iPhone 11 Pro Any yellow tint on iPhone 11 Pro Max?

[garymontague]

There are definite variances in the screens.

I reserved another phone this morning as my current one is not uniform as it is slightly darker on the left of the screen compared to the right side in darker environments and content it is noticeable.

I now have both phones to compare and with the same settings (Auto brightness off, True Tone off and max brightness) the new one is slightly warmer but with less colour shift off axis. One thing I also noticed is that the new one seems to have a more vibrant screen - I have attached a photo to try to show the difference (new one is on the left - you can see it in the orange and yellow).

I’ll check out the uniformity tonight but if it’s better than the original I’ll keep the newer one as the warmer tint doesn’t bother me as much as the uniformity and it seems a more vibrant screen.

Wasn’t really going to get another but saw stock this morning so thought I’d give it a shot as I haven’t really got anything to lose.

Sorry for the bad photo. It was taken with an iPad

 

[Stephaneslb]

what was your issue with the pro (non max), also yellow screens compared to the ones in the shop?

Yes the ones in the shop had a perfect white compared to mine...
All of my colleagues which also bought the 11PRO had a yellowish screen...OLED Lottery I would say

 

[ApplePieAlaMode]

15 pages of almost pure garbage posts.

If you do not have a calibrated reference or instrument, your opinions about about “warmer”, “cooler”, “dingy” etc are completely without merit. I’m sorry if that sounds mean, but it is the truth. I do understand this is not intuitive to the average layman, but the truth is out there.

All of these screens are calibrated to a D65 white point (6500k) and that is that. There will be a small amount of variance, but there is no reason to believe there is a systematic defect in these iPhones out of the box.

Here’s what you CAN’T do. You can’t compare a year old device to a new iPhone. All of these devices colors shift over time. This is why in professional environments you recalibrate your display every month or so. If you think that iPhones are looking warm every year, perhaps it’s actually the phones shifting blue after a year instead? Ever consider that?

macOS has excellent support for display recalibration. It’s disappointing we don’t have the same support on the iOS side.

Your points are very valid and I agree with you on many of them. I do think screens should be recalibrated over time, and I do think our phones tend to shift bluer in time (have proof of this). That being said, on more than one occasion in the last 3 years, I’ve seen first hand a different coloring of two brand new phones side by side. (Mine and my husbands). Both set to identical settings and one (always seems to be mine lol) is the yellowy dingy one. It’s so very obvious. I used to play the exchange game but realized the variance is literally a lottery. And since I’ve noticed they cool down in time, I deal with it now.

 

[thelead]

Just give me a few RGB sliders.

Really just need to turn down the green a bit.

 

[Stephaneslb]

Your points are very valid and I agree with you on many of them. I do think screens should be recalibrated over time, and I do think our phones tend to shift bluer in time (have proof of this). That being said, on more than one occasion in the last 3 years, I’ve seen first hand a different coloring of two brand new phones side by side. (Mine and my husbands). Both set to identical settings and one (always seems to be mine lol) is the yellowy dingy one. It’s so very obvious. I used to play the exchange game but realized the variance is literally a lottery. And since I’ve noticed they cool down in time, I deal with it now.

You think it will get better with time? Some people say no?

 

[ApplePieAlaMode]

You think it will get better with time? Some people say no?

I can just go by my own experience in the past and I can say for sure that yes, the screen cooled down. I can’t say for sure why though (and I promise it was not just my eyes) Last year my XS was so so bad. After exchanging it a couple times I just gave up. Funny enough after a week it was less yellow and after a month it was so much better. I was comparing the progress using my iPad which was a perfect bright white. My husband also noted the cool down with his phone. As a photographer it bugged me the way the whites weren’t popping correctly in my photos. The flatness of the colors really made my photos look so bad. I will say this, the screen never got exactly to the color of my liking (which was my 7plus a few years back) but I think that’s partially because apple has a calibration that lends itself to a warmer screen now (the new normal) and the use of OLED which has a natural shift to it which looks different in different lighting (and I’m not talking about True Tone). With that being said, I have no clue why it cooled down over time (glue drying, software updates, some type of auto screen calibration over time, etc) but I will say that I’m not the only one who can confirm this happened over time. I’m just not entirely sure why. Anyhow, yep my 11pro is yellow. I’m keeping my fingers crossed it will cool because I am NOT playing the exchange game again. I’ll live with it. And of worse comes to worse, I’ll manually adjust my screen temp myself (although I prefer not to do this as I’ve noticed it inadvertently affects other colors and contrasts).

 

[Ikertxo40]

I just got the iphone 11 pro, in the shop it looked colder, bluer and whiter, so i left happy.

I arrived home and the first thing I did was changing the wallpaper to other one,the blue one, not the orange standard "dark mode" enabled. When I changed again to the orange one I saw something: it was way way paler and bleached out, and yellower than before my homescreen and lock screen!. What I want to say is that I think there is a bug in the wallpaper change feature, as I saw the same wallpaper, orange, way more contrasted the first time out of the box, and the second time was looking way worse. I erased the phone complitely "as new" and bam! the wallpaper and screen are more vivid now.

It is like the wallpaper added some yellow layer to the phone, i know it sounds a bit crazy, but if your phone is yellow, try to erase it as new, and DONT change the wallpaper.

For now, I am honestly afraid to change the wallpaper.

Apart from that, my iphone screen is also slightly darker on the left of the screen compared to the right side, but for now I am going to see if I can live with it, because this has caused me unnecessary stress, and next screen could be worse, right?...

 

[kirk.vino]

Here is my input.
First, I gotta say that these pics don't do justice to the real yellow cast that some of these screens show. My full-frame camera tends to reduce it a little with its white point balance.
The one on the left is an 11 Pro that I got yesterday, the one in middle is an iPhone X, and the one on the right is an 11 Pro that I got last Friday.
As you can see the X, of course, obliterates the new ones when it comes to whites at this lower brightness. The 11 Pro from yesterday (on the left) is more dingy and "red" than the other 11 Pro. Both 11 Pro's are uneven with the left side being a tad dimmer.
The new screens are indeed brighter than the X, but you need a lot of light or the sun pointing directly at them to trigger that max brightness (so Apple claims here would be correct about the new ones being brighter). However, under normal lighting and indoors the X is brighter most of the time due to its brighter whites. I also had an 11 Pro Max, which I returned. It would've been interesting if I had taken a pic of all of them side by side. The Max was probably the worst one with its extremely uneven screen brightness. It was dingy as well.
There is a lot of screen variance here. However, it was the exact same scenario 2 years ago when the X was released. Moreover, the first 2 units that I had back then were way worse than these new 11 Pro's. I got this good X a month later. Just like some suggested, I would probably wait a bit before buying if you can. You might get a better unit some time into the production. Right now all of them are more or less the same.

 

[ctcwired]

When I changed again to the orange one I saw something: it was way way paler and bleached out, and yellower than before my homescreen and lock screen!. What I want to say is that I think there is a bug in the wallpaper change feature, as I saw the same wallpaper, orange, way more contrasted the first time out of the box, and the second time was looking way worse. I erased the phone complitely "as new" and bam! the wallpaper and screen are more vivid now.

This definitely sounds like a color management bug. May or may not be related to the rest of yellow screen issues...

 

[kre62]

15 pages of almost pure garbage posts.

If you do not have a calibrated reference or instrument, your opinions about about “warmer”, “cooler”, “dingy” etc are completely without merit. I’m sorry if that sounds mean, but it is the truth. I do understand this is not intuitive to the average layman, but the truth is out there.

All of these screens are calibrated to a D65 white point (6500k) and that is that. There will be a small amount of variance, but there is no reason to believe there is a systematic defect in these iPhones out of the box.

Here’s what you CAN’T do. You can’t compare a year old device to a new iPhone. All of these devices colors shift over time. This is why in professional environments you recalibrate your display every month or so. If you think that iPhones are looking warm every year, perhaps it’s actually the phones shifting blue after a year instead? Ever consider that?

macOS has excellent support for display recalibration. It’s disappointing we don’t have the same support on the iOS side.

Your post has already been thoroughly debunked by others, so I'll let it be.

I will say, there has been a refreshing lack of Apple defenders this year. Seems like more people are willing to admit that Apple isn't perfect. I am still seeing some people come in with defensive posts about how this isn't all phones - yeah no kidding. Thats the point. That some phones have this, and those phones should be rejected.

No one is saying that every phone has an incorrect calibration. We are saying that some do, and that more seem to at launch due to relaxed tolerances. The point is, lets make it hurt so Apple stops dumping inferior panels on the unsuspecting public. If only we could all get a cherry picked screen like displaymate.

 

[rmt5222]

Your post has already been thoroughly debunked by others, so I'll let it be.

I will say, there has been a refreshing lack of Apple defenders this year. Seems like more people are willing to admit that Apple isn't perfect. I am still seeing some people come in with defensive posts about how this isn't all phones - yeah no kidding. Thats the point. That some phones have this, and those phones should be rejected.

No one is saying that every phone has an incorrect calibration. We are saying that some do, and that more seem to at launch due to relaxed tolerances. The point is, lets make it hurt so Apple stops dumping inferior panels on the unsuspecting public. If only we could all get a cherry picked screen like displaymate.

He's totally right......it's all in our heads, that's why these two 11 Pro Maxes with the same settings, auto-brightness off, true tone off, night shift off, set to the same brightness look so different......

 

[praxis219]

macOS has excellent support for display recalibration. It’s disappointing we don’t have the same support on the iOS side.

I would love that and that would fix half the issue.

My first 11 Pro Max had color shifting on 25% of the screen looking straight on. Extremely irritating when reading white web pages. Second one doesn't do that.
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Has anyone seen the new Everything ApplePro video here. He's talking about iOS 13.1 BUT he has a XS and the new 11 Pro next to each other both displaying their white screens. To me, both look whiter than whiter and perfect.
Maybe watch this and compare it to yours...

Probably True Tone. If the ambient environment has more blue light it will make the display cooler.

 

[Coffee_Time]

He's totally right......it's all in our heads, that's why these two 11 Pro Maxes with the same settings, auto-brightness off, true tone off, night shift off, set to the same brightness look so different......

I see a lot of color shifts. Yellow, green, pink, green vanilla, yellow vanilla.
I'll return them if I had those tints.
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Also it seems like a color gradient tint. That's what the real problem is. The gradient tilt.

 

[praxis219]

Also it seems like a color gradient tint. That's what the real problem is. The gradient tilt.

Yes the gradient color shift thing is the worst. It's fine if the whole screen shifts consistently, but it's very distracting when it's a gradient. It's a panel lottery with this also.

 

[ProMod]

Anecdotal report on my end:

I stopped in Best Buy to take a look at the display 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max and compare them to my 11 Pro. At first I was disappointed because my phone appeared much more dull. I wouldn't call it yellow, but I'd call it more of a gray cast. This is at full brightness, with True Tone on and off. But I had forgotten to turn off auto brightness on my phone before comparing. It was already off on the display. After turning off auto brightness on my phone, it was actually quite a bit brighter and whiter than the display model.

I think a lot of our concern stems from an over-aggressive auto brightness feature.

 

[kirk.vino]

Anecdotal report on my end:

I stopped in Best Buy to take a look at the display 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max and compare them to my 11 Pro. At first I was disappointed because my phone appeared much more dull. I wouldn't call it yellow, but I'd call it more of a gray cast. This is at full brightness, with True Tone on and off. But I had forgotten to turn off auto brightness on my phone before comparing. It was already off on the display. After turning off auto brightness on my phone, it was actually quite a bit brighter and whiter than the display model.

I think a lot of our concern stems from an over-aggressive auto brightness feature.

Unfortunately, that will be the same experience for everyone. It was the same with the X 2years ago and it’s the same now with my 11 Pro as well. It really doesn’t mean anything when you judge those display units. What I mean is the display units are capped since they’re constantly on and charging. They don’t really show their full brightness even with Auto Brightness off. If you put your phone on a charger and turn off Auto Brightness, it will eventually dim the screen too capping its max brightness. It’s the temperature management in the phone.
I would say go by normal settings or even with the brightness half way down. If your phone appears dimmer than the display units, it really is dimmer in real life then as well.

 

[ProMod]

Unfortunately, that will be the same experience for everyone. It was the same with the X 2years ago and it’s the same now with my 11 Pro as well. It really doesn’t mean anything when you judge those display units. What I mean is the display units are capped since they’re constantly on and charging. They don’t really show their full brightness even with Auto Brightness off. If you put your phone on a charger and turn off Auto Brightness, it will eventually dim the screen too capping its max brightness. It’s the temperature management in the phone.
I would say go by normal settings or even with the brightness half way down. If your phone appears dimmer than the display units, it really is dimmer in real life then as well.

What if the display phone was off the charger and laying flat on the table during my comparison?

 

[kirk.vino]

What if the display phone was off the charger and laying flat on the table during my comparison?

All can I say is that you will see the same results with every display unit. I did it a lot 2 years ago and I did it again with the new phone as well. Also, read the other comments here. Everyone is repeating this exact “experiment” with the exact same results. The display units have a modified version of the iOS. They don’t show their max brightness, which makes sense. If they were truly unlocked in that regard just like rental units, they would show burn-in and image retention after weeks of being constantly on.

 

[rkuo]

You obviously didnt read all posts before dismissing us. I personally compared my new phone against a new phone in the same conditions and settings. Veredict: way warmer and less bright less also white than shop units. And this is a fact, not discussable as even shop people acknowledged it.

Nothing in my post states that there are not phones with defects out there. If you bought a NEW phone, compared it with a bunch of other NEW phones and found yours to be lacking somehow, then by all means, exchange it and be done with the whole rigmarole.

 

[rkuo]

Your points are very valid and I agree with you on many of them. I do think screens should be recalibrated over time, and I do think our phones tend to shift bluer in time (have proof of this). That being said, on more than one occasion in the last 3 years, I’ve seen first hand a different coloring of two brand new phones side by side. (Mine and my husbands). Both set to identical settings and one (always seems to be mine lol) is the yellowy dingy one. It’s so very obvious. I used to play the exchange game but realized the variance is literally a lottery. And since I’ve noticed they cool down in time, I deal with it now.

There is good reason to believe that OLED's may shift even more in color over time due to their organic emissive nature. The same factors that contribute to potential burn in would also shift the color temperature of the display.

Even new phones out of the box might show pretty significant differences in white points to the naked eye if you get one calibrated at the lower end of 6500k and one at the upper. I don't think we know exactly what the tolerances for Apple's QA pass on these are. If someone here actually buys 4-5 iPhones, it would be factual and informative to see what the white points of those displays are. By definition the calibration process gets lengthier and more expensive the more accurate we want that calibration to be, so it's hard to imagine Apple really going all out on this.

Of course, there is always the possibility of the occasional QA issue which really throws an ugly display out there.

 

[rkuo]

Your post has already been thoroughly debunked by others, so I'll let it be.

I will say, there has been a refreshing lack of Apple defenders this year. Seems like more people are willing to admit that Apple isn't perfect. I am still seeing some people come in with defensive posts about how this isn't all phones - yeah no kidding. Thats the point. That some phones have this, and those phones should be rejected.

No one is saying that every phone has an incorrect calibration. We are saying that some do, and that more seem to at launch due to relaxed tolerances. The point is, lets make it hurt so Apple stops dumping inferior panels on the unsuspecting public. If only we could all get a cherry picked screen like displaymate.

While I thoroughly disagree that anything I posted was "debunked", I'm perfectly fine with the rest of what you said. Apple should not let some of these displays through ... although that's probably true for many hardware bits of the QA process, not just the display.

In particular, allowing the store or some third party hardware to recalibrate the display would go a long way to solving these issues in the field and ensuring you have a well calibrated display in a year or two and not just RIGHT NOW.

 

[Alicia1]

For launch day I purchased 2 x Gold 256gb Pro Max's as I usually have the worst luck when it comes to apple products, like dead pixels etc so I always buy 2 just in case. Again I am happy I did as the 2nd one had a more vibrant screen than the first, it is like the pic above from garymontague. The first one looked so washed out compared to it. True tone is always switched off as I hate it, however as usual in some light the screen looks yellow and in other light the screen is white. Even with true tone off the oled display changes depending on the light (My X and XS Max was exactly the same)

 

[bushman4]

This will fix the color of your screen to the tone you want
Accessibility
Display and text size
TURN ON COLOR FILTER
Check off Color Tint on the bottom
A slider will now open up that says HUE
Adjust to you hearts content to the coolness or warmness you want
PROBLEM SOLVED!!

 

[Nacho98]

This will fix the color of your screen to the tone you want
Accessibility
Display and text size
TURN ON COLOR FILTER
Check off Color Tint on the bottom
A slider will now open up that says HUE
Adjust to you hearts content to the coolness or warmness you want
PROBLEM SOLVED!!

NO.

All you've done is put a nasty filter over the WHOLE screen and ruined ALL colors.

There's a reason it's called COLOR FILTERS and not WHITEPOINT CONTROL.

 

[kirk.vino]

This will fix the color of your screen to the tone you want
Accessibility
Display and text size
TURN ON COLOR FILTER
Check off Color Tint on the bottom
A slider will now open up that says HUE
Adjust to you hearts content to the coolness or warmness you want
PROBLEM SOLVED!!

By masking yellow or dingy screens with that, you skew other colors. Let alone uneven brightness that can’t be fixed with that at all. So I wouldn’t call it a problem solver.