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Anyone else sick of Safari?
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Safari is great, but i'm generally a stock browser guy.
i'm also using Edge at work and on my now retired Win 7 laptop which might have some nice extensions, but workflow and integration wise, i prefer Safari
i'm also using Edge at work and on my now retired Win 7 laptop which might have some nice extensions, but workflow and integration wise, i prefer Safari
I just don’t use it. When they killed extension support, I switched away, and when they brought it back, some of the extensions I use daily didn’t return. Now I use Edge, although I’m hoping Firefox will catch up to Edge’s low power usage as I’d prefer to support Mozilla than MSFT.
I've been using FireFox so long (even before it was FF and it was navigator) that anything else feels weird. I've never really liked safari, it started out aweful, things didn't work. And I feel that it still partly true even today even though it is better. I've regulated it to simple tasks only. Chrome I basically stay away from unless I'm testing something or as a last resort to check if something is working or not. Even chrome based versions I don't bother with.
Back to Safari, on the iphone it works quite well and I have no need for other browsers there, but I don't browse much on my phone or other devices as usually apps fill most of those needs.
Like others have said plenty of options to try.
Back to Safari, on the iphone it works quite well and I have no need for other browsers there, but I don't browse much on my phone or other devices as usually apps fill most of those needs.
Like others have said plenty of options to try.
Curious. Which web standard functions are you having to work around for Safari?
No, but Blink (browser engine) is, (or more precisely, WebCore, part of WebKit). Blink is Chromium's browser engine.
You should list down, what are “so many websites” that just refused to load properly, so other users can test them out.
No, because if not for Webkit and Mozilla Google would dictate internet standards.
I use the AdGuard extension for Safari and it's probably because you have it setup to start when the computer boots. You don't need to do that and will still work. I've never had AdGuard in my menubar.
More context from AdGuard's website on why they have to do what they do with their extensions and why other adblockers have basically disappeared from being updated or created on the App Store. A good example of why MacOS Safari extensions are very, very far behind.
"As you might remember, Apple has put limitations on ad blockers for Safari, particularly it allowed them to use only 50,000 filtering rules simultaneously. Don’t be deceived with this seemingly big number – actually, it’s too small. Luckily, there is a way to bypass this restriction. One ad blocker can be divided into several content blockers each containing up to 50K rules. This measure seems appropriate."
kb.adguard.com
"As you might remember, Apple has put limitations on ad blockers for Safari, particularly it allowed them to use only 50,000 filtering rules simultaneously. Don’t be deceived with this seemingly big number – actually, it’s too small. Luckily, there is a way to bypass this restriction. One ad blocker can be divided into several content blockers each containing up to 50K rules. This measure seems appropriate."
General | AdGuard Knowledge Base
This article is about AdGuard for Safari, which safeguards only your Safari browser. To protect your entire device, download the AdGuard app
I'm not sick of it, it's my default browser. Not sure what kind of sites you go to, but the websites I frequent (including this one) all work fine.
99% of them are terrible, have little to no features, subscription based/in-app purchases or outdated. Even ABP which is hugely popular with a lot of people has issues. I've tested and researched adblockers on Chrome and Safari on/off for the last year so I think I have a pretty good idea but I guess I'll have to trust you telling me I have no idea.
Find me a FREE (no in-app purchases) adblocker extension similar to AdGuard or uBlock Origin for Safari on MacOS that actually has more than a handful of reviews...
AdBlock Pro: Safari Ad Blocker
Save data and speed up your Safari - block ads, trackers, unnecessary resources and bypass anti-adblock detectors. Say goodbye to: • ads and banners • autoplay videos • fake "x" buttons • scrolling banners • timed popups • redirects to "xxx" websites • YouTube video ads in Safari •...
apps.apple.com
Having done the same research myself I couldn't agree more. The suggestion above is even better than most of the paid ones.
Apple users pay for any crap extension literally, so that, plus having to use Apple's API, which complicates more than it delivers, has set the extensions features/quality as low as it can get.
I cannot stand Safari anymore after getting used to Chrome. People complain it's a memory hog, resource intensive, etc., but it simply is a better browser for me. I have a work and a personal profile that allows me to separate bookmarks and logins (using LastPass), which Safari doesn't allow me to do.
I've not found any significant memory or slowness issues with Chrome. I believe a recent article compared it with Safari and it was faster. Of course, if you rely on always using the fastest whatever, you'll be constantly switching as it flips back and forth between apps all the time.
I've not found any significant memory or slowness issues with Chrome. I believe a recent article compared it with Safari and it was faster. Of course, if you rely on always using the fastest whatever, you'll be constantly switching as it flips back and forth between apps all the time.
I no longer use Safari on my 2009 Mac Pro. I have xfinity gigabit internet hard wired to the computer and my top download speed on xfinity speedtest is 308mbps. Switching over to Chrome I get speeds of 864 mbps. I’ve had xfinity come and check it with a pc laptop and they obtained the same results. On my iphone 12 and iPad Air I use Safari. The speeds on those devices for the two different browsers are comparable between devices.
For a simple reason that Chromium is superior browser and V8 is the fastest JavaScript engine in existence with no one else coming even close. As long as this is true, other browsers will lag far behind the Chrome and Chromium based browsers
And this is coming from someone who dislikes everything Google but have to admit the truth no matter how uncomfortable it might be
I completely disagree. I actually prefer Safari's plug-in architecture for privacy reasons.
1Blocker is fantastic. Yes, it requires a subscription, but it also supports family sharing. The developer needs to make "something" for their efforts.
Safari plus 1Blocker is a fantastic combination. I have a lifetime subscription to 1Blocker. Works across Mac, iPad, iPhone.
It blocks trackers, cookies, ads, etc. And because it uses the Safari plug-in architecture, 1Blocker doesn't "read" your webpages. It instead sets all of the rules that Safari will use (what parts of the HTML to ignore), so 1Blocker doesn't need to have access to your data. (Wipr works in a similar way).
And yes, once you have Safari exclude all the trackers, ads etc, all webpages load faster!! You can always set your default search engine to DuckDuckGo to avoid Google as well.
I found that Adguard also works pretty well..allthough, must admit, it works better in Chromium, but decent performance in Safari too.