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Zarniwoop

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koyoot said:
https://mobile.twitter.com/CPCHardware/status/843099198799187968
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Ryzen 16C/32T, X399, within 4/6 months. Clocks ~2.4/2.8GHz. 2 dies MCM. 4 chan DDR4. Socket LGA SP3r2.

~150W

150W! Apple could shoehorn that into nMP case.
[doublepost=1489940155][/doublepost]So, how about WWDC 2017 macOS 10.13 introduction that has some new killer features that only new hardware can run... "welcome our demo machine MP 2017!" - available with macOS 10.13 in fall.
 
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Zarniwoop said:
Ryzen 16C/32T, X399, within 4/6 months. Clocks ~2.4/2.8GHz. 2 dies MCM. 4 chan DDR4. Socket LGA SP3r2.

~150W

150W! Apple could shoehorn that into nMP case.
[doublepost=1489940155][/doublepost]So, how about WWDC 2017 macOS 10.13 introduction that has some new killer features that only new hardware can run... "welcome our demo machine MP 2017!" - available with macOS 10.13 in fall.
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As long as the Mac Pro and Mac mini get updated, I don't really mind if they continue with Intel or switch to AMD. One thing's for sure, if neither are updated by October of this year, they're both dead.
 
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If this is true AMD is really following Intel's naming conventions. X399 should be reserved for next-next gen PCH. Was this on purpose? Hell yeah.
Also, RZ27xx and 47xx sound a lot like Xeon E5-2xxx or 4xxx.
I understand it's easier to remember, and it's kinda logical, but come on, creativity is in order even if just not to be accused of copying. Anyway, chipsets are quite weak. I wonder who makes these?!
 
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  • Zen HEDT CPU's are supposedly called "Threadripper"
  • Each CPU will include 64 PCIe Lanes
  • 4 CCX design
  • Lower SKU (Probably 12c/24t) 140W TDP, Higher SKU (Probably 16c/32t) 180W TDP.
  • Socket will be SP3 LGA
  • Platform's name will probably be X399
  • Chips will be B2 revisions.
  • 32MB L3 Cache
  • ES's are 3,3 or 3,4 Ghz base and 3,7 Ghz Boost
  • It is aimed for Retail SKU to have 3,6 Base/4 Ghz Boost (!!!)
  • ES's that are in the wild have 2500 CB R15.
  • Infinity Fabric can have a bandwidth up to 100GB/S
  • Announcement; COMPUTEX at Taiwan, sales will start after 2-3 weeks following COMPUTEX. (so... late June 2017)
It will be interesting to see if Apple will go for those CPUs.
 
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So I keep hearing that Ryzen is awesome and is setting records, but I've seen some tests that an i7 beats it.
Can someone help me clear up the ******** about it? I want to know whether or not Ryzen is all it's cracked up to be.
 
Michael Scrip

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JMacHack said:
So I keep hearing that Ryzen is awesome and is setting records, but I've seen some tests that an i7 beats it.
Can someone help me clear up the ******** about it? I want to know whether or not Ryzen is all it's cracked up to be.
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It depends on what you are looking for.

Ryzen 7 is great with multi-threaded workloads... rendering video, etc. It can be as fast as $1,000 Intel chips.

Intel Core i7 is faster at single-threaded workloads since it has a higher clockspeed. This makes it faster in gaming since games rarely use many cores.

Basically... if you want fast video encoding... Ryzen is great.

However... if you want the most frames-per-second in games... get an Intel Core i7
 
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Michael Scrip said:
It depends on what you are looking for.

Ryzen 7 is great with multi-threaded workloads... rendering video, etc. It can be as fast as $1,000 Intel chips.

Intel Core i7 is faster at single-threaded workloads since it has a higher clockspeed. This makes it faster in gaming since games rarely use many cores.

Basically... if you want fast video encoding... Ryzen is great.

However... if you want the most frames-per-second in games... get an Intel Core i7
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Basically yes, however. Gaming looks to be somewhat sketchy scenario right now for Ryzen, and it appears that games are not able to fully utilize the CPUs, on draw call front, and there is matter of CCX communication, that is heavily dependent on RAM performance. The faster RAM you have, the better results you will see.

Overall in scientific, engineering, and professional workloads we are looking at the same levels of performance per clock in ST as Intel Haswell-E/Broadwell-E, but with higher efficiency on Ryzen CPUs. In gaming, next generation Games will show higher parity with higher core count Intel CPUs.

And this should picture how big outliers you can have in gaming.
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Michael Scrip said:
It depends on what you are looking for.

Ryzen 7 is great with multi-threaded workloads... rendering video, etc. It can be as fast as $1,000 Intel chips.

Intel Core i7 is faster at single-threaded workloads since it has a higher clockspeed. This makes it faster in gaming since games rarely use many cores.

Basically... if you want fast video encoding... Ryzen is great.

However... if you want the most frames-per-second in games... get an Intel Core i7
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That is the current state of affairs, with games not being optimized to run on 2 CCX (which would have some commonality with consoles).
 
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