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bsbeamer

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There are issues with sleep and RX 5700 XT being reported in macOS 10.15.2 and would assume the same applies to RX 5700. Not sure this will be fixed in 10.15.3 either, if early beta reports are to be believed. I am guessing the W5700X release will address a lot of this, but no indication that will arrive before 10.15.3 public release.
 
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sk0n3_jp

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There are issues with sleep and RX 5700 XT being reported in macOS 10.15.2 and would assume the same applies to RX 5700. Not sure this will be fixed in 10.15.3 either, if early beta reports are to be believed. I am guessing the W5700X release will address a lot of this, but no indication that will arrive before 10.15.3 public release.

hmm..okay, is that sleep for the mac itself or the screen? Because I disable sleep for the mac device itself.
 

bsbeamer

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Believe reports are machine sleep, BUT have not tested this personally. Also will note there are major issues with sleep, power nap, and reopen windows on login preferences being ignored in 10.15.2 on MBP 16,1. Some speculation it’s due to 5500M drivers. No response on bug report submissions yet.
 
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sk0n3_jp

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Believe reports are machine sleep, BUT have not tested this personally. Also will note there are major issues with sleep, power nap, and reopen windows on login preferences being ignored in 10.15.2 on MBP 16,1. Some speculation it’s due to 5500M drivers. No response on bug report submissions yet.

Thank you for that insight, I'll be on the look out for that report
 

Ludacrisvp

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Your panic calls out an IO SCSI DEVICE in the stack. So what kind of hardware besides the AMD card are in this Mac.
Sounds like a hard drive of some kind isn’t playing ball here.
 

corelle

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With the launch of the Radeon RX 5700, AMD has delivered an updated card that appears to work within the 4,1 / 5,1 cMP's power capabilities,(75 watts - PCIe slot, 75 watts - PCIe aux1, 75 watts PCIe aux 2) without having to make the power supply mod.

Yes I can cirmfirm RX5700 single 8 pin work.

cinema 30" will not active first time
need another HDMI monitor to choose.

And RX5700 won't be detected unless force install BootCampDrivers.com self contain Adrenalin 2020 edition Drivers.
 

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sk0n3_jp

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10.15.3 is in general release, anyone tried it with a 5700, plain or XT?

I have a 5700XT BIOS flashed 5700 on my device and it seems like the drivers were tweaked or optimized for 10.15.3 probably because Apple is planning on adding 5700 GPU for their Mac Pro 2019 soon. The idle usage of my GPU seems to be about 2-5% lower than of 10.15.2, but nothing substantial I can observe. It may just be circumstantial as well...

I can't attest to any professional creative apps crashing since I'm a poor college student on debt lol
 

CMMChris

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At least the wake from sleep crashes are gone in 10.15.3 on my Hackintosh. Anyhow, drivers still have issues. For some specific cards there still are reports of random crashes or freezes. And it also looks like all cards are still affected by some general instability in certain use cases (FCPX crashes during longer editing sessions, crashes when editing images in Apple Photos). I also still observe graphics glitches in some games like Dirt 4 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider.

I have now mounted my Radeon VII back in and will sell my RX 5700 XT. I bought it just for beta testing but I am sick and tired of it. I have 6 bug reports open with Apple and none of them has got any attention, most of the ugly bugs don't seem to get fixed. So for me just a waste of time to continue beta testing. Apple simply doesn't care. It really looks like all they care about is to get the drivers working "just good enough" for their own products but they simply don't care about third party stuff. I don't get why they even offer eGPU support if they don't care about the drivers at all.

All of this reminds me about the Vega10 (Vega 56 / 64) disaster where it took them well over a year to finally push drivers that are working properly (proper power state switching, fan control, etc...).
 
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star-affinity

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At least the wake from sleep crashes are gone in 10.15.3 on my Hackintosh. Anyhow, drivers still have issues. For some specific cards there still are reports of random crashes or freezes. And it also looks like all cards are still affected by some general instability in certain use cases (FCPX crashes during longer editing sessions, crashes when editing images in Apple Photos). I also still observe graphics glitches in some games like Dirt 4 and Shadow of the Tomb Raider.

I have now mounted my Radeon VII back in and will sell my RX 5700 XT. I bought it just for beta testing but I am sick and tired of it. I have 6 bug reports open with Apple and none of them has got any attention, most of the ugly bugs don't seem to get fixed. So for me just a waste of time to continue beta testing. Apple simply doesn't care. It really looks like all they care about is to get the drivers working "just good enough" for their own products but they simply don't care about third party stuff. I don't get why they even offer eGPU support if they don't care about the drivers at all.

All of this reminds me about the Vega10 (Vega 56 / 64) disaster where it took them well over a year to finally push drivers that are working properly (proper power state switching, fan control, etc...).

Not saying Apple shouldn't care more about graphics drivers, but things on the Windows side of things with the RX 5700 XT isn't exactly flawless either: https://community.amd.com/thread/243837?messageTarget=all&start=2475&mode=comments

Since moving from NVIDIA GTX 1070 to AMD RX 5700 XT I've had many stability issues in Windows that I never saw when using the NVIDIA card. The current Windows 10 drivers from AMD seems to work quite well for me, but I still have the problem when waking the computer from sleeps gives me a black screen and after 30 seconds or so the computer restarts (i.e. a crash occurred). This is similar to how things behave for me in MacOS Catalina (10.15.4 as of this writing) where it happens (although more seldom than in Windows) that the computer wakes up to a black screen that never turns on. Haven't had any stability issues with RX 5700 XT in MacOS while using the computer, though. In Windows 10 I've had several lockups and black screens, but like I said the latest (currently 20.3.1) AMD drivers seem to have helped.
 

Ludacrisvp

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I still wonder what makes this card compelling over previous AMD cards that are stable and from what I recall (maybe just due to bad drivers on windows and macOS) is able to outperform the 5700 variants.
 

Earl Urley

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Clearly they rushed the card to market given the sad conditions both Mac and Windows drivers are in.
 

jgleigh

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Does anyone know if you can fit the PowerColor Red Dragon Radeon RX 5700 XT into a MacPro 5,1 when also using the EVGA PowerLink? Based on rough measurements it seems like a tight fit, but I wanted to see if anyone had actually tried it successfully.

I'm currently using the 5700 XT reference card and the fan is a little noisier than I like.

 
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joevt

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Does anyone know if you can fit the PowerColor Red Dragon Radeon RX 5700 XT into a MacPro 5,1 when also using the EVGA PowerLink? Based on rough measurements it seems like a tight fit, but I wanted to see if anyone had actually tried it successfully.

I'm currently using the 5700 XT reference card and the fan is a little noisier than I like.
Amazon says the length of the card is 300 mm. Wikipedia says a PCIe card max length is 312 mm. That doesn't leave a lot of room for the EVGA PowerLink plus the depth of the power cable connectors. Maybe the cavity in the fan housing will have space for the power cable connectors?
 

jgleigh

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Amazon says the length of the card is 300 mm. Wikipedia says a PCIe card max length is 312 mm. That doesn't leave a lot of room for the EVGA PowerLink plus the depth of the power cable connectors. Maybe the cavity in the fan housing will have space for the power cable connectors?

Amazon's description is wrong. They copied the description from the Red Devil (the three fan model). The card is 240mm long, so will easily fit length-wise. I'm worried about the width. The width is listed at 132mm. The PowerLink is about 25mm. That's getting VERY close to the door depending on exactly how the measurements line up.

Update: I just found the normal PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT. It's only 111mm wide which should easily fit into the MacPro 5,1 case.
 
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