Technically thunderbolt 3 can work on AMD
Are you talking about XConnect, because that's only for eGPUs. Or are you talking about the add-on cards available from third-party board makers that work with certain boards? Regardless, USB3.1C is going to become the defacto standard of large data in the next few years and Intel would be kicking themselves if they let go of the possibility of licensing per unit to AMD board makers.
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I must not have been clear. I saw that post myself on PCGN. What I meant to say that typically a personal SN like that is used on a lot of sites. When you google it in quotes, there's nothing apart from a few results on the SERP that refer to that post. I saw similar posts in the past. It's nothing new, just people stirring the pot. Intel can very well try something, but no one in their right mind will believe third party results if their own findings are vastly different. Any site engaging with Intel will get the full wrath of angry people. This isn't the late 90s anymore.
And this is post from another forum:
http://semiaccurate.com/forums/showpost.php?p=283640&postcount=7424
I cannot write about massive amount of things that happened in past... 3 days, but I can assure you, some things will get in the light of attention of the press, and some will not.
Everything can be summed up in few words: Intel headquarters are on fire.
Just pay attention...
Yeah. The Microcenter price cut was bull, though. As I stated in the morning, it's something they always do multiple times a year. They're a fantastic place to get your components from if you're near one. They also occasionally run Apple sales below Apple's MSRP. Way better
quality product selection than Fry's.
Intel isn't too worried right now. Their bread and butter is the enterprise and workstation market. Xeons. That's what gets the money flowing. If Ryzen consumer can translate well into their upcoming server class, you bet your ass **** will hit the fan at Intel HQ.
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Seems to me that Apple could very well get some deep discounts for high end Intel hardware to stay away from AMD CPUs thanks to Ryzen. As consumers that should hopefully translate to cheaper hardware later this year as Apple pass the savings on. Perhaps we might see an affordable Mac Pro later this year? If Intel can't clearly compete with CPU then Apple are well placed to continue their path of adding GPU power possibly through AMD Vega.
With all due respect, Intel can sell at cost or even less and lose money, but Apple will never pass on the savings. Never. Why would they? They can keep the same price and their profit will increase as a result of paying less.
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And lastly, Damage Control in full swing. I have just read that AMD has been accused of using Intel stock coolers for the tests. Well, AMD used their own stock coolers, that are available with the CPUs. And its definitely AMD's fault that Intel coolers are so f****** bad.
Quite true. Since my early Thunderbird, P4 and Athlon 64 days, I've bought plenty of Intels for myself and their coolers have always been awful. The last Intel cooler I got in a combo package had a fissure in a fin. I'm not sure why Intel or other people have been accusing AMD of using a subpar (stock) cooler on the Intel setups, when these Wraithe coolers, while not as good as true aftermarket ones, are very well engineered.
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Remember that Jim Keller, who previously worked on the A4 and A5 CPUs for Apple, moved back to AMD to help with that product so Tim Cook will have been well aware of the expertise going into Zen. Keller has now reportedly moved on to Tesla.
While this fuels a conspiracy theory that's been brewing on the net, I'm somewhat willing to buy into it. It makes a lot of sense. Someone said months ago the honeymoon for Intel and Apple may very well be over and Apple isn't benefiting from their relationship.
I still can't see Apple going with Zen as a CPU because of Thunderbolt (Intel could be seriously awkward about it) but they will be fully aware that the trickle of professionals abandoning the Mac Pro (and iMac) platforms for Windows could turn into more of a torrent if benchmarks show that reasonably priced 8 core computing is on the cards thanks to Ryzen.
I have a feeling Intel would be willing to license a per unit fee to mobo manufacturers. Who also make Intel boards, and they already likely pay that fee for the Intel boards that have TB3.
They might not be bothered by any losses for Mac Pro but computing on the iMac could be endangered by Ryzen-based all-in-one products later this year.
I can see the Ryzen 5 and 7 series being used in the iMac in the future. The Ryzen 3 series would be fantastic for the Mac Mini. I can see the 4/8 R3 being faster than quite a lot of launched, non-EoL i5s.
Interesting that you picked out a piece by Anand (who has joined Apple). If his insights are valuable to Apple they will recognise his original remarks on the
new Mac Pro in 2013. He spotted the
bottlenecks inherent in the system. Others have spotted issues with thermal paste, BIOS in the graphics making them unexpandable amongst other design or manufacturing flaws.
Never saw this article. Thanks for posting.
Thunderbolt is not locked from AMD. Motherboard manufacturers would have to pay for each Alpine Ridge controller, and that would add another 20-25$ to the motherboard price.
Yep, and board makers already pay that fee per unit for mobos that contain TB3 functionality.
