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macPlayer15

macrumors member
Feb 19, 2009
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OK google this( ruben zeitun miami), ok a few days ago spoke to yoshi, in hebrew he said Joseph, the two name are together on the first link someone can you dig a bit more?

Ok just called the number above spoke to him in hebrew and said I was looking for my x ,then said I must have the wrong number, he is going by the name David now.

The fact you can link the guy to registered businesses in US makes me a tiny bit hopeful.
 

Stachelsk

macrumors regular
Dec 17, 2008
132
0
You have no idea what I need, and I don't understand why it should even matter to you.

Actually, I do know what you need. You need food, shelter, clothing, and a few other basic necessities. Everything else, that's just what you want.

It matters to me because now there's a couple dozen of people at PayPal clicking away and resolving their own issues because of your failure to think before purchasing an item. You wasted somebody else's money, and it's all a circular process. If that person had been better off, his gain would have eventually tricked down to the rest of us. Now, instead, his loss is trickling down to the rest of us.
 

spacecadet610

macrumors 6502
Mar 11, 2006
389
4
Seriously, I don't know what Stachelsk's problem is. Actually, he says what his problem is but it just sounds like a rant about society which has little relevance to this thread.
 

Hawkeye411

macrumors 68000
Jun 6, 2007
1,833
12
Canada EH!!!
you are wrong, they now hold money from me too for any large sales or sometimes any item, I have 100% feedback and they just started that not too long ago.

I'm wrong?? That's a strange comment. I'm speaking from my own experience. I sell items and spend the money right away. Some times within a couple hours. I've never had the money held for any amount of time.

Anyway ... as I described above .. there is no need to withdraw the funds to complete the scam. The scammer simply spends the money on other merchandise, that he can resell, before the red flags go up.

Cheers.
:):apple:
 

OnceBitten

macrumors member
Feb 18, 2009
93
0
I'm wrong?? That's a strange comment. I'm speaking from my own experience. I sell items and spend the money right away. Some times within a couple hours. I've never had the money held for any amount of time.

Anyway ... as I described above .. there is no need to withdraw the funds to complete the scam. The scammer simply spends the money on other merchandise, that he can resell, before the red flags go up.

Cheers.
:):apple:

There is a hold put on it, you cant spend it or withdraw it, I have to ship then get paid all I have to do is call paypal after it shows delivered, then the hold is lifted. Maybe Canada is different?
 

bugout

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
May 11, 2008
721
40
is everything!
Actually, I do know what you need. You need food, shelter, clothing, and a few other basic necessities. Everything else, that's just what you want.

It matters to me because now there's a couple dozen of people at PayPal clicking away and resolving their own issues because of your failure to think before purchasing an item. You wasted somebody else's money, and it's all a circular process. If that person had been better off, his gain would have eventually tricked down to the rest of us. Now, instead, his loss is trickling down to the rest of us.

I need quite a few computers to do my job - again, you know nothing about what I need. (blah blah blah food shelter ok go hug a tree)

Paypal offers something called "buyer protection" for people to feel comfortable making purchases on ebay. The fact paypal is "clicking around" is part of the business model they designed. (Actually its all computerized based on quite a few algorithms but that's a whole other discussion)

You obviously have a very idealistic view of the world. Let's have this discussion in 10 years when you know whats it like out here from experience and not from news bytes.

Enjoy the ramen.
 

bugout

macrumors 6502a
Original poster
May 11, 2008
721
40
is everything!
There is a hold put on it, you cant spend it or withdraw it, I have to ship then get paid all I have to do is call paypal after it shows delivered, then the hold is lifted. Maybe Canada is different?

No, canada is not different. Paypal started doing this about 2 months ago for lower feedback higher risk accounts. They dont do it with me and bunch of other people with a long history.
 

Hawkeye411

macrumors 68000
Jun 6, 2007
1,833
12
Canada EH!!!
There is a hold put on it, you cant spend it or withdraw it, I have to ship then get paid all I have to do is call paypal after it shows delivered, then the hold is lifted. Maybe Canada is different?

Not sure what your talking about. I sold 20 items and made 4 purchases in the past 30 days with no hold on my funds and no need to prove that the items were delivered. I have never had an experience like what your describing where I would need to call PayPal. If this was the case they would need an army of people answering their phones to manually release money for the millions of transactions that occur daily.

Anyway ... not really sure why I'm having this discussion :confused:

Cheers.
:):apple:
 
T

The Toddfather

Guest
Seriously, I don't know what Stachelsk's problem is. Actually, he says what his problem is but it just sounds like a rant about society which has little relevance to this thread.

Therein lies the problem. Stachelsk connects the dots of how greedy behavior leads to greater societal issues, yet you don't or can't understand. This is the reason the country is so screwed, everyone wants something for nothing (or next to nothing) and then complains about costs.
 

Stachelsk

macrumors regular
Dec 17, 2008
132
0
I need quite a few computers to do my job - again, you know nothing about what I need. (blah blah blah food shelter ok go hug a tree)

Paypal offers something called "buyer protection" for people to feel comfortable making purchases on ebay. The fact paypal is "clicking around" is part of the business model they designed. (Actually its all computerized based on quite a few algorithms but that's a whole other discussion)

You obviously have a very idealistic view of the world. Let's have this discussion in 10 years when you know whats it like out here from experience and not from news bytes.

Enjoy the ramen.

I'd be interested to hear the field you work in, one that requires that you have a Rev B MacBook Air... Excuse me if I'm wrong, but don't most professional places of employment use a standardized operating system, like Microsoft-based products or Linux anyways? Sure, there are a few that use Apple, so if you're one of them, okay. But: Why would you buy the Lexus synonym of a laptop when there's other, many more affordable laptops with the same power for a much lesser price tag. If you can afford a Lexus, that's one thing. But apparently, you are not in the situation to afford one, as you tried to buy one well under it's market value. Either that, or you are a greedy person. Also, what kind of field do you work in that you are not supplied the objects need to complete your work? The only excuse that can you really use to dig you out of that one is that you're an entrepreneur or the head of your computer... in which case are you buying a such an exquisite computer for work anyways?

I'm calling huge amounts of BS here. You don't need a Rev B MBA.
If you "need" a computer, you don't "need" a brand-new sealed one anyways.
Get an open box, or get one that's going at a plausible deal, like the offer below this post.

And in case you missed my earlier point, you shouldn't rely on fallbacks if you can help it. Relying on fallbacks, or credit or of some form of "it's somebody else's problem" notion, is what did over the economy, in case you haven't read the news...

Food shelters have to do with welfare, and trees have to do with the environment. I never mentioned anything about the environment, so what are you talking about?

And if you think that this entire process, including the return of your funds, was completely automated, you need to get your head looked at. There was user input in there somewhere along the line.

I love Ramen Noodles, thanks.
 

kinkster

macrumors 6502a
Sep 15, 2008
534
0
He's still saying he'll have more Airs up this week.

I asked him If i could send the money to an address, haha.
 

tigres

macrumors 601
Aug 31, 2007
4,214
1,326
Land of the Free-Waiting for Term Limits
Actually, I do know what you need. You need food, shelter, clothing, and a few other basic necessities. Everything else, that's just what you want.

It matters to me because now there's a couple dozen of people at PayPal clicking away and resolving their own issues because of your failure to think before purchasing an item. You wasted somebody else's money, and it's all a circular process. If that person had been better off, his gain would have eventually tricked down to the rest of us. Now, instead, his loss is trickling down to the rest of us.

OT-
Or to the contrary...

He (or they) are keeping Paypal in business, and those clickers busy and helping our collapsing economy.

Look me up when you graduate, you marry, have kids, and support yourself and your family; oh and fall on your ass a few times in the working world.

I (as well as many others) may appreciate your values, but your high horse has no room in here.

End Rant.. Back to topic
 

Stachelsk

macrumors regular
Dec 17, 2008
132
0
OT-
Or to the contrary...

He (or they) are keeping Paypal in business, and those clickers busy and helping our collapsing economy.

Look me up when you graduate, you marry, have kids, and support yourself and your family; oh and fall on your ass a few times in the working world.

I (as well as many others) may appreciate your values, but your high horse has no room in here.

End Rant.. Back to topic

Again, ignorance. You don't realize that those clickers could have been doing something else, something more productive. Those clickers are probably not clicking on American soil anyways.

In any case, I'm clearly not promoting myself. I'm trying to promote all of us and make all of us better off. Nowhere did I say that I was better than you, or that I'll never come to hardships in the workforce.
 

spacecadet610

macrumors 6502
Mar 11, 2006
389
4
My goodness this is getting ridiculous. You really think you are bettering the world by lecturing these poor macrumors members? You really do sound like a freshman, you know.

i hope we can stay on topic.
 

kinkster

macrumors 6502a
Sep 15, 2008
534
0
My goodness this is getting ridiculous. You really think you are bettering the world by lecturing these poor macrumors members? You really do sound like a freshman, you know.

i hope we can stay on topic.


I agree, this isn't the place to be calling people out for buying something with the guaranty that they'll be refunded by some large corp. Paypal/ebay probably won't lose out anyhow because they've got the money on hold, so stop complaining.

In any case the flaming will just get the thread locked.
 

bossxii

macrumors 68000
Nov 9, 2008
1,754
0
Kansas City
Again, ignorance. You don't realize that those clickers could have been doing something else, something more productive. Those clickers are probably not clicking on American soil anyways.

In any case, I'm clearly not promoting myself. I'm trying to promote all of us and make all of us better off. Nowhere did I say that I was better than you, or that I'll never come to hardships in the workforce.

Stachelsk.. My hope for you is you can live up to your own high standard. However since you stating your a freshman in college you clearly know everything about why the economy is failing. Kudo's to your great education, if your fortunate enough to pay cash for college then thank your parents over and over and over because your one of the lucky few that doesn't have student loans. The other 99% of us have (or had) loans, mortgages and bills to pay that tend to make us look for a good deal (even push the limit of what we think is legit or not). I did not purchase one of these MBA's from Ebay but I did look for a "deal" from an online store and it all worked out rather nicely.

If you owe any Debt at all, if you have ever downloaded a free song, movie, software or otherwise your nothing but a hypocrite and look ridiculous posting on these forums. I don't pretend to preach why the economy is failing, the list is too long. Yes people living beyond their means is part of it but not even close for the recent collapse of financial markets. Wall Street crooks, hedge funds, sub prime mortgages being sold to people who do not understand what they are getting into. When you goto buy a mortgage I'm sure you will read every single line of the contract and understand if 100% but there are millions of people who even if they did read it wont' fully understand the lingo.

The idea's you speak of are of a perfect world, a picture perfect economy that we will never see. Wages have not and will not keep up with prices of your basics (food, clothing & shelter) so your living in a fantasy world if you think you can get a job in the US and pay cash for the basic needs of an average family of 4. Please let us all know if you do, you will be a best selling author.

Life must be good living with blinders on!

Sorry for the off topic response but this was just to funny to pass up, a 20 year old preaching on the ways of the world.

Priceless!
 

mikey28

macrumors 6502
Aug 6, 2008
419
0
Actually, I do know what you need. You need food, shelter, clothing, and a few other basic necessities. Everything else, that's just what you want.

It matters to me because now there's a couple dozen of people at PayPal clicking away and resolving their own issues because of your failure to think before purchasing an item. You wasted somebody else's money, and it's all a circular process. If that person had been better off, his gain would have eventually tricked down to the rest of us. Now, instead, his loss is trickling down to the rest of us.

You are very idealistic. Very good. We need people like you. However, we also need compassion. What's done is done. They bought the computers. So instead of lecturing about milk that is already spilled. Be compassionate, and come help clean it up.
 

Stachelsk

macrumors regular
Dec 17, 2008
132
0
I just find it really ironic how you're all calling me an idealist when you're the ones who thought you were going to get a MBA Rev B, new and sealed for $1,000. I thought it was pretty realistic to assume that MBA's were roughly ~$1,800.

Anywho, carry on as you will. I suppose I'm completely and utterly blind to the world about me. I'll just pretend that everything's perfect when the economy is the worst its been in decades.

Carry on with your trolling about how you didn't get a MBA when you tried to cheat the market... I'll cease my posts here.
 

mikey28

macrumors 6502
Aug 6, 2008
419
0
I just find it really ironic how you're all calling me an idealist when you're the ones who thought you were going to get a MBA Rev B, new and sealed for $1,000. I thought it was pretty realistic to assume that MBA's were roughly ~$1,800.

Anywho, carry on as you will. I suppose I'm completely and utterly blind to the world about me. I'll just pretend that everything's perfect when the economy is the worst its been in decades.

Carry on with your trolling about how you didn't get a MBA when you tried to cheat the market... I'll cease my posts here.

Nooooo, you're not blind to the world. You are right. HOWEVER, you message comes across rudely, and preachy. So it is hard for others to want to hear you.....
 

NC MacGuy

macrumors 603
Feb 9, 2005
6,233
0
The good side of the grass.
I just find it really ironic how you're all calling me an idealist when you're the ones who thought you were going to get a MBA Rev B, new and sealed for $1,000. I thought it was pretty realistic to assume that MBA's were roughly ~$1,800.

Anywho, carry on as you will. I suppose I'm completely and utterly blind to the world about me. I'll just pretend that everything's perfect when the economy is the worst its been in decades.

Carry on with your trolling about how you didn't get a MBA when you tried to cheat the market... I'll cease my posts here.

It was $1199 and no S&H.:p
 

HiFiGuy528

macrumors 68000
Jul 24, 2008
1,875
64
Sorry to tell you guys that it is very unlikely that you will get what you paid for. Please see my post with the details on seller's Pay Pal account. He has (0) verified Pay Pal transactions since becoming a member for over a year is a HUGE red flag.

Seller did reply to my request to post pictures of the laptops with an apple on it. See screen shot of his reply. He is NOT a legit eBay seller. I put money on it!
 

spacecadet610

macrumors 6502
Mar 11, 2006
389
4
I've 100% given up. Just received another response

"dear ebay member.
let us thank you for your question regarding this matter.

we will notify you with tracking # soon , if your item didnt shipped today it will be shipped tomorrow.
best regards from all usedsnoopy teamwork."
 
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