Well, to cite one example, my dad has pretty much commandeered my 5k imac and he mostly uses it to watch youtube and browse the web. The same stuff he does on his Xiaomi tablet. That’s one reason I am in no hurry to upgrade; he’s not going to benefit from the improved performance anyways.
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Well, to cite one example, my dad has pretty much commandeered my 5k imac and he mostly uses it to watch youtube and browse the web. The same stuff he does on his Xiaomi tablet. That’s one reason I am in no hurry to upgrade; he’s not going to benefit from the improved performance anyways.
Nope. I think my only thing is, I can't justify upgrading my 4th gen to the M4, especially after getting a new battery installed. It works great as my main driver for doing commissions and personal artwork when out of the house.
I'm sure if we didn't just buy a new car and planning on fleeing Ohio next year, I would have plugged and upgraded.
I'm sure if we didn't just buy a new car and planning on fleeing Ohio next year, I would have plugged and upgraded.
I'll never throw laptop-level money at a higher spec iPad unless it actually can perform like one. But, my iPad 9 still does everything I expected it to do before WWDC, and I wasn't actually expecting anything new for it. I was glad to get hints it'll still get updates for a couple more years, but as a media consumption device I expect streamers and book apps to support it for a long time, yet. In fact, I may only upgrade when it stops being useful for some of my mobile games.
BTW, I think there are only two things I actively miss from the Android ecosystem (still have an Android phone, but I mostly set aside my Android tablet and an Android ereader). One is the way we interact with notifications. The other is the ability to just plug in my device to my laptop, authenticate on the device, and then have access to a filesystem like it's a flash drive, so I can just throw stuff on there and go. If I'm going to pay extra for more disk space, I want to be able to use it to move data between machines easily.
BTW, I think there are only two things I actively miss from the Android ecosystem (still have an Android phone, but I mostly set aside my Android tablet and an Android ereader). One is the way we interact with notifications. The other is the ability to just plug in my device to my laptop, authenticate on the device, and then have access to a filesystem like it's a flash drive, so I can just throw stuff on there and go. If I'm going to pay extra for more disk space, I want to be able to use it to move data between machines easily.
For me nothing changed because my expectations were low
Apple is more interested in hawking multiple devices to you than making devices so good that you could purchase just one (or less overall) and accomplish your goals as well (or better) than before.
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They aren't concerned with making the best products for customers as a primary goal anymore.
Apple is more interested in hawking multiple devices to you than making devices so good that you could purchase just one (or less overall) and accomplish your goals as well (or better) than before.
i.e.
They aren't concerned with making the best products for customers as a primary goal anymore.
I agree with this. I always liked that too and coming from the Nokia N900 before that, the iPhone was significantly more limited for file transfers. It’s not something I think about often, but it was nice.
OTOH the iPad accepts flash drives
Nope, not bored with my M1 iPad Pro. I use it more than my MacBook Pro
No, because my iPad Pro M4 is the best Apple product I have bought since the 2018 iPad Pro. It’s that great. I go days without using my MacBook, but this iPad will get daily use for years
yeah... though I haven't bought the $30 adapter for USB (my 9 uses lightning). Buying an $80 1TB USB-C SSD dongle is certainly a better deal for sneakernet.
UPDATE...i really tried hard to keep the 11 inch M4. I really did. It in and of itself is not a bad machine in any way...but the problem is....its just a bigger less portable version of my Iphone 15 pro max!
It has a wonderful screen...no doubt there.....Its fast too...but not any faster or slower then my phone. I do enjoy the ocasional note taking on it, but outside of that, i just cant justifie it at all for MY USE.
I want to love this device. i want to still be in love with ipads, but i'm not. I truly do wish they would just become hybrid tablet/laptop devices!
Id love a foldable iPhone that opens into an Ipad mini. Id love a macbook pro that detaches off the base and becomes an ipad.
Other companies make these devices...problem is they are usually running android or Windows. Uck.
It is still at the end of the day just a bigger version of my phone with a pencil and its been that way for years and i dont see that changing anytime soon.
Sorry if that pisses you all off but tough! Apple CAN do better.
It has a wonderful screen...no doubt there.....Its fast too...but not any faster or slower then my phone. I do enjoy the ocasional note taking on it, but outside of that, i just cant justifie it at all for MY USE.
I want to love this device. i want to still be in love with ipads, but i'm not. I truly do wish they would just become hybrid tablet/laptop devices!
Id love a foldable iPhone that opens into an Ipad mini. Id love a macbook pro that detaches off the base and becomes an ipad.
Other companies make these devices...problem is they are usually running android or Windows. Uck.
It is still at the end of the day just a bigger version of my phone with a pencil and its been that way for years and i dont see that changing anytime soon.
Sorry if that pisses you all off but tough! Apple CAN do better.
May be just a big phone to you, which btw is just your opinion, but to me it is soooo much more. Being able to take care of my real estate business for the past two years with my M1 iPP 11 is just priceless to me. Replacing my cumbersome 2019 16" I9 MBP was a real load off. It's like having my office with me when I have my iPad out in the field. I mean, everything I need for my real estate work is included in what is my opinion, Apple's most useful and flexible device ever. Even takes care of my personal and entertainment needs.
My mobile needs are fully covered with my iPP. I love using it, I love the workflow it gives me for my real estate work, I love that it's just fun to use. Also love that it replaced three other things I need for my work...camera for house listings in the mls, a scanner, and a pad of paper. I could replace my MBP with my tablet computer, but there is no way a MBP could replace my iPP for the work I do. There are things a laptop just cannot do....like turn to portrait orientation, take photos, scan documents, sketching property and house dimensions, filling and signing contracts, pdf's, and documents, marking up pdf's, taking hand written notes, etc.
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Why should it piss us off? You have your own opinion on it and it doesn't work for you but that in no way affects my usage or like of my M4 13" - I think it's a great device. It's to each his own.
As a professional who has delved deeply into Apple's frameworks, I can tell you the blame for this rests squarely on developers. Apple has provided amazing tools. Even the best iPad apps only scratch the Surface (see what I did there?) of what is possible with a touch-enabled device.
I’m not bored by iPadOS because I don’t use operating systems to entertain myself. I would have like to see more features sure, but given the little features we got are pretty great, and Apple Intelligence, I’m happy enough.
You gave it a shot and it’s not providing enough value to your tasks, fair enough. Luckily there are way cheaper iPads on offer that do mostly the same stuff should priorities change.
You said it yourself: "MY USE" — that's fair enough. No device is for everyone. There are people who don't like the Pro Max, and you love it.
But there is some suggestion that "user doing it wrong" is coming into play here. You've said at least twice in this post alone that the iPad is a big phone. Granted, not everyone needs to use all of its features, but objectively the iPad is more than the iPhone — for example I was looking at houses last night and using Stage Manager I had the listings open on one side, and Maps open on the other. On my iPhone (also a PM, by the way) I'd have to be app switching to do that. I could then take a screenshot using a gesture and use the Pencil to annotate that screenshot, or write notes.
That's just one minor example of how it isn't the same as the phone.
Again this isn't to suggest you need an iPad. You tried it and it's not for you, so that's completely valid. What I'm getting at is, if our brains suggest a limitation, it can be hard to see past it. If you really think the iPad is a larger iPhone then it'll be difficult to use it beyond those abilities.
As one experiment for instance, have you tried connecting a flash drive to the iPad and moving a file on or off? Something very simple like that can help shift the paradigm of how you view the devices.
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When I were a kid, all computers filled rooms. These things what yaz carries round wit ya, and what sits on yaz desk… dems ain’t computers.
—Gedt Offa-Mylawn
The flaw isn’t in the iPad, but in people’s expectations—their expectations don’t align with Apple’s intent.
iPads are also mature devices now—the novelty has largely long since worn off since they were first introduced. It has long since become a matter of tweaking and mostly incremental upgrades. There is only so much you can do with a digital slate.
iPads are also mature devices now—the novelty has largely long since worn off since they were first introduced. It has long since become a matter of tweaking and mostly incremental upgrades. There is only so much you can do with a digital slate.
MS's Digital Slate, Dell's Digital Slate, Lenovo's Digital Slates, MinisForum's Digital Slate, Samsung's Galaxy Book 12, all run a full desktop OS and can productively do anything any laptop or desktop can do.
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Like Steve Jobs said in 2010:
- The iPad is NOT a notebook
- The iPad is NOT a phone
- The iPad is BETWEEN both
For me, the iPad is STILL a device that do certain things better than a computer, and certain things better than a phone, like he said, especially on the go.
- Web
- Photos
- Videos
- Music
- Reading
- Mobile games
In productivity:
- Viewing/Reviewing Mail and Documents
When I need to do REAL work, or when I need to reply to an email, I sit in my desktop and simply use my computer, like I have been done in the past 40 years.
The end.
- The iPad is NOT a notebook
- The iPad is NOT a phone
- The iPad is BETWEEN both
For me, the iPad is STILL a device that do certain things better than a computer, and certain things better than a phone, like he said, especially on the go.
- Web
- Photos
- Videos
- Music
- Reading
- Mobile games
In productivity:
- Viewing/Reviewing Mail and Documents
When I need to do REAL work, or when I need to reply to an email, I sit in my desktop and simply use my computer, like I have been done in the past 40 years.
The end.
Ah here we go with the real work nonsense again, wonderful.
The iPad is tablet computer with a touch first OS...nothing more, nothing less. What people do with it, or more specifically what they can or can't do with it, depends on their own personal circumstances, needs, workflow, and creativity.
Been doing real work on my M1 iPad Pro for the past 2 1/2 years. Sold my 2019 16" I9 MBP in Dec. 2021 after discovering I liked my new iPad Pro for taking care of the mobile needs of my real estate and property management business better....much better, and have never looked back.
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Some here disagree with you. So what. That is how conversation and life works. Disengaging because more people didn't agree with you and post some hyperbole, is no way to go through life.
1) Stand your ground when positing a preference or conviction until and unless you have been shown to be in error.
2) Appreciate and accept some other people will always disagree with you no matter what is said.
3) Don't allow internet strangers to control your emotions and reactions. Be your own person.
4) Learn from those here who may have experience and knowledge with certain subjects.
5) Have fun on MR.
What kind of apps are you using for your real estate business on your M1 iPP 11! Thanks for sharing your usage! I have a 2018 iPP 11, but just updated to an M1 iPP 11.
I use ZipForm, ShowingTime, Paragon for local MLS, PDF Expert, MS Office 365, Affinity Photo 2, CollaNote, Adobe Scan, and Safari.
You also a Realtor?