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Aneres11

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If I bought from Amazon, I'd need to pay £140 import fees / tax. :eek:

Me and this phone are seemingly not meant to be!

The phone itself equivalates to about £550 which I'd be more than happy with, but adding that tax on and nope.
:(

I'd just wait for a UK release, but I can't see that happening any time soon.
 

co.ag.2005

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Couldn’t wait, just got back from Best Buy. At least as an elite member, they said I had 45 days return/price match guarantee. Made them write it on my receipt just in case.

2 quick differences between this and my original, this one doesn’t have a hole in the top earpiece, and the sim tray is uniform with the body.

hey, head on into Best Buy and ask for $100 back on your purchase. They've done that for purchases I made in the past.

https://www.droid-life.com/2017/10/19/deal-essential-phone-drops-100-best-buy/
 
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Fernandez21

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Fernandez21

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I don't know hey. There are 2016 flagships that are going for a lot less now that would seem to be a better choice than this even at $499. One could get a Galaxy S7 Edge, HTC 10, ZTE Axon7, Huawei P9 Plus, OnePlus 3 or 3T.
I don't see any 2016 flagship I would prefer to this phone, all those flagships you mentioned have last year's processor, much less storage, worse design, larger footprint, worse screen, and will have almost no software support after the end of the year. (my S7 probably won't see Oreo until summer).

The only thing those phones may have on the essential is the camera.
 

Tsepz

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I don't see any 2016 flagship I would prefer to this phone, all those flagships you mentioned have last year's processor, much less storage, worse design, larger footprint, worse screen, and will have almost no software support after the end of the year. (my S7 probably won't see Oreo until summer).

The only thing those phones may have on the essential is the camera.

OnePlus 3 just got Oreo, I think most of those flagships will continue to be supported, my Note 4 and S7 Edge have been getting security updates up until this month. HTC are good with updates, the ZTE maybe the 1 that gets dropped.

Can we even guarantee the Essential will have software support past end of this year?

Anyway my suggestions were for whoeveray be looking for a phone at $499 or less.
 

Fernandez21

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OnePlus 3 just got Oreo, I think most of those flagships will continue to be supported, my Note 4 and S7 Edge have been getting security updates up until this month. HTC are good with updates, the ZTE maybe the 1 that gets dropped.

Can we even guarantee the Essential will have software support past end of this year?

Anyway my suggestions were for whoeveray be looking for a phone at $499 or less.
Well, as long as the company is still around, it's suppose to get 2 years worth of software updates and 3 years security updates.

This has been my favorite phone of the year so far, so I would definitely recommend this phone, as long as the camera isn't top priority. If the camera is your top priority, then yeah, something like the OG Pixel or S8 would probably be your best choice in that price range.
 
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Tsepz

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Well, as long as the company is still around, it's suppose to get 2 years worth of software updates and 3 years security updates.

This has been my favorite phone of the year so far, so I would definitely recommend this phone, as long as the camera isn't top priority. If the camera is your top priority, then yeah, something like the OG Pixel or S8 would probably be your best choice in that price range.
I honestly hope Essential get it right, this is their fist product, and you are paying the price of being an early adopter, there will always be pain in that combo.

I know the feeling of having a phone that just feels perfect in your hand, as much as I am loving my Note8, I can honestly say to this day the best feeling device to hold I ever had was the Galaxy S3 due to its pebble shape, I have yet to ever come across another phone that felt so great in hand, so I understand where you come from with the Essential.

Enjoy it!
 
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co.ag.2005

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I honestly hope Essential get it right, this is their fist product, and you are paying the price of being an early adopter, there will always be pain in that combo.

I know the feeling of having a phone that just feels perfect in your hand, as much as I am loving my Note8, I can honestly say to this day the best feeling device to hold I ever had was the Galaxy S3 due to its pebble shape, I have yet to ever come across another phone that felt so great in hand, so I understand where you come from with the Essential.

Enjoy it!

I agree. I'll buy the Essential PH-2 (?) (that won't work with the moniker PH-1 = ph-one) if it has a better camera. If they can get the camera speed and quality on par with at least the S8 (or S9 since it'll come out in 2018), I'll be on board.
 

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My Mom has had an AT&T account with me since 2001 when it was still called Cingular. But I kept going over the data limit, so she was ticked off and told me to get my own line. So Sprint (Feb-Mar 2017), Verizon (Mar-Sept 2017), and T-Mobile (Mar-Present).

I had to do Sprint because they offered the G5 for so cheap ($120 or $240) at Best Buy and didn't have much money that time. That G5 was a great phone which I ended buying two more to sell or trade-in for an S7 edge on T-Mo and is why I bought another one (that's unlocked) three weeks ago. Just hate Sprint.

I would rank it -
1. T-Mobile
2. Verizon
3. AT&T



4. Sprint

Verizon's coverage is better for me but I don't like their customer service. Bunch of ghetto people like they just left a jail cell. Been to multiple stores and they lack any sense of humor. With them, you can't pay partially debit and cash. It has to be one or the other. You can't pay certain installments on your phone. Has to be the entire thing or monthly to keep you there.

Their unlimited is $40 more expensive than my T-Mo One deal where I get a $13 monthly discount from a Pixel promo. I like Verizon's coverage as they are the only ones that can give me a signal at the Urban Plates in Brea, better speed, and how they come unlocked, but that's it. They treat me like just another guy and don't know how to build rapport.

T-Mobile isn't perfect but I get $70 flat rate with no $20 service charge. Better promos. T-Mobile Tuesday freebies. Raised their data from 30gb to 50gb last month before throttling down which is more than double than their competition.

This is why I hate Sprint -

http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1882045-Damn-do-I-ever-hate-Sprint/page4

After paying full price, I remember I had to domestic and international unlock my Sprint. G5. After three months, it stopped reading my T-Mobile sim where it can do call and text but no data. Then when I tried selling it to a nice Korean gentleman with his college son, it wouldn't read any sim. Then one Sprint employee assumed I didn't pay my bills when I actually always paid ahead of time with them.

The nice guy that I am, I ended up giving my G5 to the Korean buyer for free since I didn't want him to think I stole it and had another unlocked G5 coming from the mail that was on the way. I lose FM radio with the unlocked one as my Sprint's FM chip wasn't locked. Nothing is ever perfect no matter how many gadgets you rotate with. But I got rid of anything from Sprint, thank God. Good karma followed as my unlocked G5 made me the most money from DoorDash the following week.

I hate Sprint to the core. I wouldn't join Sprint if they offered every new phone to me for FREE including a silver 256gb iPhone X. They would all end up being an iPod touch.

As for the Essential Ph-1 (Phone), I like the design and how it uses ceramic which is harder to scratch but that's it. Dave Lee's opinion intrigued me but it was short-lived.

$100 cheaper now meaning it is a conplete flop because it only sold 5,000 of them. The Lonzo Ball shoes for phones. Even HP Pre 3, Nokia N9, Xperia Play sold better. An Atari Jaguar sold much higher. It's not going to be a collector's item since nobody wants it.

Poor camera.

Used Sharp Aquos Crystal and awkward handling with accidental input if not enough bezel on the sides.

You're better off getting the Pixel 2 XL on a much better network called Verizon. Then you can use it on T-Mobile with no problem.

Oh, and did I mention I absolutely hate Sprint?

End rant.

Next response... Cool story, bro. ;)
 

Fernandez21

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The $100 off seems to be more of a sale than price cut, it was included in an email I got that also promoted $100 off of the S8 and Pixel 2. I guess we'll find out, it's supposed to be for this weekend only.

Got my $100 credit today for price match, and after my gift cards the total came out to $320.

Also got a chance to play around with the smaller Pixel 2 while I was at Best buy, and it was pretty nice. The metal had this rough texture to it, the stereo speaker were nice, and that camera looked good (we were also in the bright lights of Best buy, so hard to judge how well it works in lower lit conditions.).

However when lining it up with my essential, it was slightly narrower and slightly taller physically, but the screen just feels sooooo much bigger on the essential. It truly is incredible how much screen they packed in this small body. Performance also felt the same between the 2. Happy with the essential phone.

Unfortunately I didn't get a chance to play with the Pixel 2XL, they didn't have it. But looking at size comparisons online I'm pretty sure I would still pick the essential phone over it, especially at $599 when compared to $949 for the Pixel 2xl.
 

Tig Bitties

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The Essential phone at $599 vs. the 128GB Pixel 2 XL at $949, no question I'd go Essential all day long. Plus with the Source coming soon, root and ROM's should start popping up next month.
 
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Fernandez21

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I honestly hope Essential get it right, this is their fist product, and you are paying the price of being an early adopter, there will always be pain in that combo.

I know the feeling of having a phone that just feels perfect in your hand, as much as I am loving my Note8, I can honestly say to this day the best feeling device to hold I ever had was the Galaxy S3 due to its pebble shape, I have yet to ever come across another phone that felt so great in hand, so I understand where you come from with the Essential.

Enjoy it!

Yup, to me the best in hand feel I had for a phone es the OG Moto X, 4.7” (my current iphone 7 would be second). That phone was just so comfortable, such a shame that design was abandoned after only a year.

But for the screen size, essential did a great job, only slightly larger than my iPhone 7, but an extra inch of screen. Combined with the premium materials and stock android, it’s my tops so far. Only one that has a chance of dethroning it is the iPhone X, and who knows if I’ll be able to get it this year.
 
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spriter

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Supposedly there was an update yesterday that made the camera "much" better. Confirm or deny?

I wonder if the Pixel camera apk works on the Essential. It’s supposed to be good for recent Snapdragon chips and, after seeing it turn a Mi Max camera from a noisy, grainy mess into a superb image taking machine, it would solve a major downer with this phone.
 

Fernandez21

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Supposedly there was an update yesterday that made the camera "much" better. Confirm or deny?
Not sure if this is with the update your talking about or not, this says no updates available and the build is from October 4th, but here are comparison shots similar to the ones I posted 2 weeks ago with my original Essential.
Mono
5589425ea8ded759c50f1b1dab90f7bb.jpg

Auto
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iPhone 7
63beb6c9a101f79e6c5f8693c6814530.jpg
 

symphara

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Not sure if this is with the update your talking about or not, this says no updates available and the build is from October 4th, but here are comparison shots similar to the ones I posted 2 weeks ago with my original Essential.
Mono
5589425ea8ded759c50f1b1dab90f7bb.jpg

Auto
9df4c5ddd030dee7b167925634bbe5d8.jpg

iPhone 7
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I don't understand how they get such a bad color photo from a good monochrome photo.

The good news is that I cannot help thinking they still can improve a lot. They just need to do a Huawei and figure out how to put the color information from the RGB sensor in the monochrome shot.
 
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Aneres11

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So I've decided this is the phone I want now.
Nothing else really interests me, other than iPhone X but I know i'll get bored with iOS before long.
This seems like the best designed Android device to buy right now, minus the camera problem which seems to be ok if you download the Google APK which I'd do.

I also want the white one.
If I can afford one next month I might go for it from Amzon, unless word of a UK release happens before then.
 
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co.ag.2005

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I wonder if the Pixel camera apk works on the Essential. It’s supposed to be good for recent Snapdragon chips and, after seeing it turn a Mi Max camera from a noisy, grainy mess into a superb image taking machine, it would solve a major downer with this phone.

Yeah, the patched Google camera APK that is on xda works fine with this phone. Much better than the stock camera app.
 
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Aneres11

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Picked one up as BB has $100 off and a had a gift card and rewards so out the door for $499. Woot.

Ergonomics are fantastic. Camera? Well that is not a priority for me so no drawback personally.

Congrats :)
Which colour did you opt for?
 

Tig Bitties

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Picked one up as BB has $100 off and a had a gift card and rewards so out the door for $499. Woot.

Ergonomics are fantastic. Camera? Well that is not a priority for me so no drawback personally.

With gift card for $499 is an amazing deal on this phone.

How does it perform ?
How foes it feel to hold and operate one handed possibly

I hear they be releasing some big updates later this month and next month to really fix the minor issues with the phone as far as performance wise and Camera wise and then Oreo I heard should be out by Thanksgiving or December
 
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