Android L is now smoother, faster, nicer looking than iOS

[mib1800]

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I don't use my phone like you do. I use my phone as a communication device with family; FaceTime, imessage, and to support my business. Rarely go on youtube, take a ton of pictures of which the 5s camera is highly rated and support my business.

IOS makes all of this very simple for me.

I agree Facetime/imessage is a good thing on ios. Unfortunately the walled garden of Apple virtually makes it useless to a lot of people. Maybe all your family/friends/business live in apple walled garden but in the real world there are many who don't. And apple being apple (always revengeful) give hell to those people who want to leave imessage.

5s camera does well in point and shoot. But from all the reviews I have read, it takes around the same picture quality as any other flagships. Downside of ios camera is just that it is just too basic in functions (i.e. you can't use it for any other purpose other than point and shoot).

 

[I7guy]

I agree Facetime/imessage is a good thing on ios. Unfortunately the walled garden of Apple virtually makes it useless to a lot of people. Maybe all your family/friends/business live in apple walled garden but in the real world there are many who don't. And apple being apple (always revengeful) give hell to those people who want to leave imessage.

5s camera does well in point and shoot. But from all the reviews I have read, it takes around the same picture quality as any other flagships. Downside of ios camera is just that it is just too basic in functions (i.e. you can't use it for any other purpose other than point and shoot).

Well other than panorama or slow mo, or hdr or burst. Or ae/af lock etc. Not really any downside, the video is very good also. I have hours of video I've taken and shared with friends and family. It's true the picture editing features are now external to the camera app. Oh well.

As far as the real world, many fortune 500 companies are now apple for the most part. That's the real world. Yeah somebody is going to chime in and say my company has android....well that why I said for the most part. iphone stepped in to the space Blackberry used to inhabit.

 

[pdqgp]

Also you're right. The default statement is usually "check out my new app in the app store. As for Android users, we're working on it"

I've never encountered an app that I've wanted not being available at the Play Store.

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there were too many apps I rely on that either didn't have android versions or had lousy Android versions, so I'm back on iOS for now.

Would help if you'd post those specific apps.

 

[The-Real-Deal82]

I've never encountered an app that I've wanted not being available at the Play Store.

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Would help if you'd post those specific apps.

When I was on Android between 2009 and 2012 it was more of a common occurrence, but not so much now as Android users don't have such a problem with paying for apps these days so the availability is generally on both.

 

[kevinof]

Nonsense.

I live in the city of London , a place full of fortune 500 companies, and I can tell you by just opening my eyes that it's about 60% Android and the rest Apple and ... Blackberry. All I have to do is look at the phones in peoples hands , on the tables. Apple may have stepped in where Blackberry was , but Blackberry had lost the crown a long time ago.

That's the real world.

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As far as the real world, many fortune 500 companies are now apple for the most part. That's the real world. Yeah somebody is going to chime in and say my company has android....well that why I said for the most part. iphone stepped in to the space Blackberry used to inhabit.

 

[pdqgp]

When I was on Android between 2009 and 2012 it was more of a common occurrence, but not so much now as Android users don't have such a problem with paying for apps these days so the availability is generally on both.

ok. make sense.

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Nonsense.

I live in the city of London , a place full of fortune 500 companies, and I can tell you by just opening my eyes that it's about 60% Android and the rest Apple and ... Blackberry. All I have to do is look at the phones in peoples hands , on the tables. Apple may have stepped in where Blackberry was , but Blackberry had lost the crown a long time ago.

That's the real world.

I agree, Apple didn't move in and take over Blackberry users completely. We have about 4,000 people worldwide, and it's about 60/40 Apple/Android. IT doesn't care which is used. The thing they like about Apple is they take less calls because the phones are more basic/more simple to use from a lay persons standpoint. Our Droid users are usually more advanced users though, so it's not like they are creating more help tickets.

In the end I know our plan is to move to a mobile PC and get away from iPads. The surface pro, etc. line up make most sense as it will eliminate that device completely and afford us smaller PC's yet the power of one in our hands. Docking stations, larger monitors, use of a mouse, etc. are all there too.

 

[Bahroo]

Been following all the early reviews and the new features are fantastic, but L also looks nicer, better designed and smoother/faster than iOS or WP, while of course having a ton more features and customizability. Its amazing!

Scrolling in Lollipop on the Nexus 6 still doesnt look as smooth as iOS and doesnt seem to follow the finger still not as well as iOS does according to few 60 fps videos of the Nexus 6 that I seen on Youtube, which is actually a dam shame, Lollipop is most certainly not smoother....aaaand congratsulations Android fans....you finally, FINALLY have a OS that is quite smooth and responsive and snappy, like iOS, Its been only about years yall have been waiting for this lmao

Thats cool, and now SEL Linux is going to be standard in Lollipop, which was all made and coded by the NSA to "add security" in Android but who really believes that?

 

[Tinmania]

Scrolling in Lollipop on the Nexus 6 still doesnt look as smooth as iOS and doesnt seem to follow the finger still not as well as iOS does according to few 60 fps videos of the Nexus 6 that I seen on Youtube, which is actually a dam shame, Lollipop is most certainly not smoother....aaaand congratsulations Android fans....you finally, FINALLY have a OS that is quite smooth and responsive and snappy, like iOS, Its been only about years yall have been waiting for this lmao

Yea I think you said that in 2012.



Mike

 

[Bahroo]

I agree Facetime/imessage is a good thing on ios. Unfortunately the walled garden of Apple virtually makes it useless to a lot of people. Maybe all your family/friends/business live in apple walled garden but in the real world there are many who don't. And apple being apple (always revengeful) give hell to those people who want to leave imessage.

5s camera does well in point and shoot. But from all the reviews I have read, it takes around the same picture quality as any other flagships. Downside of ios camera is just that it is just too basic in functions (i.e. you can't use it for any other purpose other than point and shoot).

Walled garden lol? There is countless messaging applications on iOS, And you only get Imessage and Facetime on iOS, i have Google Hangouts, Whatsapp, kik, etc all on my phone so where does the walled garden approach come from? There is nothing like iMessage, not even Google Hangouts on Android is as good, there is no comparison here

Hint, you dont HAVE to use iMessage, you have countless other choices, you can send HD videos and photos over iMessage, you cant even send videos on Hangouts (but actually you can only on iOS actually go figure lol)

And I have a one dollar app called Camera+ that has countless camera controls and I have tons of controls on the camera, you can use other apps then the stock Camera app and get all those options , iPhones are the best point and shoot camera smartphones on the market

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Yea I think you said that in 2012.



Mike

And unfortunetly it still stands to this day..my Nexus 7 tablet running 4.4.4 on ART mode is smooth , but no where consistently as smooth as a iOS device and in a good amount of applications it is not really smooth

 

[I7guy]

Nonsense.

I live in the city of London , a place full of fortune 500 companies, and I can tell you by just opening my eyes that it's about 60% Android and the rest Apple and ... Blackberry. All I have to do is look at the phones in peoples hands , on the tables. Apple may have stepped in where Blackberry was , but Blackberry had lost the crown a long time ago.

That's the real world.

Absolutely, nonsense. Maybe in the UK but different in the US for managed vs unmanaged smartphones.

But I don't believe this android is prevalent nonsense due to the management tools that are available on each platform. No company wants its sensitive data on unsecured devices.

 

[mercuryjones]

Walled garden lol? There is countless messaging applications on iOS, And you only get Imessage and Facetime on iOS, i have Google Hangouts, Whatsapp, kik, etc all on my phone so where does the walled garden approach come from? There is nothing like iMessage, not even Google Hangouts on Android is as good, there is no comparison here

Hint, you dont HAVE to use iMessage, you have countless other choices, you can send HD videos and photos over iMessage, you cant even send videos on Hangouts (but actually you can only on iOS actually go figure lol)

And I have a one dollar app called Camera+ that has countless camera controls and I have tons of controls on the camera, you can use other apps then the stock Camera app and get all those options , iPhones are the best point and shoot camera smartphones on the market

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And unfortunetly it still stands to this day..my Nexus 7 tablet running 4.4.4 on ART mode is smooth , but no where consistently as smooth as a iOS device and in a good amount of applications it is not really smooth

What I find funny, is that when you say that iOS has a certain option that you can't find on Android, users of Android will come out and say that you can get XYZ app to match it. However, when it goes the other way, they simply state that iOS doesn't have it in the stock app and that using a 3rd party app is stupid or idiotic.

 

[Bahroo]

What I find funny, is that when you say that iOS has a certain option that you can't find on Android, users of Android will come out and say that you can get XYZ app to match it. However, when it goes the other way, they simply state that iOS doesn't have it in the stock app and that using a 3rd party app is stupid or idiotic.

Who and why is a 3rd party application is stupid? Who has ever said that? Like Steve Jobs said, "theres a app for that" , the person I quoted is talking about how "oh not everyone has iMessage" like ok that has absolutely no relevancy to anything nor does it even apply to anything because there are countless messaging options on iOS you can use(skype, hangouts, imessage, kik, BBM, and so much more)

 

[g0df4th3r]

Absolutely, nonsense. Maybe in the UK but different in the US for managed vs unmanaged smartphones.

But I don't believe this android is prevalent nonsense due to the management tools that are available on each platform. No company wants its sensitive data on unsecured devices.

I work for a Fortune 500 company and we have Galaxy Note 3 and S5 for company phones because of Knox. I don't know where you get your figures about US companies being mostly iPhone users. I'm seeing more of a 49/49 split between iOS and Android with the remaining 2% being Blackberry.

 

[I7guy]

I work for a Fortune 500 company and we have Galaxy Note 3 and S5 for company phones because of Knox. I don't know where you get your figures about US companies being mostly iPhone users. I'm seeing more of a 49/49 split between iOS and Android with the remaining 2% beinbg Blackberry.

right your company, I don't know where you get your figures from either.

 

[jrswizzle]

I work for a Fortune 500 company and we have Galaxy Note 3 and S5 for company phones because of Knox. I don't know where you get your figures about US companies being mostly iPhone users. I'm seeing more of a 49/49 split between iOS and Android with the remaining 2% being Blackberry.

right your company, I don't know where you get your figures from either.

These are the latest figures I could find.....admittedly, I don't really care about your squabble so I didn't look too terribly hard. Just wanted someone to finally throw up a source as opposed to the anecdotal evidence being bandied about as fact.

For your reading pleasure:

http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2014/0...-android-grows-32-windows-phone-stays-flat-1/

A couple of things:

-This is a worldwide study
-This is including tablets....all mobile devices
-Android is gaining

I'll also throw out there, if anyone's anecdotal evidence should be taken most seriously, it should be mine (should I choose to provide it) given my state is home to a tenth of the Fortune 500 companies. And my city has roughly a third of those.

 

[mercuryjones]

These are the latest figures I could find.....admittedly, I don't really care about your squabble so I didn't look too terribly hard. Just wanted someone to finally throw up a source as opposed to the anecdotal evidence being bandied about as fact.

For your reading pleasure:

http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2014/0...-android-grows-32-windows-phone-stays-flat-1/

A couple of things:

-This is a worldwide study
-This is including tablets....all mobile devices
-Android is gaining

Considering the marketshare that Android has, I'm shocked to find that it wasn't more than that.

 

[gotluck]

ios needs to care about windows continuity for enterprise!

its such an awesome feature and most companies can't use it at all

 

[I7guy]

These are the latest figures I could find.....admittedly, I don't really care about your squabble so I didn't look too terribly hard. Just wanted someone to finally throw up a source as opposed to the anecdotal evidence being bandied about as fact.

For your reading pleasure:

http://thenextweb.com/mobile/2014/0...-android-grows-32-windows-phone-stays-flat-1/

A couple of things:

-This is a worldwide study
-This is including tablets....all mobile devices
-Android is gaining

I'll also throw out there, if anyone's anecdotal evidence should be taken most seriously, it should be mine (should I choose to provide it) given my state is home to a tenth of the Fortune 500 companies. And my city has roughly a third of those.

Thank you for proving my point. 67 vs 32 is a commanding lead in my book.

Or you could look at the macrumors front page article.

Or you could look at appleinsider and see IOS holds 88% share of enterprise apps. Either that was my original point.

 

[pdqgp]

Considering the marketshare that Android has, I'm shocked to find that it wasn't more than that.

Lots of iPads deployed. It's rare to android tablets in use.

 

[mercuryjones]

Lots of iPads deployed. It's rare to android tablets in use.

Is this only tablet usage or OS usage? Big difference. I would suspect that Apple would hold a considerable market share lead there.

 

[jrswizzle]

Lots of iPads deployed. It's rare to android tablets in use.

Yup - the split of their 67% is 51% iPhones, 16% iPads. Android is pretty much all 32% smartphones.

 

[pdqgp]

Yup - the split of their 67% is 51% iPhones, 16% iPads. Android is pretty much all 32% smartphones.

the 32/51 number doesn't surprise me. I know if our IT Dept had their way they'd support as few models of phones as they could. Easy with an iPhone as there's pretty much only one phone/OS with little differences.

I know we are about 60/40% phone wise out of 4,000 people because I've asked our IT Folks before. Tablet wise we're about 90/10 iPads/Windows based tablets. I was told these iPad Airs will be our last go-round though as we'll be moving to some Surface Tablet like from one of the major players in the near future.

 

[jrswizzle]

the 32/51 number doesn't surprise me. I know if our IT Dept had their way they'd support as few models of phones as they could. Easy with an iPhone as there's pretty much only one phone/OS with little differences.

I know we are about 60/40% phone wise out of 4,000 people because I've asked our IT Folks before. Tablet wise we're about 90/10 iPads/Windows based tablets. I was told these iPad Airs will be our last go-round though as we'll be moving to some Surface Tablet like from one of the major players in the near future.

I wish my company would replace my laptop with a Surface Pro 3.....this thing is slow as molasses and irritating to carry around. If I have to be on Windows, at least make it something that's efficient and easy to use/carry.

(I'm in sales and travel a lot)

 

[hollandog]

Walled garden lol? There is countless messaging applications on iOS, And you only get Imessage and Facetime on iOS, i have Google Hangouts, Whatsapp, kik, etc all on my phone so where does the walled garden approach come from? There is nothing like iMessage, not even Google Hangouts on Android is as good, there is no comparison here

Hint, you dont HAVE to use iMessage, you have countless other choices, you can send HD videos and photos over iMessage, you cant even send videos on Hangouts (but actually you can only on iOS actually go figure lol)

And I have a one dollar app called Camera+ that has countless camera controls and I have tons of controls on the camera, you can use other apps then the stock Camera app and get all those options , iPhones are the best point and shoot camera smartphones on the market


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And unfortunetly it still stands to this day..my Nexus 7 tablet running 4.4.4 on ART mode is smooth , but no where consistently as smooth as a iOS device and in a good amount of applications it is not really smooth

weird my company's iPad Retina lags like hell ever since I upgraded it to iOS 7. Now iOS 8 and no improvement on performance.

 

[macrem]

Wow, the misinformation about Apple is strong up in here. I understand many people are frustrated that "Lollipop" is coming soon but they are not even sure if/when it will be supported on their devices...

iOS 8 was available on existing devices even before new devices like the iPhone 6 hit the shelves. I hope it (Lollipop) smooths out the terrible studdering on my Nexus 7 (2012) whenever it finally becomes available on my device. I bought the Nexus 7 with the understanding it would get all Android updates immediately but that was a lie -- I will get it faster than most Android users, many of whom might have to buy new devices in order to suck on their lollipops. In the meantime iOS devices are buttery smooth with awesome new features