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Quit pushing slop on to the customer.
Quit pushing slop on to the customer.
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anyone else think Big Sur mail sucks?
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I'm having trouble using the search feature which is very important to me.
It still didn't work.
HOWEVER:
I indexed my hard drive and now it is working.
I expect it to fail again but for now it's seems to be ok.
Here are the directions I followed:
Rebuild the Spotlight index on your Mac - Apple Support
If you get unexpected results when searching your Mac, rebuilding the Spotlight index might help.
I know it's crazy but I don't want to get finger prints on the screen before I put on a screen protector.
As it turned out, the Lifeproof Fre case I wanted has been reviewed as junk that does not allow face detection.
I have a Otterbox Defender Pro and an Otterbox Amplify screen protector and I am thrilled.
Coming from an iPhone 6 - the 12 Pro is incredible.
EDIT:
Search stopped working again.
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Has anyone had an issue with the colored flags in Apple's mail client with Big Sur? For my business, I use various flag colors to denote things like priority and how long I plan to keep an email. Yesterday, I was flagging a few emails on my iPad, and noticed a bit later that a flag I made blue had turned back to red. I went on my iMac and discovered that hundreds of emails all had their flags changed from some color to red. Well I'm ******. Probably way too much work to fix it back on each email. Don't know if the problem was caused by a bug on the iPad, iMac or iCloud Or if I have a faulty expectation that if I set a flag color on an email, that it should remain that color. I just wish that roll out of operating system and app updates didn't destroy stuff that had previously worked.
I just updated to 11.2.
I can search my email now.
Lets see how long this lasts.
It has worked on occasion after some tricks and tips but I'm hoping they really fixed it now.
My Spotlight is quicker now, also.
Edit:
In the past, Mail would have reverted to being broken again by now.
It's still working.
Search is still working.
The work around I was using during the failure was so log in to my email website portal and search from there.
It was a hassle to enter my user name and PW all the time to get in. Then I had to note the date of said email and find it in my Mail app on my mac.
All is well.
Regarding the troubles with Flagged emails, my emails are still properly categorized by the original flag colors.
Since I can search now, I can at least look up flagged emails and use my Smart Email Boxes which have not worked for some time before 11.2.
I can search my email now.
Lets see how long this lasts.
It has worked on occasion after some tricks and tips but I'm hoping they really fixed it now.
My Spotlight is quicker now, also.
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In the past, Mail would have reverted to being broken again by now.
It's still working.
Search is still working.
The work around I was using during the failure was so log in to my email website portal and search from there.
It was a hassle to enter my user name and PW all the time to get in. Then I had to note the date of said email and find it in my Mail app on my mac.
All is well.
Regarding the troubles with Flagged emails, my emails are still properly categorized by the original flag colors.
Since I can search now, I can at least look up flagged emails and use my Smart Email Boxes which have not worked for some time before 11.2.
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I just updated to 11.2, and now my email search doesn't work....at all. Worked fine before tho. But it's cool...I mean...not like I'd ever need to search thru emails or something...
For anyone on 11.3 beta: Has the control-click option to "Open link behind Mail" disappeared for you, too? Now I just get "Open Link," and it either doesn't work, or opens the link actually within the open Mail message. Very weird.
I spoke too soon.
I should have known.
Search is broken again!!!
Maybe because I have 15,000 emails in just one account.
I hate having to do searches on the web portal for my email because I don't like logging in.
I'm scared of having my PW hacked.
If your webmail has https then it's relatively secure. Don't forget, Apple Mail is also logging in to your provider very few minutes.
Is anybody else experiencing this bug with notifications in Mail under Big Sur?
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Apple Seeds First Public Beta of macOS Big Sur 11.3
I'm hoping against all the odds that the long standing Notifications bug in Mail.app might get fixed in 11.3, finally! The only way I can get some kind of notification of new mail is by disabling "Play sounds for other mail actions" in Mail's preferences". If I enable it I get nothing from...
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For those who use Gmail and also want a good, native macOS client (unlike crap like Airmail, Spark, Polymail, Canary), try Mimestream. It's made by ex Apple employees that worked on Apples Mail app (even the old manager).
After the previous best mac email client = (Sparrow) was bought off the market by Google, there was a long gap of no good alternatives. Tried them all, in the end I did switch to Airmail because it's rich feature set suited my requirements, but it is (still) actually full of bugs and very slow. I also found Airmails support quite arrogant when trying to help/report bugs.
So far, Mimestream appears to be better and a lot faster. In terms of privacy it's also a big improvement. The only big downside I see so far is that it only supports Gmail-API, no universal IMAP.
After the previous best mac email client = (Sparrow) was bought off the market by Google, there was a long gap of no good alternatives. Tried them all, in the end I did switch to Airmail because it's rich feature set suited my requirements, but it is (still) actually full of bugs and very slow. I also found Airmails support quite arrogant when trying to help/report bugs.
So far, Mimestream appears to be better and a lot faster. In terms of privacy it's also a big improvement. The only big downside I see so far is that it only supports Gmail-API, no universal IMAP.
I'm trying out Spark, it’s pretty good though has some oddities of its own (e.g. doesn’t support Services, you can't drag an attachment to the Finder without first ensuring Spark has focus, I can’t easily see all the folders I have, and various other things) but at least the things that should work, do…
* I use “WordService” which I highly recommend for the system-wide ability to change text to upper/lower case etc.
* I use “WordService” which I highly recommend for the system-wide ability to change text to upper/lower case etc.
Does anyone think mail got better with the last Big Sur updates?
I am still having various problems:
- Mail gets unresponsive, e.g. when clicking on the delete button or on a right click to select the context menu
- The table header indicates, that the mails are sorted by date, but they are sorted by an other column, e.g. "from"
- When deleting or moving a mail that is in my inbox it is sometimes removed from the inbox, sometimes it is still shown in a gray color (hard to distinguish from the normal black)
I am still having various problems:
- Mail gets unresponsive, e.g. when clicking on the delete button or on a right click to select the context menu
- The table header indicates, that the mails are sorted by date, but they are sorted by an other column, e.g. "from"
- When deleting or moving a mail that is in my inbox it is sometimes removed from the inbox, sometimes it is still shown in a gray color (hard to distinguish from the normal black)
Absolutely not. Apart from changes to the GUI for some users, me included, there's a big problem with System Preferences - Notifications and new mail alert sounds and notiifications.
YMMV
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I wish someone would make a mail program that at least had the UI design from Mountain Lion. I'm so sick of round contact avatars and flat design. Even Thunderbird couldn't leave well enough alone!
So NO fix to this yet??? I CAN'T STAND it! WHY mess with something that isn't broken???
totally agree. I can't get used to the switch when I installed Big Sur a few weeks back. It's awful. I definitely won't be updating my other Mac air.
Same and I love the Mail client.
I am a long time Exchange Administrator from 4.0 - 2019. Microsoft Outlook is a bloated POS and only works "OK" on Windows. The Mac version is absolutely horrible.
On my Mac's I use the mail app for my @mac.com account and Webmail for my work Office 365 email.
I've tried several email alternatives—some of which I've really liked for a period of time—and keep reverting back to native Mail for a handful of simple but essential features, at least for me: color-coding by account in the unified inbox, smart suggestions for moving/filing mail that get more and more accurate over time, ability to customize main window, etc.
I just wish the columns would stay put.
I just wish the columns would stay put.
I wish Mail wouldn't oblige me to top post when replying.
A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in email?
Current favorite feature in Mail: Open Link Behind Mail. It's great to be able to access a referenced linked webpage without interrupting the email I'm reading.