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HiFiGuy528

macrumors 68000
Jul 24, 2008
1,875
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About UsedSnoopy:

To protect your security, PayPal offers information on the status of this member.

Seller Reputation: (0) Verified Buyers

Account Status: Verified
Account Type: US Business
Account Creation Date: Dec. 10, 2007
PayPal Member For: 1 year 2 months 15 days

Member accepts all payments

Cust. Service Email: rzeitun@yahoo.com
Cust. Service Phone: 3059059257

This is a huge RED FLAG
 

NC MacGuy

macrumors 603
Feb 9, 2005
6,233
0
The good side of the grass.
Yesterday around 6 I offered to buy two MBP's, pay immediately via Paypal and pick up today. Haven't heard a word back.

I was think of jacking with him and buying 10 and see who comes after me for payment.

His number was:
PLEASE ANY QUESTIONS
EMAIL OR CALL
RUBEN 754-244-5377
 

bossxii

macrumors 68000
Nov 9, 2008
1,754
0
Kansas City
I'm going to have to find the links but I just read two today. One about CITIBANK being scammed and the other about some lady who sent them USD 400,000 over 2 years. Incredible. It's greed that gets people in the end.




You lost me on this one. How do you get nailed for the amount AFTER you cash in a money order? You'd obviously do it before sending off the 1800.

Out of curiosity, the general opinion here in this thread is that PAYPAL would hold the money in the scammers account for a certain period. I don't know much about ebay. What's the methodology to take out the cash from the account?

eV

Basic scam is the money orders show up from a guy in Oklahoma I think it was, the money orders were from a bank off the east coast I think. They will end up being frauds, but if I have enough money in my checking or savings account my bank will cash them for me. They see I have money to cover and these money orders look real. In a couple days when my bank finds out they are fraudulent money orders they take the money out of my accounts. So I not only gave away 1800 via Western Union, I paid myself 900 bucks with my own money.

I didn't cash them, but it made for some interesting reading in finding about about the 419 scam. I went back today again and was reading it has been going on since the early 80's. Amazing how much cash has been taken out of the country by these tactics and still going strong. I could linke you at least 3 or 4 scams going on Craigslist right now on the boards for Kansas City alone. They are trying to sell Macbook Pros 2.53 unibody ones for 1100 bucks. Anyhow...
 

OnceBitten

macrumors member
Feb 18, 2009
93
0
OK google this( ruben zeitun miami), ok a few days ago spoke to yoshi, in hebrew he said Joseph, the two name are together on the first link someone can you dig a bit more?
 

bossxii

macrumors 68000
Nov 9, 2008
1,754
0
Kansas City
Using a service I use at work for some background checks the 754 number shows;

Phone Number (754)-244-5377

Name Possible pre-paid or unregistered
Type
Area HOLLYWOOD, FL
County BROWARD
Timezone EASTERN
Carrier Info "METRO PCS, INC."
Search Date 02/24/2009

The other number listed 305 shows:
FRANK TOOMEY Fort lauderdale FL 33334 305-491-8278

Not sure if this help but...
 

bossxii

macrumors 68000
Nov 9, 2008
1,754
0
Kansas City
Searching by his name "RUBEN ZEITUN" doesn't list the area code.. but doesn't seem to match anything above anyhow.

RUBEN ZEITUN 38 MIAMI FL 33126 682-9191
 

tigres

macrumors 601
Aug 31, 2007
4,214
1,326
Land of the Free-Waiting for Term Limits
Using a service I use at work for some background checks the 754 number shows;

Phone Number (754)-244-5377

Name Possible pre-paid or unregistered
Type
Area HOLLYWOOD, FL
County BROWARD
Timezone EASTERN
Carrier Info "METRO PCS, INC."
Search Date 02/24/2009

The other number listed 305 shows:
FRANK TOOMEY Fort lauderdale FL 33334 305-491-8278

Not sure if this help but...

Damn.
This thread is better than LOST. It keeps getting better.
 

bugout

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
May 11, 2008
721
40
is everything!
While I have lost most hope, I have a feeling we might be crossing a line here until its confirmed that this guy is really a scumbag.. but i dunno... I'll leave that to the mods to decide.
 

bossxii

macrumors 68000
Nov 9, 2008
1,754
0
Kansas City
here what i was talking about

940 Lincoln Rd Ste 311 Miami Beach, FL 33139 - 4:43pm
940 Lincoln Road Enterprises, Inc. Miami Beach, Florida ... D M L New Millenia Sign Designs, Inc. Miami Beach, Florida ..... Josef Zeitun · Ruben Zeitun ...
http://www.corporationwiki.com/Florida/Miami-Beach/940-Lincoln-Rd-Ste-311- Miami-Beach-FL-33139-a12465.aspx - 265k - Cached - Similar pages -

Sorry I didn't google him, was just trying to find out any further info for the people that were giving out numbers and names. I was just putting his name thru my background checking software to see if I could find out anything more then google searches.

@bugout... I don't think were crossing any lines here, were simply trying to figure out if this is a legit sale or a scam. Until someone says they get a box of rocks or no boxes or whatever doing a background check is not an issue. I have purchased and sold many items online and I not only due a pretty detailed background search I trace IP's and do a few checks of my own prior to completing a sale. It's just to easy to fake an identity and scam people anymore if your not safe and checking out who your sending money too, your bound to get burned eventually.

Again I hope this works out but after reading thru the last 3 pages that were posted today of people trying to find out or call him I just wanted to provide any help I could. The software I use isn't revealing anything that anyone that pays a 30 dollar a year fee can access. Heck White Pages may pull up similar info lol. I just thought I would check the phone numbers to see if there was any legit numbers to help clear up any questoins people had.
 

Stachelsk

macrumors regular
Dec 17, 2008
132
0
Simply amazing.

All of you who have purchased a laptop have wasted an incredible amount of time and money. Maybe you aren't the bullet, but somebody else is, and that's why our economy is in the state it is, along with a heap of other somewhat-preventable issues. Think how long it's going to take them at PayPal to muck around through all this and return your funds. That's a lot of labor and money on their part; money that they wouldn't have had to pay if any one of you who purchased the item looked at the bid, and instead of using your trigger finger, used your brain to reason.

Buying things you can't afford, or out of your reach, on credit or cash, is why the American economy has crashed oh-so-many times. Americans have no economic reasoning, and it has to be one of the most infuriating things for me, and the couple of other billion people around the world dealing with the issue. You're probably not liking the economy that much either, I imagine.

Anyways, continuing on: I saw a show the other day in which contestants were picked off seats and put into the middle of a game show. The announcer had them sitting around a table with a couple of dollars in it, maybe $10 at most. The announcer said that anyone could grab the money anytime they wanted, and as much as they wanted. One catch, however: If there was at least $1 in the bowl every x seconds, he would continuously add money to the bowl as long as at least $1 remained in the bowl. Before the words GO had left his lips, hands went flying for the bowl and emptied it quicker than than you all pressed the "BUY IT NOW" button when you see a $1800 product listed online at nearly a 50% discount off a buyer who hasn't sold anything in months.

If the market is demanding ~$1800 for these laptops, who in their right mind quickly throw a heap of money (that could be far better off invested) for them when they're being sold at a too-good-to-be-true price like this. Think about it: the seller would have incurred a 40% loss on an amount that most Americans hope to make in one calendar year, before taxes?

Regardless if or not he has any knowledge of Apple products, do you think the person in question, if he actually had the laptops, would have listed hundreds of thousands in laptops at a 40% loss? Who in their right mind wouldn't do a little research to figure out what the market is demanding for a product before selling anything even about $50? All you have to do is goto eBay, or google and type the products name in to get a sense of what it's going for...

Everyone, regardless of not of having purchased... well, nothing, should stop a think for a moment about all the trouble they could have saved others. If you find something on eBay, or anywhere for that matter, that is going under it's retail market value for a small threshold, and are willing to get into a situation like this, go ahead. Me? I'll just go to the Apple store and take a look at what I'm purchasing before I buy it... cash in hand, not on card.

P.S.: Flame away.

P.P.S.: I could go on for ages. People need to stop beliving that there's always a cushion for them to fall on and not live penny by penny, if they can help it (EDIT: That's why there's welfare). I fail to find a different between bailing out auto industries and bailing out people who buy a scam, then demand 100% of their money back. Same goes for people who overend on their credit card after buying luxury goods, and then complaining when debtors are demanding money.
 

OnceBitten

macrumors member
Feb 18, 2009
93
0
Sorry I didn't google him, was just trying to find out any further info for the people that were giving out numbers and names. I was just putting his name thru my background checking software to see if I could find out anything more then google searches.

If they think it too much just remove it fron the quote:(
 

bigjnyc

macrumors G3
Apr 10, 2008
8,288
7,628
lol damn investigators won't have to do much work when they are looking for this guy. Just show them this thread, most of the work is already done for them.
 

Hawkeye411

macrumors 68000
Jun 6, 2007
1,833
12
Canada EH!!!
No need to withdraw funds to complete scam!

He doesn't need to withdraw the money from PayPal to complete his little scam. When purchases are made, the money goes immediately into his PayPal account. Then he uses that money to make many purchases from either Ebay auctions or from websites that accept PayPal payments. The Ebay seller or the company usually ship within a couple days. So all the merchandise that he purchased, and can resell, is on its way to him before any red flags go up at Ebay or PayPal.

So ... you may be pretty certain that you will get your money back but, by purchasing from these "too good to be true auctions", you are actually the reason that the scam is ultimately successful.

Cheers.
:):apple:
 

bugout

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
May 11, 2008
721
40
is everything!
He doesn't need to withdraw the money from PayPal to complete his little scam. When purchases are made, the money goes immediately into his PayPal account. Then he uses that money to make many purchases from either Ebay auctions or from websites that accept PayPal payments. The Ebay seller or the company usually ship within a couple days. So all the merchandise that he purchased, and can resell, is on its way to him before any red flags go up at Ebay or PayPal.

So ... you may be pretty certain that you will get your money back but, by purchasing from these "too good to be true auctions", you are actually the reason that the scam is ultimately successful.

Cheers.
:):apple:

Not true, the money is completely inaccessible.
 

Stachelsk

macrumors regular
Dec 17, 2008
132
0
Lovely set of preconceived notions you have there.. You have no idea what my or anyone else here's financial situation is.

I'm a freshman attending a university. You have no idea what my financial situation is right now. You have access to a computer, evidently, so why do you need a new one?
 

bugout

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
May 11, 2008
721
40
is everything!
Since when?? I have made sales on Ebay this week and make purchases with the money right away. :D

Thats because paypal hasn't blocked your account. I already spoke with paypal today and they already confirmed that there are "unresolved issues" with his account. Code for blocked..
 

OnceBitten

macrumors member
Feb 18, 2009
93
0
Since when?? I have made sales on Ebay this week and make purchases with the money right away. :D
you are wrong, they now hold money from me too for any large sales or sometimes any item, I have 100% feedback and they just started that not too long ago.
 

Hawkeye411

macrumors 68000
Jun 6, 2007
1,833
12
Canada EH!!!
Thats because paypal hasn't blocked your account. I already spoke with paypal today and they already confirmed that there are "unresolved issues" with his account. Code for blocked..

Yes ... it's blocked now because people have complained. However, the scammer makes purchases with the PayPal money as soon as it begins to enter into his account. He would continue to make purchases until the account is frozen. By that time many of the items he purchased are already in the mail and on their way to him.
 

bugout

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
May 11, 2008
721
40
is everything!
I'm a freshman attending a university. You have no idea what my financial situation is right now. You have access to a computer, evidently, so why do you need a new one?

You have no idea what I need, and I don't understand why it should even matter to you.
 
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