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Dayley28

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At the same time that X doesn’t look uniform at all: the top half is darker and has a different tint compared to the bottom of the screen.

Yeah, after looking again, I agree. I just don’t think OLED displays are there yet. As much as I so desperately want the 11 pro I just cannot and will not ever get over the warm tint and poor display uniformity. It’s either the iPhone 11 for me this year or no iPhone. But I don’t know about the iPhone 11 because it actually has a worse screen resolution than my iPhone 7 Plus so I don’t know if I could cope with that either. I just don’t know what to do really.
 

Bradleyone

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Jul 7, 2015
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Same boat. I returned my 11 Pro about a week ago and haven’t bothered to play screen bingo as the sense of waste from rejected phones bothers me.

(Also, the attitude from the kool-aid staff at a small Apple Store, who seem convinced an Apple product can never be sub par. I suppose their jobs require believing that.)

What I‘ll probably do is wait another few weeks and then follow kre62’s advice, who seems to have a long history of watching these things play out. Which is, wait a 4-6 week period and try again.

I don’t know the reason they would settle down, but I can imagine some sort of manufacturing tolerances that can get tuned as time goes on. Just as early chip yields are poor, then gradually increase.

In the meantime, I’m psychologically conditioning myself to see my current screen as too blue, so that when I do get a warmer screen, my brain will see it as perfect!
 
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Martinonprod

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Oct 4, 2019
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My experience is that i bought a first iphone 11 pro which was very yellow. I am going to return it immediately to the apple store to get my money back. I bought another iphone 11 pro that was still yellow tinted! I went to 2 apple store in Paris. I tried my iphone next to a 40ne iphone 11 pro/pro Max and they were all yellow. Finally a week after I am going to get my money back again because it was horrible every time I looked at my iphone pro. Then I bought the iphone 11 LCD and now it's perfect, white are really white. Apple disappointed me. I thought I pay expensive for quality but it's wrong !
 

symphony

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At the same time that X doesn’t look uniform at all: the top half is darker and has a different tint compared to the bottom of the screen.

That might be a screen protector. I’m still using Apple’s protection film as a temporary screen protector and it has that tint differences
 

Alex586

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Sep 20, 2019
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My experience is that i bought a first iphone 11 pro which was very yellow. I am going to return it immediately to the apple store to get my money back. I bought another iphone 11 pro that was still yellow tinted! I went to 2 apple store in Paris. I tried my iphone next to a 40ne iphone 11 pro/pro Max and they were all yellow. Finally a week after I am going to get my money back again because it was horrible every time I looked at my iphone pro. Then I bought the iphone 11 LCD and now it's perfect, white are really white. Apple disappointed me. I thought I pay expensive for quality but it's wrong !

I totally agree, it's unacceptable. I was even checked after at Fnac and Darty, all Pro were yellow, the 11 was really better, beautiful color, vibrant and wayyyy cooler. I prefer a screen with good colors and big bezels than the opposite.
 

BarrettF77

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May 24, 2015
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I just can't go back to the camera system on the 11 and the smaller screen sadly. Otherwise it'd be great. But I love the oled. Just going to learn tot live with the slight uneven temp difference on the screen and white isn't terribly yellow.

I got 3 initially and tried 2 more as that was all they had. This was the best of them and the other 2nd is just not acceptable. Display issue, debris, buttons that are mushy and won't tactile click when pressed. Things that indicate lack of QC. Somone will be disappointed when the white box units start being circulated with these in them.
 

chillip

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So it turns out my display is fine and it’s the wallpaper that causing the issue. See the photos, same phone but one screen shot taken before and one After a restart. WTF!
 

socceryo3

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Jun 30, 2013
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So my express replacement arrived today. It is a week 35, so one week earlier than my original 11 Pro. It has much better contrast so in that regard the screen looks better, but it is slightly more yellow than my original 11 Pro. I guess since the contrast is better which means text stands out better and colors/photos have more perceived definition instead of being slightly weak, then I should keep the replacement. But I'm not sure if I should call Apple support again to see if there are any remaining options since it is slightly yellower. Opinions?
 

BarrettF77

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May 24, 2015
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If the display is uniform on low light like Gray colors such as the update screen for the hue app then keep it. IF not, send it back.
 
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jimmy_uk

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Oct 19, 2015
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I just compared mine to 4 11 pros in the Apple store and the ones in the store, the screens were much more vibrant than mine! WTF!
Usually the stores hand pick the best examples. Usually. Last year's XS models in my local store all looked different. Panel lottery for everyone.
 
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Dayley28

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Jan 10, 2019
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To be honest this has kind of ruined my experience with OLED. The 11 pro was my first ever OLED iPhone coming from a 7 plus so I was really excited about the supposed ‘amazing’ display. But without even comparing to my 7 plus you could see how the whites were crushed and despite it being brighter I just did not see the difference I was meant to see at all. I don’t know what to do now since returning my iPhone 11 pro. Should I keep my 7 plus, replace the battery and keep it (health is at 81%), wait a few months to see if these display ‘issues’ blow over and re-buy the 11 pro or just buy the iPhone 11? However I’m skeptical about buying the iPhone 11 as the screen is lower resolution than my 7 plus and this in my eyes does not warrant the upgrade whereas OLED did, but surprisingly I was not impressed at all with the display due to the yellow tint. Basically looks like someone took a piss on the display.
 

jimmy_uk

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Oct 19, 2015
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Same boat. I returned my 11 Pro about a week ago and haven’t bothered to play screen bingo as the sense of waste from rejected phones bothers me.

(Also, the attitude from the kool-aid staff at a small Apple Store, who seem convinced an Apple product can never be sub par. I suppose their jobs require believing that.)

What I‘ll probably do is wait another few weeks and then follow kre62’s advice, who seems to have a long history of watching these things play out. Which is, wait a 4-6 week period and try again.

I don’t know the reason they would settle down, but I can imagine some sort of manufacturing tolerances that can get tuned as time goes on. Just as early chip yields are poor, then gradually increase.

In the meantime, I’m psychologically conditioning myself to see my current screen as too blue, so that when I do get a warmer screen, my brain will see it as perfect!
The QC on Apple products isn't just an issue at launch, it's an all year issue sadly. The tolerances that Apple think is acceptable for these OLEDs is obviously quite wide because I haven't seen two screens the same. Surprisingly I've yet to see a bad Samsung OLED instore for the last few years of their latest phone models.
 
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jimmy_uk

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To be honest this has kind of ruined my experience with OLED. The 11 pro was my first ever OLED iPhone coming from a 7 plus so I was really excited about the supposed ‘amazing’ display. But without even comparing to my 7 plus you could see how the whites were crushed and despite it being brighter I just did not see the difference I was meant to see at all. I don’t know what to do now since returning my iPhone 11 pro. Should I keep my 7 plus, replace the battery and keep it (health is at 81%), wait a few months to see if these display ‘issues’ blow over and re-buy the 11 pro or just buy the iPhone 11? However I’m skeptical about buying the iPhone 11 as the screen is lower resolution than my 7 plus and this in my eyes does not warrant the upgrade whereas OLED did, but surprisingly I was not impressed at all with the display due to the yellow tint. Basically looks like someone took a piss on the display.
OLED will always look different from LCD. OLED is warmer. I think Apple have tweaked these Samsung displays to be closer to the LCDS we're used to. Samsungs latest mobiles do not look like these iphones and yet they make these displays. Apparently it's the same display used in the Note 10 but changed to Apples specifications.

Apples LCD have been some of the best in the mobile space for a while now so it's disappointing to see so many OLEDs that look bad or too yellow if these are supposed to be the future of all Apple products. For a long time there was also a display lottery for iPhones and ipads with LCD but in the last few years Apple improved greatly. OLED for Apple has been a lottery since the X, I don't believe it's a release or bad batch issue but more to do with the tolerances Apple find acceptable. They should let us fully adjust the display as Samsung does.

Apple really opened themselves up to this level of scrutiny and comparison when they started charging over £1000 for their phones. If we're spending this much money then we better get the product we were promised/shown. Apples implementation of OLED leaves alot to be desired.

I'm currently sticking with 7 Plus because I'm not a fan of the 11 (lower resolution, narrower display) and I cannot use the OLEDs (PWM issues). Its tough because I look forward to getting the latest iphone but 3 years of OLED disappointment have left me with the same iphone. But the 7 plus is still a solid phone with a good LCD. Perhaps you could get a new battery and ride out another year until the already famous 2020 redesign? Alternatively you could try an 11 and see if you can adjust, they do have a nice LCD even though its a lower resolution. Or get an 8 plus so at least you feel like your getting some upgrades even if minor (crisper display, new battery, wireless charging, louder speakers).

I've even been considering switching to Android but remind myself the tablets are poor, the watches not as good as the Apple watch and the OS security is flawed. Apples eco system and security keep me locked in even if I'm running old, old hardware.
 
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Harthag

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To be honest this has kind of ruined my experience with OLED. The 11 pro was my first ever OLED iPhone coming from a 7 plus so I was really excited about the supposed ‘amazing’ display. But without even comparing to my 7 plus you could see how the whites were crushed and despite it being brighter I just did not see the difference I was meant to see at all. I don’t know what to do now since returning my iPhone 11 pro. Should I keep my 7 plus, replace the battery and keep it (health is at 81%), wait a few months to see if these display ‘issues’ blow over and re-buy the 11 pro or just buy the iPhone 11? However I’m skeptical about buying the iPhone 11 as the screen is lower resolution than my 7 plus and this in my eyes does not warrant the upgrade whereas OLED did, but surprisingly I was not impressed at all with the display due to the yellow tint. Basically looks like someone took a piss on the display.
I ended up returning my 11 Pro Max and got the peasant phone, aka 11. Even under the bright lights at the Apple store the LCD on my new 11 was so much cooler white than my Pro Max which I thought was good honestly. I returned it because the screen is uneven when viewing dark / gray content and during normal use in dark mode at night with low brightness.

No complaints with the regular 11. Nice even white and no pixel defects. If you’re sick of playing the OLED lottery just get the 11 LCD. The screens I’ve seen and now owned are more consistent.
 

StevenB14

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May 23, 2012
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I know this is not a solution really but may just be enough for some.

Has anyone went into:
Settings ->Accessibility -> Display & Text Size -> Colour Filters

Chose colour tint, reduce intensity to the lowest and move the hue slider until the display looks less yellow and a little more balanced in the blue area.

Not sure if there is any negative/downside to doing this and leaving it on all the time.

My yellow ish screen appears much better now.
 

Alex586

macrumors member
Sep 20, 2019
44
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Yes I personally tested this workaround but you loose so much brightness that is dommageable. Apple give us a simple white point slider like other 99% Android phone, is it too hard for you ?
 

socceryo3

macrumors member
Jun 30, 2013
98
117
If the display is uniform on low light like Gray colors such as the update screen for the hue app then keep it. IF not, send it back.

In low light in dark mode, grays are noticeably more reddish. So to recap, the replacement's screen has more contrast so the whites and colors look sharper and less weak, but it is slightly more yellow and in low light has slightly more red. So I don't know. Should I just contact Apple Support again then? If I had to choose one of the two phones I guess I'd choose the replacement because the screen doesn't look weak. But it's possible they might issue another replacement for the replacement. I don't know.
 

yugioh5d

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Mar 20, 2015
105
9
Wow that looks really bad compared to the X. I would return if I was you because I would not be able to cope with that and when you get your money back I would stick with the X for a few months Until all of this settles and is maybe talked about more, in which apple may release a statement or provide a fix through software. I’m thinking about buying the normal 11 as I had the 11 pro (non max) but decided to return it because I couldn’t cope with the screen uniformity and yellow issues.

Today I went to the mobile retailers around me to check the display units, and yeah mine is definitely has a weird tint to it (especially when viewing on light background - like the Settings). The overall brightness of this phone is weaker than the display units I found. So yeah this one is going back.
 

seaw

macrumors member
Jun 15, 2012
92
12
Just received my iPhone 11 Pro. Compared to my wife’s XS the screen the screen of the Pro is yellow, muddy and seems even darker and less crisp. When viewing from the side, it turns completely green or blueish. Also, looking straight into the display (TT on) I partially have a quite yellow part at the top and then it fades out into purple/blue towards the bottom (approx lower third of the display). My wife’s XS screen looks so clear and bright and also does not look so green from side viewing angles.
Does every 11 Pro have such a yellow screen or did anyone pick up an 11 pro that has a nicer screen?
 

YellowApple

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Sep 23, 2019
12
4
The best fix (for me): Like many, the display on my 11 Pro was dingy gray when compared to the pristine, crisp cool white of my iPhone X. I was using the same blue background for both phones as my wallpaper on the lock screen. This is what I did to mostly fix the problem: I looked for a stark white background on my iPhone X, turned the brightness up to 100% and took a screenshot. I then airdropped the screenshot to my 11 Pro and set the stark white screenshot as the wallpaper on my lock screen (I did not overwrite the blue wallpaper on other screens, only the lock screen). I turned off True Tone and turned on Auto Brightness. I then did a hard reboot. Now the shade of the display on my iPhone 11 Pro is virtually the same as the iPhone X at equal brightness. I hope this helps someone.
 

jimmy_uk

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Oct 19, 2015
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The best fix (for me): Like many, the display on my 11 Pro was dingy gray when compared to the pristine, crisp cool white of my iPhone X. I was using the same blue background for both phones as my wallpaper on the lock screen. This is what I did to mostly fix the problem: I looked for a stark white background on my iPhone X, turned the brightness up to 100% and took a screenshot. I then airdropped the screenshot to my 11 Pro and set the stark white screenshot as the wallpaper on my lock screen (I did not overwrite the blue wallpaper on other screens, only the lock screen). I turned off True Tone and turned on Auto Brightness. I then did a hard reboot. Now the shade of the display on my iPhone 11 Pro is virtually the same as the iPhone X at equal brightness. I hope this helps someone.

Wha..? Are you suggesting you've recalibrated your display because you changed the lockscreen wallpaper? Or recalibrated your eyes?
 

seaw

macrumors member
Jun 15, 2012
92
12
Wha..? Are you suggesting you've recalibrated your display because you changed the lockscreen wallpaper? Or recalibrated your eyes?
I also don’t quite understand what you did. Isn’t it more a hardware issue?
 

m0sher

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Mar 4, 2018
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My Oldest son purchased a 11 pro which arrived yesterday and we noticed there was a light yellow-ish tint in the whites.

When we turned ‘True Tone” off it noticeably went away.

I use true tone on my X and it doesn’t turn the screen slightly yellow in dimer light situations. We had both side by side and there was an obvious slightly less bright white.

A little disturbing for $1000 phone. I’m not sure if I should be returning his phone or if this is the norm with the 11’s.

I have a Max pro incoming, wonder if they all are doing this or is it some?

Is this normal?
 
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