You know they will keep the notch for a long time, so when they do finally make it smaller, they will make a big deal out of it.
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You're not the only one. iPhone 12 base (64gb) price is actually $867 vs. iPhone 11 base $699.
$699 + $100 Price increase + $30 Unlocked fee + $19 AC Adapter + $19 Earpods with Lightning = $867
I will get LG Wing this year.
$699 + $100 Price increase + $30 Unlocked fee + $19 AC Adapter + $19 Earpods with Lightning = $867
I will get LG Wing this year.
Well said: Disappointed! Absolutely no reason for me to give up my iPhone 11. The iPhone X screen wasn't all that to me and I live in a rural area where 5G is unavailable, plus LTE is more than adequate for my use. Apple raised the price $100 for iPhone 12 from the 11, made minimal improvements overall and I don't want the smaller iPhone 12 mini with reduced battery life. I'd buy a 12 if it were $699, but not $799 for a "leap" I don't see.
Going to sit this year's phone out, just like I sat the Xs year out.
For most users, IMO, the best value in all the iPhones right now is the iPhone 11 for a reduced $599.
Going to sit this year's phone out, just like I sat the Xs year out.
For most users, IMO, the best value in all the iPhones right now is the iPhone 11 for a reduced $599.
Pretty underwhelming presentation IMO. I skipped the 11, so I was definitely looking forward to this release... but now I'm kinda having to talk myself into it.
Am I the only person that has never minded the notch? The phones are so big now that a notch is irrelevant to me.
Otherwise I find it interesting that after years of calling for a redesign, we finally get a pretty big one (the first rectangular / sharp edge iPhone in several years) and people are still disappointed
Otherwise I find it interesting that after years of calling for a redesign, we finally get a pretty big one (the first rectangular / sharp edge iPhone in several years) and people are still disappointed
I only mind the notch when I come from an android phone to an iPhone. But even then once I use the iPhone for a bit it’s all good. I would prefer the notch to go away though.
Yeah for you that has the iPhone 11 there’s really no need to upgrade. I’m coming from an 8 plus so I’m definitely grabbing that iPhone 12
I have been upgrading every year for the past 5 years to the topmost model. Now Apple failed to give me a reason to upgrade.
No 5G here, also photography is/will be very minimal due to the pandemic. And I was so ready to upgrade. 😔
No 5G here, also photography is/will be very minimal due to the pandemic. And I was so ready to upgrade. 😔
I’m sticking with my iPhone X again. Although the iPhone 11 for $599 ain’t a bad deal at all. Otherwise, I’m thoroughly disappointed with Apple’s iPhone offerings.
Yeah this is by far my biggest complaint about the “new” iPhones.
I love the return of the flat edge design but to retain the same sized notch as it first debuted 3 years ago is just sad. This just screams laziness and milking the customer. The same 3 year old notch will now be a 4 year old notch until the next iPhone, and I wouldn’t be surprised if the notch again stays untouched, because we’re talking about Apple here.
If you're expecting amazing year on year updates on a fairly mature device (like the iPhones and iPads and Macs now are), you're always going to be disappointed.
Run your phones for 2-4 years; the incremental upgrades over that time are decent.
If you're hopping from year X to year X+1 every time, there's just never going to be a huge leap these days. Most of the "problems" with older phones are solved.
Well.... no surprise? See above.
I'd actually say the best value iPhone for most right now is the SE (shock horror, it's meant to be the "value" phone).
Run your phones for 2-4 years; the incremental upgrades over that time are decent.
If you're hopping from year X to year X+1 every time, there's just never going to be a huge leap these days. Most of the "problems" with older phones are solved.
Well.... no surprise? See above.
I'd actually say the best value iPhone for most right now is the SE (shock horror, it's meant to be the "value" phone).
- TouchID so it unlocks with a mask on
- same processor as an 11
- same gpu was an 11 with smaller screen to drive
- notch free!
- much cheaper
I agree with you to some extent. I think the notch is here to stay for the next model revisions. i too was hoping for something smaller but I think it’d fruitless to wait for the notch to disappear. So another 2 years probably will have the same design s fudge. Plus it differentiates iPhones from other full screen devices. When you see the notch on tv you know it’s an iPhone.
Anway I also agree on the dumb price increase. They moved the phone most will buy, the 12, too close to the 12 pro. It’s a thousand dollar phone that’s supposed to Be affordable! Ugh I think Apple figures sales will be low so make up the margins by charging more per phone.
I fully support everything you have said. Dangerous post for this forum though mate. Check out my thread!
I think we see the future of charging for the iPhone and it’s not wired. So usb c while awesome (I’m usb c all the way at home), will never come to the iPhone. Mag Safe is the standard now.
Not only you. Missing so many stuff. Pretty much the same every yr. No usb c.. why?
There are two sides to the equation, announced improvements : personal expectation
Almost all 'the new' had been priced-in already for people who frequent fan speculation sites. It's a solid launch in a tough year, all the important things got a bit better + 5G, new colour / shape / size.
Some people expect too much - Apple are a commercial enterprise giving a strong return on shareholder capital deployed & will undoubtedly continue to do so another year. If it's not for you personally then that may be a little disappointing, but a little context & perspective would help.
Almost all 'the new' had been priced-in already for people who frequent fan speculation sites. It's a solid launch in a tough year, all the important things got a bit better + 5G, new colour / shape / size.
Some people expect too much - Apple are a commercial enterprise giving a strong return on shareholder capital deployed & will undoubtedly continue to do so another year. If it's not for you personally then that may be a little disappointing, but a little context & perspective would help.
You're not the only one. It's concerning to see how Apple has become this huge ocean liner that can't be redirected within six months.
We're in Covid times for nine months now and they give us a phone with features no one needs (faster FaceID?) but not features we do need (TouchID on the power button as a second unlock option for when we are out and about with face masks on). If it were a new feature they've never ever had, I'd be forgiving.
But it's a parts bin feature. The software is all there (Apple sells TouchID phones still TODAY new) and the hardware is parts bin as well (they've introduced it to the iPad Air 4).
The silly thing is, an iPad we often use indoors/at home where Face unlock beats touch unlock. A Phone we use out and about where touch unlock for the next year or so beats face unlock.
Thus no purchase from me this year.
We're in Covid times for nine months now and they give us a phone with features no one needs (faster FaceID?) but not features we do need (TouchID on the power button as a second unlock option for when we are out and about with face masks on). If it were a new feature they've never ever had, I'd be forgiving.
But it's a parts bin feature. The software is all there (Apple sells TouchID phones still TODAY new) and the hardware is parts bin as well (they've introduced it to the iPad Air 4).
The silly thing is, an iPad we often use indoors/at home where Face unlock beats touch unlock. A Phone we use out and about where touch unlock for the next year or so beats face unlock.
Thus no purchase from me this year.
I too have a 3 year old X after having the original, 3G, 4, 5, 6 Plus, 6S Plus, and 7 Plus. I skipped the annual when the XS and XS Max came out and didn't feel last year's camera phones were enough reason to get an 11 Pro, added to which the 11 was the middle size like the R.
That said at 3 years, I will likely get the 12 Pro Max and not the 12 Pro, hoping not to have much finger / hand strain trying to use it one-handed and enjoy the screen real estate again after the X for emails and webpages, etc. I hope my pockets don't hate me.
If there is something groundbreaking next year, I'd consider an annual upgrade again, otherwise using the 2 year interval method I will be in a prime spot for the 14 lineup should it be awesome. However, given that my X is 3 years old in a couple weeks and battery life isn't what it used to be, I was going to upgrade this year no matter what. I wish the Pro Blue was like the non-pro Blue, like the Blue on the Series 6 Watch and not "Pacific", but I think I get why. I also don't like the staggered release. But I want a bigger screen and I don't think the jump from my 5.8" X to a 6.1" 12 Pro is much, so it's the Pro Max for me.
Yes, they touted more camera stuff, which my X camera has serious lag issues and though I don't take tons of pics, the Portrait Mode on it is awesome and I will enjoy the camera. I don't game or watch much content, so 120Ghz doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
That said the 3 things I would have liked to see in order of priority:
1. Get rid of the Camera Bump. Make the phone thicker and the camera flush. I think I'd like to go back to careless, especially with the less slippery squared design, and actually see the color of my phone. One of the biggest reasons I have a case is to make the phone flatter.
2. Use the added thickness of making the phone as thick as the camera bump, to increase the thickness and volume of the Battery for longer life!!!
3. I would have loved to see Dual Authentication. FaceID and iPad Air Sleep/Wake TouchID button.
3b. I too would love to see the notch gone. I'd prefer a thin forehead over the notch. I think it detracts from watching full screen video.
That said at 3 years, I will likely get the 12 Pro Max and not the 12 Pro, hoping not to have much finger / hand strain trying to use it one-handed and enjoy the screen real estate again after the X for emails and webpages, etc. I hope my pockets don't hate me.
If there is something groundbreaking next year, I'd consider an annual upgrade again, otherwise using the 2 year interval method I will be in a prime spot for the 14 lineup should it be awesome. However, given that my X is 3 years old in a couple weeks and battery life isn't what it used to be, I was going to upgrade this year no matter what. I wish the Pro Blue was like the non-pro Blue, like the Blue on the Series 6 Watch and not "Pacific", but I think I get why. I also don't like the staggered release. But I want a bigger screen and I don't think the jump from my 5.8" X to a 6.1" 12 Pro is much, so it's the Pro Max for me.
Yes, they touted more camera stuff, which my X camera has serious lag issues and though I don't take tons of pics, the Portrait Mode on it is awesome and I will enjoy the camera. I don't game or watch much content, so 120Ghz doesn't seem like a big deal to me.
That said the 3 things I would have liked to see in order of priority:
1. Get rid of the Camera Bump. Make the phone thicker and the camera flush. I think I'd like to go back to careless, especially with the less slippery squared design, and actually see the color of my phone. One of the biggest reasons I have a case is to make the phone flatter.
2. Use the added thickness of making the phone as thick as the camera bump, to increase the thickness and volume of the Battery for longer life!!!
3. I would have loved to see Dual Authentication. FaceID and iPad Air Sleep/Wake TouchID button.
3b. I too would love to see the notch gone. I'd prefer a thin forehead over the notch. I think it detracts from watching full screen video.
OK, let me squash some myths here. I switched from iPhone to Android back in 2016 and it's the best decision I have ever made. Until then, I relied heavily on iCloud, iOS calendar etc. This is where you need to make a change.
Move all of your contacts to Google. Download Google calendar and start adding entries to that. Move your storage items to Drive and your images over to Google pictures. Finally, get a GMail account and use it for primary email. All of this will take less time than it would take to set up a new iPhone.
Once done, you will be able to access EVERYTHING you ever need on any phone. Want to switch back to iPhone? No problem, just link your Google account and all of your content will be there. It's so simple.
I have to agree with you and I said this a few weeks ago Apple are simply trading water and the tide is going to turn and majority will slowly move on. The price just doesn’t reflect any value and the fact they still have not gotten rid of the notch sums up how lacking they are in ideas.
They need a innovator in charge like a Steve Jobs who had forward thinking ideas and not somebody who thinks improvement in the camera area is all that you need. Let’s get one thing straight here for the majority of people the images sit on our phone and we never even print them out. So improving the camera every year makes very little difference in people’s life’s.
They need a innovator in charge like a Steve Jobs who had forward thinking ideas and not somebody who thinks improvement in the camera area is all that you need. Let’s get one thing straight here for the majority of people the images sit on our phone and we never even print them out. So improving the camera every year makes very little difference in people’s life’s.