com/od/androidtipscategory/qt/Avoiding-Android-Spam.htm
 

Cyborg21

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It is clear to me that Apple does a redesign of the iPhone every two years now. After the original iPhone in 2007, there have been: (i) the iPhone 3G in 2008; (ii) the iPhone 3GS in 2009; (iii) the iPhone 4 in 2010; (iv) the iPhone 4S in 2011; (v) the iPhone 5 in 2012; and the (vi) iPhone 5s in 2013. In 2014, we'll see the iPhone 6 and in 2015, the iPhone 6s, if Apple continues this trend.

So, the iPhone 5s was expected.

But let me tell you something.

When the iPhone 5 was released, I was disappointed. I had an iPhone 4S then. I thought the iPhone 5 was not big enough, and the screen was not that good. The Android alternatives looked way better.

Then, I sold my iPhone 4S to my sister and bought myself a Samsung Galaxy S4, which was the flagship smartphone back then. The first day, I loved it. It could do everything, even side-by-side multi-tasking. Wow. The second day, I was hating it. It could do everything, but it was so bad at it! After a week, I was salivating to get my iPhone back. Then, two weeks after I got the S4, I gave it to my mother and bought myself an iPhone 5. It's a lot better, I can't even compare. I can't think of trying another Android device. Ever. Android is over for me.

This is exactly what I think about my GS4, it looks much better at the first day, it has some features like Air Gestures, Smart Scroll, Air View etc. It looked so good. Then I realised that you don't use that features. They are useless. Touchwiz is ugly, Android is laggy, play store is simply horrible, build quality is really bad, screen is oversaturated and phone is bloated by Samsung's bloatware. I think only logical alternative to iPhone is HTC One. HTC One's build quality is good (to be honest not as good as iPhone but it's still really good), speakers are really good and Sense interface is beautiful but screen get ''washed-out'' sometimes, charging batterry takes too much time, it runs Android so you have to use Android Apps. Oh... I wish Apple adds a bigger screen and better battery on next iPhone :(
 

mib1800

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No, I am not talking about Apps that makes no sense. I am talking about spam Apps, virus Apps, inapportie apps etc. When I visit Play store I can even see p0rnographic apps. My cousin is iPhone user and He wanted to browse Play Store. He saw lots of that kind of apps and said something like ''That's why I got an iPhone''. I mean most good apps are only avabile on AppStore. When a developer decides to wrtie an App, he writes it for AppStore first, then after a couple months he rewrites app for Android and removes some features. If you remove junk and low-quality apps from play store, it has less apps. Check this article: http://google.about.com/od/androidtipscategory/qt/Avoiding-Android-Spam.htm

When did those apps show up when you just browse? Maybe you specifically search for them.

I browse thru play store by category and I don't see any of those so called virus or spam apps.

How many apps do you really need? Even if you eliminate all the junks in both stores there are still way too many apps.

But appstore is missing many apps (in many application areas) due to the limitation of the ios. Automation, personalization, system and hardware apps are virtually non existence in app store. E.g. launcher, widget, live wallpaper , automation apps like auto send birthday Sms email, nfc BT wifi direct apps, call recording etc etc.

I have so many everyday useful apps which can never be found in app store.
 

Oohara

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No, I am not talking about Apps that makes no sense. I am talking about spam Apps, virus Apps, inapportie apps etc. When I visit Play store I can even see p0rnographic apps. My cousin is iPhone user and He wanted to browse Play Store. He saw lots of that kind of apps and said something like ''That's why I got an iPhone''. I mean most good apps are only avabile on AppStore. When a developer decides to wrtie an App, he writes it for AppStore first, then after a couple months he rewrites app for Android and removes some features. If you remove junk and low-quality apps from play store, it has less apps. Check this article: http://google.about.com/od/androidtipscategory/qt/Avoiding-Android-Spam.htm

Ok, so there are some junk apps in the Play Store. But that's such a non-point in the Android vs iOS discussion. iOS has its fair share of junk apps too, and no sensible user would let themselves be fooled by any of those petty little attempts at micro-scamming or whatever, anyway.

What's more important is that iOS apps are generally more tweaked when it comes to design and UI functionality. Not so much the really big must-have apps like Flipboard or Evernote, but in general its more common to come across smaller, more niche apps that look and work surprisingly good on iOS, whereas they would look not so good on Android. Another strength for iOS is that the App Store has far more and better music production apps than anything available on Android.

Whereas Android apps are often more versatile, because they let you share easier between apps, use the file system with total freedom, interact with PC:s, etc - combined with the fact that there are larger screen phones to use them on.

Design/reliability/smoothess vs. versatility/customization - that's where the real value of the discussion lies. Throwing out these tired old generalizations about malicious/bad apps spamming up the Play Store only leads the discussion in a totally meaningless direction. It's getting really old.
 

Cyborg21

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When did those apps show up when you just browse? Maybe you specifically search for them.

I browse thru play store by category and I don't see any of those so called virus or spam apps.

How many apps do you really need? Even if you eliminate all the junks in both stores there are still way too many apps.

But appstore is missing many apps (in many application areas) due to the limitation of the ios. Automation, personalization, system and hardware apps are virtually non existence in app store. E.g. launcher, widget, live wallpaper , automation apps like auto send birthday Sms email, nfc BT wifi direct apps, call recording etc etc.

I have so many everyday useful apps which can never be found in app store.

Search an ordinary app (like facebook) then look second or third page you will see lots of that kind of Apps. I agree with you when it comes to freedom. iOS has lots of limitations beacuse Apple wants protect their users from viruses, spams etc. But If you really want freedom you can easily jailbreak an iPhone. I like freedom of Android but there are more cons then pros to buy an Android phone to me.

Ok, so there are some junk apps in the Play Store. But that's such a non-point in the Android vs iOS discussion. iOS has its fair share of junk apps too, and no sensible user would let themselves be fooled by any of those petty little attempts at micro-scamming or whatever, anyway.

What's more important is that iOS apps are generally more tweaked when it comes to design and UI functionality. Not so much the really big must-have apps like Flipboard or Evernote, but in general its more common to come across smaller, more niche apps that look and work surprisingly good on iOS, whereas they would look not so good on Android. Another strength for iOS is that the App Store has far more and better music production apps than anything available on Android.

Whereas Android apps are often more versatile, because they let you share easier between apps, use the file system with total freedom, interact with PC:s, etc - combined with the fact that there are larger screen phones to use them on.

Design/reliability/smoothess vs. versatility/customization - that's where the real value of the discussion lies. Throwing out these tired old generalizations about malicious/bad apps spamming up the Play Store only leads the discussion in a totally meaningless direction. It's getting really old.

Yes, I agree but I still think there are more cons than pros of buying Android but if you really want to buy an Android phone, do not buy Samsung. Sony and HTC phones are MUCH better. Samsung spends tons of money to make Galaxy Devices look better. Apple spends 1 billion $ for marketing and Samsung spends 13 billion $. They paid students to make comments about bashing HTC one on social media (Such as Youtube, Facebook and Twitter), they paid for technology news portals to make news about Samsung products and bash Apple Products. Samsung is a liar, bad and evil company :mad: . Anyway I think that is the end of discussion :)
 

blackhand1001

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I agree with the OP on a few things.
I've had all of the iPhones from the 3G to the 5S.
The only reason why I upgraded from the 5, was because I wanted to lol.
Okay, I'll be honest, it's because I like to stay up to fate with the latest iPhone, I find the mechanics/ software beneficial. I like to play games, so the 64bit is a big deal for me. A few apps have been updated for the 64bit and boy do I see a difference.
That caught my attention.
I picked up the gold 64 gig on launch day and was I startled. Yes there are so many similarities from the iPhone 5, but the 5 was and still is premium product.
I passed it onto my girlfriend and bit is she happy.
I used the note 3 for a few days before I had the 5S, it's an interesting device with features that are Insane

BUT.....
When you're used to simplicity that is tailored to the mass market, it's hard to convert to a device that is complicated.
But bud, if you're done with the iPhone, maybe the 6 would make you happier.
Hope you enjoy the nexus 5.

No offense but you are not seeing any graphics improvements because of 64bit. The developer may have added more effects for the new phone but it has nothing to do with the change to 64bit.
 

SlCKB0Y

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Android is open source and not written for a specific hardware, this makes it laggy. iOS is only made for Apple A-Series chips and its closed source operating system so it has to be more stable than Android.

This is the best stuff this guy has come up with yet.

An OS doesn't need to be written for specific hardware... that's what drivers are for.

An OS is compiled against an architecture and sure, optimisations can be made and the open source kernel allows this to be done by an OEM.

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On my GS4 there is no syncing needed. Dropbox, chrome, contacts, messages, productivity documents and everything needed no extra effort at all. If it's on my phone it's automatically on my MacBook Air.

Dude, what happened to you?!?! I had you blocked for months because of your total pro-iPhone troll posts and now you have a GS4??? And your posts are all reasonable, moderate and balanced!

Good for you! Welcome!! :p

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• I had to install an anti-virus. Otherwise, the phone would just get viruses via bluetooth. Just like we humans get viruses being exposed to the air, so does Android.

What complete and absolute rubbish.
 

Dontazemebro

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Probably just personal taste. When I use Android phones now they just don't feel as refined to me. All smartphones do more or less the same thing so its a case of finding one you like and enjoy using. Some people like Android, some people like iPhones. I like the latter and can't see that changing as things stand.

Could it be the bounce back and natural scrolling effect of iOS that you prefer? I know Android feels a bit more robotic and I think most longtime iOS users notice this immediately when switching over to Android.
 

mib1800

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Search an ordinary app (like facebook) then look second or third page you will see lots of that kind of Apps. I agree with you when it comes to freedom. iOS has lots of limitations beacuse Apple wants protect their users from viruses, spams etc. But If you really want freedom you can easily jailbreak an iPhone. I like freedom of Android but there are more cons then pros to buy an Android phone to me.

Do that in appstore and you also get lots of results. Are those all spams and scam apps as well?

I think you discredit genuine apps and developers with your totally unfounded bias statement.

Yes, I agree but I still think there are more cons than pros of buying Android but if you really want to buy an Android phone, do not buy Samsung. Sony and HTC phones are MUCH better. Samsung spends tons of money to make Galaxy Devices look better. Apple spends 1 billion $ for marketing and Samsung spends 13 billion $. They paid students to make comments about bashing HTC one on social media (Such as Youtube, Facebook and Twitter), they paid for technology news portals to make news about Samsung products and bash Apple Products. Samsung is a liar, bad and evil company :mad: . Anyway I think that is the end of discussion :)

You are so naive to think apple is any better.

And where did you get samsung spend 13 times more money on marketing than apple? Nonsense.
 

skaertus

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Not sure if serious or just joking at us.

I am not joking. Yes, it is possible to get viruses from Bluetooth if you are using an Android device. Some viruses just send themselves to other devices, and if Bluetooth is enabled, and installation from sources other than the app store is enabled as well, then you may get a virus. It's not something out of this world, and it has been reported several times. I don't know why you still think this is a joke.
 

SlCKB0Y

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Some viruses just send themselves to other devices, and if Bluetooth is enabled, and installation from sources other than the app store is enabled as well, then you may get a virus. It's not something out of this world, and it has been reported several times.

Ok, then... find us *ONE* credible source to back up your claims. It such a spectacularly bad security hole that media sources would have picked up on it.
 

Oletros

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I am not joking. Yes, it is possible to get viruses from Bluetooth if you are using an Android device. Some viruses just send themselves to other devices, and if Bluetooth is enabled, and installation from sources other than the app store is enabled as well, then you may get a virus. It's not something out of this world, and it has been reported several times. I don't know why you still think this is a joke.

Totally false, an application can not be installed without user interaction.

And if it so easy, can you post just a link to that?

And, by the way there is no single virus for Android
 

daveathall

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This is exactly what I think about my GS4, it looks much better at the first day, it has some features like Air Gestures, Smart Scroll, Air View etc. It looked so good. Then I realised that you don't use that features. They are useless. Touchwiz is ugly, Android is laggy, play store is simply horrible, build quality is really bad, screen is oversaturated and phone is bloated by Samsung's bloatware. I think only logical alternative to iPhone is HTC One. HTC One's build quality is good (to be honest not as good as iPhone but it's still really good), speakers are really good and Sense interface is beautiful but screen get ''washed-out'' sometimes, charging batterry takes too much time, it runs Android so you have to use Android Apps. Oh... I wish Apple adds a bigger screen and better battery on next iPhone :(


Although you say you have had a SGS4……..You haven't really, have you? Your posts are made up of outdated hearsay. Why not go use a flagship Android phone and then come back and give us your thoughts rather than some nonsense that you have read on the web.
 

Markyboy81

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This is exactly what I think about my GS4, it looks much better at the first day, it has some features like Air Gestures, Smart Scroll, Air View etc. It looked so good. Then I realised that you don't use that features. They are useless. Touchwiz is ugly, Android is laggy, play store is simply horrible, build quality is really bad, screen is oversaturated and phone is bloated by Samsung's bloatware. I think only logical alternative to iPhone is HTC One. HTC One's build quality is good (to be honest not as good as iPhone but it's still really good), speakers are really good and Sense interface is beautiful but screen get ''washed-out'' sometimes, charging batterry takes too much time, it runs Android so you have to use Android Apps. Oh... I wish Apple adds a bigger screen and better battery on next iPhone :(

"You don't use the features" - I like the way you feel you can speak for everyone. Personally I agree that a lot of the features aren't much use to me, though I do use air gesture and smart stay, and occasionally multi window. And I'm sure other people make good use of the other features.
I also disagree that touchwiz is ugly and don't think it lags too much. A lot of it is a matter of personal opinion and choice, although you seem to be putting your opinion across as fact.
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Could it be the bounce back and natural scrolling effect of iOS that you prefer? I know Android feels a bit more robotic and I think most longtime iOS users notice this immediately when switching over to Android.
It's just the whole feel of using it I like. I've only been on iOS for a year and was on Android for 4 years before that so if anything I'm more familiar with Android. I enjoyed my time using it and am in no way anti it in any way, but my general feeling since moving is that I am now using something that feels more refined. I wouldn't rule out a return to Android in the future and after playing with a friends S4 last night, I liked what I saw. I just prefer at this point, the simplicity and fluid nature of iOS. :)
 
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