That old tablet from 2012 also had Face ID:
C'mon, Apple, you're lagging behind!
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Oh, I am not saying it was good but then, also, I don't think iOS's implementation is any good, either. With iOS, you have to swipe up (making a nasty smudge in the screen) to have it look for your face, which can still be fooled with a photo or messed up with a mask on, but with Touch ID, you just tap the button and instant unlock, no smudging the screen or hoping the condition of lighting is just right or worrying if wearing a mask screws it all up.
Face ID is and was a solution in search of a problem. And, accurately, 'low security' as Samsung realized back in 2012. However, Apple was not the first much to the dismay of those who were led to believe they were the first. There are tons of firsts that people associate with Apple that were in Android (and even WebOS!) years ago.
One of my favorite arguments went like this:
Android: We got Face Unlock with Android 4.x in 2011
Apple user: Gimmicks! nobody is gonna want to use that!
Apple: Releases Face ID (and notch) with iPhone X
Apple user: Finally! face unlock is here!
Android user: Um, we had that back in 2011! you said it was a gimmick!
Apple user: But APPLE did it and made it BETTER!
Argument has repeated tons of times over the years with other features that are claimed 'Apple' (and even Android) invented that existed years ago.
Android user: Hey we got wireless charging finally with the Nexus 6!!!
Old WebOS/Palm Pre user: um, we had that in 2009!
Android user: But GOOGLE made it BETTER!
Will anyone ever learn?
Samsung: We release Samsung Pay that works with non-NFC compliant terminals in 2016
Apple users: Paying with your PHONE?! who wants that?!
Stores: We don't want that hacker level black web magic here!
Samsung user: Hey check this out [waves phone] beep! [receipt prints] looks like it works fine!
Stores: Whoa! how'd you do that?
Apple users: Hey I wanna try it! [tries, fails] why don't this work?!
Apple: comes out with Apple Pay and stores finally give in to comply
Apple Users in 2019: This paying with one's phone is cool as heck!
Android users: we had that since 2016 and it worked everywhere!
Apple users: But APPLE made it BETTER!
Good Lord!
Face ID is and was a solution in search of a problem. And, accurately, 'low security' as Samsung realized back in 2012. However, Apple was not the first much to the dismay of those who were led to believe they were the first. There are tons of firsts that people associate with Apple that were in Android (and even WebOS!) years ago.
One of my favorite arguments went like this:
Android: We got Face Unlock with Android 4.x in 2011
Apple user: Gimmicks! nobody is gonna want to use that!
Apple: Releases Face ID (and notch) with iPhone X
Apple user: Finally! face unlock is here!
Android user: Um, we had that back in 2011! you said it was a gimmick!
Apple user: But APPLE did it and made it BETTER!
Argument has repeated tons of times over the years with other features that are claimed 'Apple' (and even Android) invented that existed years ago.
Android user: Hey we got wireless charging finally with the Nexus 6!!!
Old WebOS/Palm Pre user: um, we had that in 2009!
Android user: But GOOGLE made it BETTER!
Will anyone ever learn?
Samsung: We release Samsung Pay that works with non-NFC compliant terminals in 2016
Apple users: Paying with your PHONE?! who wants that?!
Stores: We don't want that hacker level black web magic here!
Samsung user: Hey check this out [waves phone] beep! [receipt prints] looks like it works fine!
Stores: Whoa! how'd you do that?
Apple users: Hey I wanna try it! [tries, fails] why don't this work?!
Apple: comes out with Apple Pay and stores finally give in to comply
Apple Users in 2019: This paying with one's phone is cool as heck!
Android users: we had that since 2016 and it worked everywhere!
Apple users: But APPLE made it BETTER!
Good Lord!
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Spot on. It is just ridiculous at this point. Apple doesn't even try to hide that they are just taking Android features "and making them better" on iPhone any more.
The notch is better than a camera hole punch cut out. We would never implement such a bad design and out tech is too complicated to work in a hole punch. Now we have a pill shaped camera hole punch which honestly looks terrible in my opinion and doesn't really improve the user experience over the notch but dynamic island improves the experience. All the while Samsung has has really small hole punch cut outs that aren't an eyesore for years.
And of course there is always on display which again Android users have had for years. My iPhone 13 Pro Max for some reason even with a dynamic refresh rate doesn't qualify for this new feature yet Samsung has done this before variable refresh rate displays were even available. It angers me they are holding back a feature they could easily implement on most of their phones with some minor adjustments but in order to sell new phones they are holding it back.
It is actually one of the reasons I find myself using my s22 plus more because I really like the feature.
Well said.
This is the main reason I have bought a pixel as I am seriously getting sick of Apple and might switch soon.
I will test the water on the other side before I definitely decide.
This is the main reason I have bought a pixel as I am seriously getting sick of Apple and might switch soon.
I will test the water on the other side before I definitely decide.
I completely agree with your post, with the exception of FaceID. I personally think Apple did do it better, much better, in regards to FaceID.
But there are things Apple did worst. Apple definitely did wireless charging worse, the iPhone is so finicky with what wireless charger it's on. Samsung devices will wireless charge on every wireless charger I've ever had. And I'm definitely not a fan of Magsafe charging.
I agree that Apple does make improvements like face ID with infrared mapping but I think there are reasons Android OEMs never adopted the tech and it can't just be due to cost.
Comparatively speaking iPhone is Apple's number one device of importance and they have a lot of money to throw at software development on a much more narrow range of products than Samsung or other Android OEM's and let's not forget most of the software features in Android have come from custom rom development where hackers added features that became so popular Google just adopted them into the main OS.
Considering the budget that Samsung has is much smaller than Apple they still manage to offer a lot features.
And Samsung introduced Live Widgets back in 2010-11 with TouchWiz another Android first. Samsung's take on Live Widgets to this day is vastly superior to what Apple is offering. I remember those Widgets being updated on the fly with News Feeds and acting like a Rolodex, you could scroll with your finger.
The only 2011 Samsung I had was a Galaxy SII (albeit much later on in 2020) and it had the original Android 2.3 TouchWiz 4 UI but I don't remember 'live' widgets. I do remember 'live wallpaper' that depicted the weather though.
Android 2.3 was my favorite version. No Google Play Services, no bloat, and a beautifully skeuo UI design, and it was meant for geeks.
One of the things keeping me on my 'ancient' tablets is the Samsung devices running 4.0-4.4 still cling to the Android 2.3 UI including the 'green' battery icon, coloured notifications, apps to SD support, and the skeuo. "Modern" Android just makes me feel depressed and hurts my eyes to look at long term. I'm sick of the whole flat design trend. It's been almost ten years already!
Inquiry: why is Firefox telling me that I spelled "coloured" wrong by underlining it squiggly? That is the correct spelling!
Android 2.3 was my favorite version. No Google Play Services, no bloat, and a beautifully skeuo UI design, and it was meant for geeks.
One of the things keeping me on my 'ancient' tablets is the Samsung devices running 4.0-4.4 still cling to the Android 2.3 UI including the 'green' battery icon, coloured notifications, apps to SD support, and the skeuo. "Modern" Android just makes me feel depressed and hurts my eyes to look at long term. I'm sick of the whole flat design trend. It's been almost ten years already!
Inquiry: why is Firefox telling me that I spelled "coloured" wrong by underlining it squiggly? That is the correct spelling!
It was on the original Galaxy Tab 10.1 that started the whole Apple vs Samsung lawsuit. That was my very first Samsung tablet.
Oh. I wanted the OG Galaxy Tab as well but they all but disappeared from Amazon and I don't trust Ebay. Only the Tab 2 and up.
My first Galaxy Tab was the Tab 2 10.1. That one ultimately died (I installed a ROM which performed like crap, got angry like a Markiplier rage, and destroyed it) but I got two others (one 10.1 and one 7.0) that work great. I never update anything on them, either.
Now I really wanna try one out!
My first Galaxy Tab was the Tab 2 10.1. That one ultimately died (I installed a ROM which performed like crap, got angry like a Markiplier rage, and destroyed it) but I got two others (one 10.1 and one 7.0) that work great. I never update anything on them, either.
Now I really wanna try one out!
I’ll be honest I don’t know anybody who uses Android tablets and they don’t seem to be promoted here like iPads are. Even my friends and family who have Android phones tend to have iPads for their tablet needs. It seems to be a bit of a forgotten market here.
Browser traffic data suggests Android tablet market (traffic) share is increasing globally with iPad declining (in percentage terms).
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Similar picture in countries/regions where you might assume some local resistance to these global trends, e.g. US, Europe, UK
Tablet Operating System Market Share Worldwide | Statcounter Global Stats
This graph shows the market share of tablet operating systems worldwide based on over 5 billion monthly page views.
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Similar picture in countries/regions where you might assume some local resistance to these global trends, e.g. US, Europe, UK
Here's what it'll be like to use the Google Pixel Tablet [Video]
Google has been preparing for the Pixel Tablet launch, and we can now show a fun video recreation of what it’ll be like to use the tablet.
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I've definitely shared that nostalgia lately. The heyday in my opinion was 2011-2013 with flashing roms to no end. I could never do that again since I like my phone the way it is and hate tinkering, but for some reason, 10 years ago it was completely acceptable to be running a new software sometimes more than once per day and I didn't miss out on anything.
Just for giggles, I got out my Amazon Fire Tablet and it installed an OS update.
It's from 2019 and Amazon claims 4 years of updates after it stops being sold on their website. It is just as slow as my 2019 Samsung Galaxy Tab A.
My Samsung received final update last July.
It's from 2019 and Amazon claims 4 years of updates after it stops being sold on their website. It is just as slow as my 2019 Samsung Galaxy Tab A.
My Samsung received final update last July.
I kind of disagree. Of course you could do all the basic tasks with your phone but trying to write a full on multiple-page document or long email with your phone? That gets much too tedious much too fast.
That and websites aren't the same using the mobile version. I actually like using the desktop PC. I don't use it a lot but I prefer it when looking for things online and for forums as well.
In fact I'm going to upgrade the Asus all in one PC we have with a new one some time this year.
That is one advantage Chromebooks have is using full version of Chrome browser. Also being able to install and run a full version of Linux operating system is too.
It is unfortunate that many OEMs under deliver on the hardware.
There is an Acer gaming Chromebook that has pretty decent specs that is very tempting. Plus it will be supported until 2030.
I have to say that I really enjoy my Galaxy Tab s8. It is such a great Tablet.
I don't see why people think Android tablets are just garbage. I mean if you get a $200 Android tablet I can understand that it is not going to deliver a premium experience but there are some decent cheaper options like the newest s6 lite.
However if you compare the cost of a middle range iPad like a iPad air 5th gen to the s8 the s8 wins on every metric but SOC.
Hopefully Samsung will release an s9 with 8 gen 2 and then it will compare nicely to iPads.
Google will be releasing a new tablet this year and I really hope that they use a 90hz or better refresh rate display and it might get me to switch but honestly Samsung is pretty hard to beat!
I don't see why people think Android tablets are just garbage. I mean if you get a $200 Android tablet I can understand that it is not going to deliver a premium experience but there are some decent cheaper options like the newest s6 lite.
However if you compare the cost of a middle range iPad like a iPad air 5th gen to the s8 the s8 wins on every metric but SOC.
Hopefully Samsung will release an s9 with 8 gen 2 and then it will compare nicely to iPads.
Google will be releasing a new tablet this year and I really hope that they use a 90hz or better refresh rate display and it might get me to switch but honestly Samsung is pretty hard to beat!
Well, you answered your question.
Reason why iPads do well because Apple controls the experience... there's no such thing as a $200 iPad and there's plenty of Android tablets that can be bought for under $200. And in addition to that, the average consumer will gravitate toward the cheapest model.
I personally don't think all Android tablets are garbage, but as you alluded to... the price will reflect the experience.