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If you’re leaving iOS, a Chromebook is a great replacement for an iPad (and depending on what you do maybe a Mac in the future due to Linux apps).
 

Shanghaichica

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No because I’m too deep into the Apple ecosystem. The only one of may devices that I would consider changing is my phone but I’d loose out on the benefits of the ecosystem. My other devices such as iPad, MacBook, Apple Watch etc are better than their android counterparts imo. The iphone is comparable to other android phones which is why the consideration is there but ultimately the ecosystem wins out.

I have just bought a google home mini though which is arriving today. Thought I’d give it a go. I already have a HomePod and Alexa so might as well give the google home a shot. Interesting to see how it works with my chromecast.
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In my opinion, those are switched. Windows 10 is a nightmare for me.
I agree. I could never use a windows computer again. Buggy, unreliable, slow, Don’t last. That’s been my ongoing experience with windows machines. I’ve had my MacBook for 3 years now and it’s still as good as the day I bought it.
 

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No because I’m too deep into the Apple ecosystem. The only one of may devices that I would consider changing is my phone but I’d loose out on the benefits of the ecosystem. My other devices such as iPad, MacBook, Apple Watch etc are better than their android counterparts imo. The iphone is comparable to other android phones which is why the consideration is there but ultimately the ecosystem wins out.

I have just bought a google home mini though which is arriving today. Thought I’d give it a go. I already have a HomePod and Alexa so might as well give the google home a shot. Interesting to see how it works with my chromecast.
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I agree. I could never use a windows computer again. Buggy, unreliable, slow, Don’t last. That’s been my ongoing experience with windows machines. I’ve had my MacBook for 3 years now and it’s still as good as the day I bought it.

I'm an heavy Apple User but please: Windows is objectively NOT buggy, unreliable and slow, but macOS (as well as Office on macOS and iOS)! Also: Should we speak about the very, very bad reliability of the MacBooks with butterfly keyboard? Since the iPhone 4 and the iPad 2 I had to change EVERY TIME the iPhone and the iPad because of hardware issues. At now the iPhone X and the iPad 10.5 have no issues. Again: the SSD of my MacBook Air stopped to work and needed to be changed –> I lost everything. My brother has a MacBook Retina with "the" display failure.…
 
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Oohara

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Yes. Text input on my 7+ is still inferior to what I had using Swype with my Note 2, five years ago. And as I write A LOT on my phone, I've finally decided I've had it and will go for a Galaxy Note the next time. I was going to already when I bought my 7+ but the Note 7 fire debacle made me doubt things + I got a deal on a really nice bluetooth speaker for free with the iPhone so I caved. Have been regretting it since but been traveling too much to have time to sell the thing properly. (The speaker has been great though, so kinda not regretting that part :p)

Note that I write in three languages in equal amounts pretty much every day and multi-language is what I've always found Swype to handle exceptionally well compared to all other keyboards, including Gboard on my iPhone. The iOS version of Swype though doesn't come close, it also doesn't have the awesome copy/paste swipe from the Android version.

Will enjoy other things as well when I do go back to Android, like being able to toggle my hotspot, mobile data, roaming etc etc immediately from the home screen instead of diving into iOS' uninviting settings menus.

Not going to miss the ecosystem very much. I find myself wearing my Apple Watch less and less because I'm tired of its looks and Siri just never gets it right, and most iPhone/Watch > Mac functionality has been a constant glitch fest requiring endless reboots, resets and whatnot, to the point where I just don't bother anymore.

Definitely keeping my MBP 15" 2015 though. I have a great ThinkPad too but I'll always turn to the Mac for anything but my Windows-only work software, it's just so damn smooth to operate and the screen + speakers just kill my PC by comparison.

But yeah. iOS has gotta go. There's just too much awesome functionality that it could have but just isn't allowed to, and it frankly drives me nuts.

Oh yeah, and don't even get me started on the headphone jack. Even one 8 hours cross Atlantic haul largely without my iPhone games, music & movies because I didn't have time to recharge it is unforgivable. And no I'm not about to replace my awesome noise cancelling Bose headphones by paying again for a bluetooth kit. This simply should not be an either/or choice. I don't want to have one of those "Oh **** it's not charged, no music for u" moments ever again.
 
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I'm an heavy Apple User but please: Windows is objectively NOT buggy, unreliable and slow, but macOS (as well as Office on macOS and iOS)! Also: Should we speak about the very, very bad reliability of the MacBooks with butterfly keyboard? Since the iPhone 4 and the iPad 2 I had to change EVERY TIME the iPhone and the iPad because of hardware issues. At now the iPhone X and the iPad 10.5 have no issues. Again: the SSD of my MacBook Air stopped to work and needed to be changed –> I lost everything. My brother has a MacBook Retina with "the" display failure.…

As a person who plays tech support for normal people? Yeah, it’s atill buggy and it still runs like crap. My sister was using a Kaby Lake laptop that would bog down whenever Windows update ran in the background. She was so happy when I gave her a MBP from 2015 because it doesn’t randomly slow down for no reason.
 

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I'm an heavy Apple User but please: Windows is objectively NOT buggy, unreliable and slow, but macOS (as well as Office on macOS and iOS)! Also: Should we speak about the very, very bad reliability of the MacBooks with butterfly keyboard? Since the iPhone 4 and the iPad 2 I had to change EVERY TIME the iPhone and the iPad because of hardware issues. At now the iPhone X and the iPad 10.5 have no issues. Again: the SSD of my MacBook Air stopped to work and needed to be changed –> I lost everything. My brother has a MacBook Retina with "the" display failure.…
I have HP all in one with the latest specs and it has been fantastic. No lag no stutters. It has been every bit as good as the iMac it replaced. But for $600 less than current iMacs and it has a touchscreen display. For user experience it has been a beast of a machine.
 
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No because I’m too deep into the Apple ecosystem. The only one of may devices that I would consider changing is my phone but I’d loose out on the benefits of the ecosystem. My other devices such as iPad, MacBook, Apple Watch etc are better than their android counterparts imo. The iphone is comparable to other android phones which is why the consideration is there but ultimately the ecosystem wins out.

I have just bought a google home mini though which is arriving today. Thought I’d give it a go. I already have a HomePod and Alexa so might as well give the google home a shot. Interesting to see how it works with my chromecast.
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I agree. I could never use a windows computer again. Buggy, unreliable, slow, Don’t last. That’s been my ongoing experience with windows machines. I’ve had my MacBook for 3 years now and it’s still as good as the day I bought it.
I've been using google assistant on my iPhone and iPad and works really well for what I would use it for.

plan to get a google mini as well. It just works too well over Siri currently. I love my homepod but that for me was always about music and sound than using it like I would google assistant.
 

dball4

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I’m strongly considering selling my X and switching to an S9+ because I’m getting tired of all the glitches I’m having with iOS.
 

Dodgeman

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I’m strongly considering selling my X and switching to an S9+ because I’m getting tired of all the glitches I’m having with iOS.

S9 plus is a great device. However I do like the MacBook qnd iPad over Microsoft & Android offerings in that category.
 

Dodgeman

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Silly question, but I'll ask it anyway. What do you use your MacBook for?

I just got it recenetly. I plan to use it for any document type of work. I have used it so far to save a picture from an email and upload to an expense report. I also have downloaded certain apps that I use (office. ased stuff). I planned on also using it for movies if I travel.

The macbook is a stretch and I could get a solid windows 2 in 1 with the same specs for half the cost but only issue is windows. With windows there are no apps I used on the ipad, no movie downloads, and seems a bit more difficult to work with.

I am actually considering posibly getting a chromebook only because I do not need much and if I can download the google apps i use it would suit me just as good as the macbook. Only other issue I have is the chromebook has very, very limited space.
 

Michael Goff

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I just got it recenetly. I plan to use it for any document type of work. I have used it so far to save a picture from an email and upload to an expense report. I also have downloaded certain apps that I use (office. ased stuff). I planned on also using it for movies if I travel.

The macbook is a stretch and I could get a solid windows 2 in 1 with the same specs for half the cost but only issue is windows. With windows there are no apps I used on the ipad, no movie downloads, and seems a bit more difficult to work with.

I am actually considering posibly getting a chromebook only because I do not need much and if I can download the google apps i use it would suit me just as good as the macbook. Only other issue I have is the chromebook has very, very limited space.

If you’re willing to throw money at it, you can get a Chromebook with a Core M processor and 128gb of storage or an upgraded 512.
 

borgranta

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I am pretty happy with my iPhone, but I don't like certain things about Apple's politics, nor do I appreciate things like the 3.5mm jack disappearing from my iPhone and the quality that macOS has suffered recently.

Others also complain that things like the Mac Pro, the Mac mini, and the MacBook Air have not seen an upgrade since as long ago as 2013.

Are you contemplating other choices or are you married to the Mac ecosystem? As with my iPhones, I've been very happy with my Macs since I switched. I haven't upgraded past the 6s, however, but I had purchased every iPhone since the 3GS.

As for where to go...I don't like Android. I would probably only switch if it was to a Linux phone. I can do without the App Store.
The iPhone 4s is my first iPhone which I received for free from a family member. Based on my experience it is more responsive when dealing with email than any other Android or PC especially since I could delete my entire inbox if I wanted to almost instantly so for that reason I would never give up iOS since Android is a nightmare with email when compared to to iOS. If you must opt for a device than Samsung Galaxy may be the best option since the ability to sort email alphabetically by sender or subject rivals the abilities of Microsoft Outlook. Samsung email does not always behave itself and may require being forced closed maybe more than once. One time it took half a dozen times of clearing memory and/or force closing in order to use the email. Also deleting hundreds of emails can be extremely troublesome. If deleting hundreds of emails it may be better to use Microsoft Outlook or iOS since both seem to work better than Android in such a task.
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If you’re willing to throw money at it, you can get a Chromebook with a Core M processor and 128gb of storage or an upgraded 512.
I would rather pay $499 for the mac mini than pay for computer that becomes completely unusable during an INTERNET outage.
 

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The iPhone 4s is my first iPhone which I received for free from a family member. Based on my experience it is more responsive when dealing with email than any other Android or PC especially since I could delete my entire inbox if I wanted to almost instantly so for that reason I would never give up iOS since Android is a nightmare with email when compared to to iOS. If you must opt for a device than Samsung Galaxy may be the best option since the ability to sort email alphabetically by sender or subject rivals the abilities of Microsoft Outlook. Samsung email does not always behave itself and may require being forced closed maybe more than once. One time it took half a dozen times of clearing memory and/or force closing in order to use the email. Also deleting hundreds of emails can be extremely troublesome. If deleting hundreds of emails it may be better to use Microsoft Outlook or iOS since both seem to work better than Android in such a task.
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I would rather pay $499 for the mac mini than pay for computer that becomes completely unusable during an INTERNET outage.

So you know nothing about Chromebooks, I take it.
 

borgranta

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iPhone is the warm bath. Sometime I think "gosh, I'd like to get out of the water" but you start to get out, and it's very cold, so you get back in.

As far as going to anything outside of iOS and Android, I'll pass.
If choosing Android be warned compatibility of certain apps can vary wildly from phone to phone. For example I have a Samsung tablet and Kyocera smart phone running Android 4.4.2 but the Kyocera phone is not compatible with Star Trek Timelines and yet the Samsung tablet is. The iPhone 4s is compatible but the game causes the phone to heat up.
 

Michael Goff

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If choosing Android be warned compatibility of certain apps can vary wildly from phone to phone. For example I have a Samsung tablet and Kyocera smart phone running Android 4.4.2 but the Kyocera phone is not compatible with Star Trek Timelines and yet the Samsung tablet is. The iPhone 4s is compatible but the game causes the phone to heat up.

If you're running a somewhat mainstream phone, you'll be fine. And why are you using a phone that's that old from a minor OEM anyway?
 

borgranta

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So you know nothing about Chromebooks, I take it.
I did my research on chrome books and am aware that many of the apps require an Internet connection to function including the office productivity apps. Even Android has apps that can work offline.
 

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The only thing I can't decide is which phone I'm going to trade my iPhone X in for.

A Galaxy S9+
A Note 9
A Pixel 3XL

Pixel 3XL is probably what I'm leaning toward. It'll launch with Android P, get Android Q, and get Android R all on release date. Plus no Bixby button (my gf can't stand hers on the S8), plus no carrier bloat.
 

Michael Goff

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The only thing I can't decide is which phone I'm going to trade my iPhone X in for.

A Galaxy S9+
A Note 9
A Pixel 3XL

Pixel 3XL is probably what I'm leaning toward. It'll launch with Android P, get Android Q, and get Android R all on release date. Plus no Bixby button (my gf can't stand hers on the S8), plus no carrier bloat.

Let's hope this is the year when Google sorts out their hardware.
 
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Wildo6882

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Why not an LG G7 ThinQ?

I'm in the same sort of boat. I'm really wanting to ditch Apple and my iPhone X but there isn't that ONE phone right now that can lure me away. I like the G7, from what I've seen, but I don't know if I'll be able to buy one as I'm on AT&T. I also want to wait for the OP6, but I'm always a little leery of their camera and support. And the Pixels still carry a decent enough premium that it isn't worth it to buy one now, knowing I'll just want the 3 or 3XL in October. I do like the S9/S9+, but I hate their update cycle.
 
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