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mib1800

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Yes, Android does indeed have more utility and tinkering apps than iOS. Their Top 20 lists are....interesting.

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Perhaps, but I gave concrete examples with apps I was using and compared them directly to OS. This was while I was on the S4 whenever that launched. Android seriously lacks camera and photo and video apps. I lasted 6 months with that. It's just too clunky of a system, but I was convinced it was Touchwiz. I'm hoping that L is the best Android yet. I'm seriously looking at the Nexus 6 if Apple doesn't fix this horrendous iOS 8 junk.

The reason why ios has so many camera apps is because the built in one is crap. If you have a built in camera app like the one I have on my note 4, there isn't much leeway that 3rd party can compete.

Same for photo and video apps.
 

Razeus

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I'm a long time iOS user, but just spent a month on Android, Sony Xperia with kit kat. I actually preferred Android, but there were too many apps I rely on that either didn't have android versions or had lousy Android versions, so I'm back on iOS for now.

Exactly. When I was on Android, the apps felt like, "oh, let's just get this out and fix it up later. We have to get the iOS version out first". I already gave examples of my most used apps being subpar, which pretty much ruined my first Android experience.
 

alex2792

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I've used android and ios extensively and never had problems finding apps on either platform. Nowadays most apps pretty much look and work identically and many are actually better on android. I also can't stand the fact that I have to jailbreak the iPhone to run popcorntime and torrent clients, such a PITA.
 

mib1800

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Exactly. When I was on Android, the apps felt like, "oh, let's just get this out and fix it up later. We have to get the iOS version out first". I already gave examples of my most used apps being subpar, which pretty much ruined my first Android experience.

But most major mainstream apps that many people use are at least equivalent or better on android. Android version usually contains more functionalities including background processing, interaction with other apps, intent processing, data sharing, widget support, multi tasking and multi or floating window support.

e.g Dropbox, Map, YouTube, whatsapp, Chrome, Facebook, gmail
 

gotluck

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How could the functionality be less relevant because of the os? It's more so you are just okay with not having the functionality, which is fine

For example soundcloud can import directly into your music library in android, but on ios you must always play from the soundcloud app due to ios limitations.
 

I7guy

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Let's take the list point by point:

1. Background processing: don't need it the 64 bit processors are blazing fast.
2. Interaction with other apps: yes some of my apps interact with other apps.
3. Intent processing: meh on this.
4. Data sharing: no file system makes it more difficult, but it's not impossible.
5. Widget support: like wut in ios8.
6. Multi tasking: see above comment.
7. Multi window: got me there, iphone doesn't do multi windows.

So all in all its a draw.
 

Oletros

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Functionality that is much less relevant on IOS and that doesn't necessarily increase the quality of the apps.

Exactly why is much less relevant?
And why doesn't increase the quality of the apps?

I suppose that 3rd party keyboards was one of those functionalities less relevants on iOS until iOS 8
 

mercuryjones

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Exactly. Some people are excited about 3rd party keyboards. I have no use for them.
Exactly. Contrary to what the Android faithful believe, not everyone using an iOS device is clamoring for 3rd party keyboards and share extensions. Oh, and widgets.
Some people just like to use their phone in the manner they want to use their phone.
 

gotluck

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That's all fine and dandy but the functionality is not irrelevant just because you don't care.

How very self centered.

Mercuryjones and i7guys posts in this subforum can essentially be summarized as, I don't care about that!
 

The-Real-Deal82

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Exactly. Some people are excited about 3rd party keyboards. I have no use for them.
I am glad iOS has allowed 3rd party keyboards because it has given me the opportunity to try them out. I downloaded Swype which cost me 69p and Swiftkey which was free. Having used both of these alternatives it has given me a different perspective as I have seen the cause for 3rd party keyboards pushed a lot on here. I have to say it has made me realise how good the default iOS keyboard is and my only regret is I can't get a refund for Swype! I didn't like the fact I was told the app collected data on the things I type and emails and passwords may be at risk. Not a great start and it didn't get any better. But still I had the choice and it gave me a taste even if they were rubbish. :)
 

I7guy

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Okay, and on the other hand, you're self centered because you can't see another's point of view. Why when discussing technology not everybody's priorities match your own.

Great so gotluck posts in this forum and if anybody doesn't see his/her point of view they are labeled as self centered.
 

gotluck

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Okay, and on the other hand, you're self centered because you can't see another's point of view. Why when discussing technology not everybody's priorities match your own.

Great so gotluck posts in this forum and if anybody doesn't see his/her point of view they are labeled as self centered.

Hardly, I'm all for simplified os for people to grasp easily.

I'm not all for denying more advanced features to those who want them, thankfully apple is beginning to agree with that with things like extensions and iCloud drive's take on file system access.

Tldr: I'm all for easy mode, but don't make everyone use easy mode. I hate catering to the lowest common denominator. Your viewpoint is fine, just don't make me use it. You will never have to agree with me, just don't use the features, ignore them.

People complaining about additional features will always baffle me

How does anyone manage to use OSX? I mean you are granted endless options and full administrator rights and can do essentially whatever you want. The horror!
 
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I7guy

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Hardly, I'm all for simplified os for people to grasp easily.

I'm not all for denying more advanced features to those who want them, thankfully apple is beginning to agree with that with things like extensions and iCloud drive's take on file system access.

Tldr: I'm all for easy mode, but don't make everyone use easy mode. I hate catering to the lowest common denominator. Your viewpoint is fine, just don't make me use it. You will never have to agree with me, just don't use the features, ignore them.

People complaining about additional features will always baffle me

Can't be both ways, more options always lead to more complexity. When it comes to my phone, simpler is better and thankfully I have a choice in the platform.

You like lots of options and you have a choice. I don't care about you seem is important butnyou seem to deride my overriding goal, which is simplicity. Even it it means my workflow takes longer than yours. Because I spend very little time customizing my phone I don't care if something takes a click longer, or that a process doesn't use true background processing.
 

gotluck

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Can't be both ways, more options always lead to more complexity. When it comes to my phone, simpler is better and thankfully I have a choice in the platform.

You like lots of options and you have a choice. I don't care about you seem is important butnyou seem to deride my overriding goal, which is simplicity. Even it it means my workflow takes longer than yours. Because I spend very little time customizing my phone I don't care if something takes a click longer, or that a process doesn't use true background processing.

If more options leads to complexity, how do you explain osx's ease of use? People love to say its easy to use, yet it is chok full of options,full file system access, gives full admin rights and complete freedom.
 

I7guy

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If more options leads to complexity, how do you explain osx's ease of use? People love to say its easy to use, yet it is chok full of options, gives full admin rights and complete freedom.

We're talking about mobile operating systems. Ubuntu as a desktop example isn't especially easy to set up yet it's easy to use.
 

mercuryjones

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Hardly, I'm all for simplified os for people to grasp easily.

I'm not all for denying more advanced features to those who want them, thankfully apple is beginning to agree with that with things like extensions and iCloud drive's take on file system access.

Tldr: I'm all for easy mode, but don't make everyone use easy mode. I hate catering to the lowest common denominator. Your viewpoint is fine, just don't make me use it. You will never have to agree with me, just don't use the features, ignore them.

People complaining about additional features will always baffle me

How does anyone manage to use OSX? I mean you are granted endless options and full administrator rights and can do essentially whatever you want. The horror!
I'm not saying I'm against the "complexity" added to the OS. I'm simply saying that not everyone was waiting for it. As stated, Android users seem to think that now that they are available, everyone is grateful and will use them. I do use some of the new enhancements, but I can just as easily get by without them. My wife and kids don't care for them, and continue to use their devices with no issues whatsoever. However, if you read the overall tone of the comments against iOS, they are just missing out on everything that's good in the world.
 

Oletros

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Okay, and on the other hand, you're self centered because you can't see another's point of view. Why when discussing technology not everybody's priorities match your own.

Great so gotluck posts in this forum and if anybody doesn't see his/her point of view they are labeled as self centered.

No, the one self centered is you, you're the one stating that anything you don't use is irrelevant.

And yes, gotluck is right, he doesn't say what is relevant or not, what you should use or not, You're the one that has stated that everything you dont know or understand is írrelevant.
 

mib1800

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Can't be both ways, more options always lead to more complexity. When it comes to my phone, simpler is better and thankfully I have a choice in the platform.

You like lots of options and you have a choice. I don't care about you seem is important butnyou seem to deride my overriding goal, which is simplicity. Even it it means my workflow takes longer than yours. Because I spend very little time customizing my phone I don't care if something takes a click longer, or that a process doesn't use true background processing.

That's a very naive point of view. Ios doesn't easily support file attachment in email doesn't mean it is simpler than the one that does. In fact it is more complex due to workarounds needed.

Having YouTube play in a popup window doesn't add to the complexity of using YouTube but greatly improve the end user experience.

In android Dropbox it is easier to just click an option in settings to set auto upload photos than on ios where you need to configure the background refresh and as well as Dropbox settings.

Using Facebook chat head on android allows you follow the conversation easily whereas in iOS you have to click the notification then bring up Facebook to reply and then use switch back to your previous app.

So the above show with more capabilities in android in fact makes things simpler not more complex. Whereas not having capabilities in fact make ios much more complex to use.
 

I7guy

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No, the one self centered is you, you're the one stating that anything you don't use is irrelevant.

And yes, gotluck is right, he doesn't say what is relevant or not, what you should use or not, You're the one that has stated that everything you dont know or understand is írrelevant.

Okay so now we are into name calling and by the way pot, kettle thing.

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That's a very naive point of view. Ios doesn't easily support file attachment in email doesn't mean it is simpler than the one that does. In fact it is more complex due to workarounds needed.

Having YouTube play in a popup window doesn't add to the complexity of using YouTube but greatly improve the end user experience.

In android Dropbox it is easier to just click an option in settings to set auto upload photos than on ios where you need to configure the background refresh and as well as Dropbox settings.

Using Facebook chat head on android allows you follow the conversation easily whereas in iOS you have to click the notification then bring up Facebook to reply and then use switch back to your previous app.

So the above show with more capabilities in android in fact makes things simpler not more complex. Whereas not having capabilities in fact make ios much more complex to use.

I don't use my phone like you do. I use my phone as a communication device with family; FaceTime, imessage, and to support my business. Rarely go on youtube, take a ton of pictures of which the 5s camera is highly rated and support my business.

IOS makes all of this very simple for me.

We may disagree but at least I can have a cogent discussion, much more so than some others.
 
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