Anyone Here Interested in the new Galaxy Phones

[billy the fish]

I always get the new Sammy phones and then revert back to the iPhone. Until Samsung can match Apple's aftermarket support in terms of OS updates and tech/warranty support there's no way I'll make it my primary phone.

in the UK the aftercare is fantastic.. hasn't the latest ios Updates been one bug after another?
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after owning S7 for a month with its glory hardware (4GB RAM, big battery, removal storage, OLED, water resistant), you will come to realize that you are burdened with these daily
1) TouchWiz
2) bloatware from Samsung and Carrier that eat away your RAM, cpu resources, battery burn.
3) slow update from Samsung and carriers
4) unpolished app cause memory leak, cpu usage and battery burn fast, in addition to bloatware above.

samsung is not a software company and has no control of the OS security or updates. unfortunately, both good software and hardware are required for a full package.

7 months Into my edge plus ownership, and it's as blazingly fast as day 1, never lags, has never crashed or frozen. I've disabled and hidden any carrier apps.. what you you going on about...obviously someone who hasn't used a galaxy since the s5. The s6 Had a complete redesign of touchwiz making it hugely lighter and faster.. ps when you have 4 gigs of ram, you can power tour way through anything..
Anyways how insecure are you today my friend that you have to come on here telling untruths in case someone you don't know.buys a different brand of phone.. jeez. .
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I'm definitely going for the S7 Edge...There are pros and cons to the iPhone and other Android based phones. Some say you have to worry about bloatware, wait for updates, bad OEM software and skins on top of Android blah blah blah, but the Samsung's, LG's, Sony's and Motorola's of the world are advancing technologies and pioneering new ones with every release...meanwhile Apple is making everyone yawn with their iPhones.
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1) TouchWiz: if you don't like it you can use Nova or another launcher
2) They offer more than just 16gb, plus expandable storage (so you don't have to worry too much about apps you don't use)
3) the phone runs fine out of the box, the updates aren't a big deal
4) apps work fine, more than enough power in the larger battery plus if the battery gets low it has superfast charging, plus wireless charging

Apple is beginning to bore many tech lovers and isn't really innovating at the speed other OEMs are...they have great software and hardware that work seamlessly together, but no Virtual Reality, no 360 degree cameras to have fun with, no robots to tinker with at home (like LG just announced), no wireless charging, no fast charging, no widgets, no expandable storage, no IR blaster to control peripherals, no removable battery, no curved edge display, no dual screen multi-tasking, no stylus, no dual screen displays, etc....

But but. But but. Erm. . Nope, you got me.. iphones Really don't pack any sort of punch these days do they.. (how do you do a yawn emoji)
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Looks surprisingly polished for a non-iPhone - but it's not an iPhone.

That's it's biggest plus point!!!!!!

 

[normanfox]

7 months Into my edge plus ownership, and it's as blazingly fast as day 1, never lags, has never crashed or frozen. I've disabled and hidden any carrier apps.. what you you going on about...obviously someone who hasn't used a galaxy since the s5. The s6 Had a complete redesign of touchwiz making it hugely lighter and faster.. ps when you have 4 gigs of ram, you can power tour way through anything..
Anyways how insecure are you today my friend that you have to come on here telling untruths in case someone you don't know.buys a different brand of phone.. jeez. .

your phone is 7 month new and it is still fast. Great!. let me know its performance in a year later when its value plummets faster than Samsung release their new flagship phone.

No matter how you spin it, TouchWiz is Samsung skin lipstick so that it has Samsung customization. This subject comes up in all forums discussion, not my own opinion.

your s6 just got updated to Marshmallow 6 when? last week? Android Nexus was updated in last Oct. that is nearly half of a year late. this gets worse as your phone get older. Note 5 is not even updated until Q1, March maybe.

all of performance and security updates are late so that Samsung/AT&T can test their bloatwares. well performance/security/features are not your priority since you got that 4GB of RAM that can blast through any security holes. you would need external storage since your bloatware is ever increasing in every update from AT&T and Samsung.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

your phone is 7 month new and it is still fast. Great!. let me know its performance in a year later when its value plummets faster than Samsung release their new flagship phone.

No matter how you spin it, TouchWiz is Samsung skin lipstick so that it has Samsung customization. This subject comes up in all forums discussion, not my own opinion.

your s6 just got updated to Marshmallow 6 when? last week? Android Nexus was updated in last Oct. that is nearly half of a year late. this gets worse as your phone get older. Note 5 is not even updated until Q1, March maybe.

all of performance and security updates are late so that Samsung/AT&T can test their bloatwares. well performance/security/features are not your priority since you got that 4GB of RAM that can blast through any security holes. you would need external storage since your bloatware is ever increasing in every update from AT&T and Samsung.

7 months is more than enough time to judge. I still have a S4 and Note 3 that I use occasionally on stock firmware, and it still pushes through with minimal lag. My S6 edge I had since release, doesn't even hiccup. It's performance is excellent, so I'm pretty sure the S7 will be near flawless.

 

[Dominican]

As I already own the S6 Edge and seeing that I paid over 800 USD for it only to find that a few months later the same phone is to be had for a fraction of the cost, I'm going to wait until the prices drop significantly. I don't want to be unreasonable this time around and save myself a few hundred dollars, even if that new version is quite remarkable and tempting.

s6 edge is 500 reason i wait months.

 

[normanfox]

7 months is more than enough time to judge. I still have a S4 and Note 3 that I use occasionally on stock firmware, and it still pushes through with minimal lag. My S6 edge I had since release, doesn't even hiccup. It's performance is excellent, so I'm pretty sure the S7 will be near flawless.

agree since Galaxy value lifespan is so short...

 

[billy the fish]

your phone is 7 month new and it is still fast. Great!. let me know its performance in a year later when its value plummets faster than Samsung release their new flagship phone.

No matter how you spin it, TouchWiz is Samsung skin lipstick so that it has Samsung customization. This subject comes up in all forums discussion, not my own opinion.

your s6 just got updated to Marshmallow 6 when? last week? Android Nexus was updated in last Oct. that is nearly half of a year late. this gets worse as your phone get older. Note 5 is not even updated until Q1, March maybe.

all of performance and security updates are late so that Samsung/AT&T can test their bloatwares. well performance/security/features are not your priority since you got that 4GB of RAM that can blast through any security holes. you would need external storage since your bloatware is ever increasing in every update from AT&T and Samsung.

Wow, you are really upset about this mate aintcha. . Do you want to have a sit down?
I was replying to the loon who said that one month old devices slow down.. what a guy eh ..
What on earth are you on about saying touchwiz is samsung's own customization and it is not just your opinion.. but widely known on forums.. der. . Are you suggesting that this is some sort of secret or rather folk are in denial. About it. We know it's an overlay. . Stock is dull as hell, I choose touchwiz everyday of the week thanks. . Don't be so caught up in updates, they bugger ios.devices up, and are not that important anymore on droids. Now.gwt some.hot milk and have an early.night mate.. x
Ps , I give my old phones to the wife, so resale value.is meaningless to me...

 

[normanfox]

Wow, you are really upset about this mate aintcha. . Do you want to have a sit down?
I was replying to the loon who said that one month old devices slow down.. what a guy eh ..
What on earth are you on about saying touchwiz is samsung's own customization and it is not just your opinion.. but widely known on forums.. der. . Are you suggesting that this is some sort of secret or rather folk are in denial. About it. We know it's an overlay. . Stock is dull as hell, I choose touchwiz everyday of the week thanks. . Don't be so caught up in updates, they bugger ios.devices up, and are not that important anymore on droids. Now.gwt some.hot milk and have an early.night mate.. x
Ps , I give my old phones to the wife, so resale value.is meaningless to me...

wow, no argument there. I don't want to waste more time debate if you love Touchwiz and hate updates. and you called yourself a techie? Do you even know Marshmallow allows app to be installed and storing app data in external storage? how about it allows bluetooth headset connected to android TV? If you call those are not important, Touchwiz is definitely designed for you.

passing an out-of-date, insecured phone to your wife, that is called family. you lost all of your credibility when it come to security and updates. what happens to your wife older phone, when you give your old one? down the toilet, what a way to spend your money.

 

[billy the fish]

wow, no argument there. I don't want to waste more time debate if you love Touchwiz and hate updates. and you called yourself a techie? Do you even know Marshmallow allows app to be installed and storing app data in external storage? how about it allows bluetooth headset connected to android TV? If you call those are not important, Touchwiz is definitely designed for you.

passing an out-of-date, insecured phone to your wife, that is called family. you lost all of your credibility when it come to security and updates. what happens to your wife older phone, when you give your old one? down the toilet, what a way to spend your money.

A) please quote the exact post where I called myself a techie. ...that said I imagine I could tech the kids at the. Genius bar a thing or two. ..
You really are angry aren't you my friend. . A s6 edge plus is now considered out of date..brilliant, what does that make the 6s+ then? Prehistoric? Lol , it got a security update a matter of weeks.ago, the 7th since I've had the phone... you are really caught up with these updates aren't you mate..
And are you really concerned what my good lady does with her old phone? Wow, you must be bored. . It goes to my elderly mother if that is OK, family recycling. . Or is that a crime in your eyes....

 

[spinedoc77]

your phone is 7 month new and it is still fast. Great!. let me know its performance in a year later when its value plummets faster than Samsung release their new flagship phone.

No matter how you spin it, TouchWiz is Samsung skin lipstick so that it has Samsung customization. This subject comes up in all forums discussion, not my own opinion.

your s6 just got updated to Marshmallow 6 when? last week? Android Nexus was updated in last Oct. that is nearly half of a year late. this gets worse as your phone get older. Note 5 is not even updated until Q1, March maybe.

all of performance and security updates are late so that Samsung/AT&T can test their bloatwares. well performance/security/features are not your priority since you got that 4GB of RAM that can blast through any security holes. you would need external storage since your bloatware is ever increasing in every update from AT&T and Samsung.

I can't say I disagree with you. As an AT&T Note 5 owner I'm extremely dissatisfied that my Note 5 won't likely get Marshmallow until April or May *IF* I'm lucky. It's unconscionable, and IMO a thinly veiled attempt to force users onto newer devices. The only reason I stick with the Note series is the S pen, otherwise I'd be long gone.

As for touchwiz, it gets a bad rap. It's pretty fast and smooth on my Note 5. It does lag down infrequently, but that's well worth it to have the increased functionality over iOS. Grab an app called Samsung disabler pro and you can disable all the Samsung and ATT bloatware. What is surprising to me is that some of that bloatware is actually useful though, but of course that depends on the user. Touchwiz in particular has many advantages and things I prefer over vanilla Android and I've grown to like it and even find some features absolutely indispensable.

 

[normanfox]

I can't say I disagree with you. As an AT&T Note 5 owner I'm extremely dissatisfied that my Note 5 won't likely get Marshmallow until April or May *IF* I'm lucky. It's unconscionable, and IMO a thinly veiled attempt to force users onto newer devices. The only reason I stick with the Note series is the S pen, otherwise I'd be long gone.

As for touchwiz, it gets a bad rap. It's pretty fast and smooth on my Note 5. It does lag down infrequently, but that's well worth it to have the increased functionality over iOS. Grab an app called Samsung disabler pro and you can disable all the Samsung and ATT bloatware. What is surprising to me is that some of that bloatware is actually useful though, but of course that depends on the user. Touchwiz in particular has many advantages and things I prefer over vanilla Android and I've grown to like it and even find some features absolutely indispensable.

I don't think they intentionally delay update to force people to upgrade. since Samsung does not control Android, they have to wait for Google to release update first. then they have to integrate with their own software, Touchwiz. then they have to coordinate with carriers to test carrier's own software/bloatware.

in corporate world, if one company depends on another to integrate and test, the process can be really slow. in this case, you have three in the dependency chain: Google, Samsung, Carrier. For apple, this is not a problem since they control all by themself, mostly. if one department is slow, their manager can be in trouble and fired. if carrier is dragging its feet, Samsung can't fire AT&T manager. they don't have interest in spending money/resource on old phones which do not attract new customers.

that was why Apple pushed it hard to eliminate carrier control of Iphone when they release the first iphone. iphone was only available on AT&T since Verison refused to give up their control on phones on their network, and their logo. The same to Japanese carrier a few years ago until they gave in and let Apple have its way.

 

[Zwhaler]

I like the fact that the SD card combines with the internal storage to just make one giant pool of storage. That's pretty awesome.

Adoptable storage is excluded from the new crop of Galaxy S7 devices
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I've thought about it but probably won't because of battery life and iMessage

You mean you wouldn't get an S7 because you prefer inferior battery life? The S7 has a larger battery than the 6 Plus.
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your phone is 7 month new and it is still fast. Great!. let me know its performance in a year later when its value plummets faster than Samsung release their new flagship phone.

No matter how you spin it, TouchWiz is Samsung skin lipstick so that it has Samsung customization. This subject comes up in all forums discussion, not my own opinion.

your s6 just got updated to Marshmallow 6 when? last week? Android Nexus was updated in last Oct. that is nearly half of a year late. this gets worse as your phone get older. Note 5 is not even updated until Q1, March maybe.

all of performance and security updates are late so that Samsung/AT&T can test their bloatwares. well performance/security/features are not your priority since you got that 4GB of RAM that can blast through any security holes. you would need external storage since your bloatware is ever increasing in every update from AT&T and Samsung.

Not a particularly strong argument since Apple's major software releases are notorious for slowing down older devices. iPhone 6 on iOS 9, iPhone 4 on iOS 7, iPhone 4S on anything beyond iOS 7, iPad mini on anything beyond iOS 7... you get the picture. The software on my Note 4 actually made it run better and I expect the same on my edge+. It doesn't make a ton of sense to put out the update before the new version of TouchWiz drops with the S7 anyway. Samsung could use improvement in this department no doubt but it does not adversely affect my experience as does, say, updating my iPhone 4 to iOS 7 (luckily I traded it in) or the other examples I gave. It is no rumor that the iPhone 6 generally got slower after iOS 9.

 

[Michael Goff]

Adoptable storage is excluded from the new crop of Galaxy S7 devices
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You mean you wouldn't get an S7 because you prefer inferior battery life? The S7 has a larger battery than the 6 Plus.
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Not a particularly strong argument since Apple's major software releases are notorious for slowing down older devices. iPhone 6 on iOS 9, iPhone 4 on iOS 7, iPhone 4S on anything beyond iOS 7, iPad mini on anything beyond iOS 7... you get the picture. The software on my Note 4 actually made it run better and I expect the same on my edge+. It doesn't make a ton of sense to put out the update before the new version of TouchWiz drops with the S7 anyway. Samsung could use improvement in this department no doubt but it does not adversely affect my experience as does, say, updating my iPhone 4 to iOS 7 (luckily I traded it in) or the other examples I gave. It is no rumor that the iPhone 6 generally got slower after iOS 9.

I'd wait for actual numbers. The S6 had a bigger battery than the iPhone and the battery life was a joke.

 

[John Mcgregor]

I will be very specific here. NO!
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I'd wait for actual numbers. The S6 had a bigger battery than the iPhone and the battery life was a joke.

Worse than a joke. I had to disable all the google crap like stand and games etc., plus all the retarded apps that came with it like dropbox, instagram, office etc., Then it was more or less ok, but if you don't know this and just keep using it like you found it's horrible. Oh and i disabed s voice that one was draining battery as a ************.
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Adoptable storage is excluded from the new crop of Galaxy S7 devices
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You mean you wouldn't get an S7 because you prefer inferior battery life? The S7 has a larger battery than the 6 Plus.
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Not a particularly strong argument since Apple's major software releases are notorious for slowing down older devices. iPhone 6 on iOS 9, iPhone 4 on iOS 7, iPhone 4S on anything beyond iOS 7, iPad mini on anything beyond iOS 7... you get the picture. The software on my Note 4 actually made it run better and I expect the same on my edge+. It doesn't make a ton of sense to put out the update before the new version of TouchWiz drops with the S7 anyway. Samsung could use improvement in this department no doubt but it does not adversely affect my experience as does, say, updating my iPhone 4 to iOS 7 (luckily I traded it in) or the other examples I gave. It is no rumor that the iPhone 6 generally got slower after iOS 9.

The fact that iPhone 4 is still getting that update is what should be pointed out here. How many major OS updates Galaxy S6 had? Oh wait as of now 0, only in some countries and on some carriers the rollout began which by no means can be called global. Mine is still on lollipop.

find a phone with same specs like 4S and how do you think touchwiz android will run on it? get real. Duh.

 

[Shanghaichica]

They are nice phones. I have contemplated picking one up as a secondary phone. However I've no plans to stop using my iPhone as my daily driver. I'd only consider moving to android if it offered the following:

1) Timely updates
2) An ecosystem equal or better to Apple's
3) After sales support as good or better than Apple
4) Better security features
5) Battery life equal to or better than than the iPhone 6S plus
6) Less buggy firmware
7) At least 128GB internal storage which does not involve using a micro SD card.

 

[Savor]

Yup, I like the S7 edge. Haven't decided between silver platinum or gold platinum. I already have a gold LG G3 Beat (aka Vigor). While slow in UI, it is close to the perfect size and design for me while still maintaining a removable battery. IMHO, it looks better than the G5 for me. So I might side with a silver option of the S7 edge because I prefer having a different color for each of my devices.

But I agree with Retired Cat about the glass back concerns. It took Sony nearly three years to go away from the glass rear. I really don't mind a plastic rear like matte or faux leather. But other than that and the nonremovable battery, it doesn't seem to have too many weaknesses. And I can tolerate TouchWiz enough.

 

[Truefan31]

They are nice phones. I have contemplated picking one up as a secondary phone. However I've no plans to stop using my iPhone as my daily driver. I'd only consider moving to android if it offered the following:

1) Timely updates
2) An ecosystem equal or better to Apple's
3) After sales support as good or better than Apple
4) Better security features
5) Battery life equal to or better than than the iPhone 6S plus
6) Less buggy firmware
7) At least 128GB internal storage which does not involve using a micro SD card.

You'll be waiting a while then with that list. It's something about security when Apple is fighting the us government. Should be commended.

 

[hallux]

That's a marshmallow option that samsung chose not to enable. It's a wise decision in my opinion. Too many problems from people used to removing them at will.

And that right there is the problem with Samsung. They go too deep into the OS to change things. Sure, they might have removed the option because they could see what you describe being a problem, and it may be, but some of the other things they (or other OEMs that skin the OS) change make for an entirely different experience. For this reason alone, I try to emphasize to people swearing off Android because of a Samsung experience that a Samsung device is SAMSUNG'S take on Android, there are other (arguably better) options out there that will be entirely different.

Example - on an Android-related forum someone asked about removing a persistent notification (DnD indicator) from the notification tray. On a stock Android OS (Nexus) it's easy, enable the System UI tuner then select to not show that notification/indicator. The poster had an LG, LG chose to not enable the UI tuner on their version of Marshmallow. I'm sure Samsung will probably make a similar decision, as well as their customary changes to the settings menus to move things around and make it challenging for anyone that doesn't have a Samsung to properly guide an owner to a setting they may need help with.

I didn't read the entire thread. I have no interest in any Samsung phones, I have a Samsung tablet and while the hardware is fantastic, their take on Android is horrible. The OS lags, some options aren't available that stock Android has, updates are few and far between (and now ended on a device just hitting the 2-year-old mark). My next tablet will be Google-branded, either the Pixel-C or whatever they announce at I/O this year. My tax refund is looking for something to be spent on.

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

And that right there is the problem with Samsung. They go too deep into the OS to change things. Sure, they might have removed the option because they could see what you describe being a problem, and it may be, but some of the other things they (or other OEMs that skin the OS) change make for an entirely different experience. For this reason alone, I try to emphasize to people swearing off Android because of a Samsung experience that a Samsung device is SAMSUNG'S take on Android, there are other (arguably better) options out there that will be entirely different.

Example - on an Android-related forum someone asked about removing a persistent notification (DnD indicator) from the notification tray. On a stock Android OS (Nexus) it's easy, enable the System UI tuner then select to not show that notification/indicator. The poster had an LG, LG chose to not enable the UI tuner on their version of Marshmallow. I'm sure Samsung will probably make a similar decision, as well as their customary changes to the settings menus to move things around and make it challenging for anyone that doesn't have a Samsung to properly guide an owner to a setting they may need help with.

I didn't read the entire thread. I have no interest in any Samsung phones, I have a Samsung tablet and while the hardware is fantastic, their take on Android is horrible. The OS lags, some options aren't available that stock Android has, updates are few and far between (and now ended on a device just hitting the 2-year-old mark). My next tablet will be Google-branded, either the Pixel-C or whatever they announce at I/O this year. My tax refund is looking for something to be spent on.

On the flip side, I'm glad I'm not at the mercy of just one company. I like TW and it's been 99% stable and smooth for me since the Note 4. Too many features and small differences that I would hate to lose going to pure Android.


Just some of the reason's I like Samsung's Touchwiz over Pure Android .......


Samsung's Touchwiz (present day)......

Split screen and pop out window multitasking is top notch
Smart Stay is a godsend, especially when reading an ebook or documents
Camera software over pure Android's software any day
You can edit quick toggles in notification drop down
Notification drop down is smoother
Private Mode
Better usage detail (battery, data, etc)
Best default keyboard I've used. I love having the numbers on top vs toggling back n forth
Samsung default apps. Their Memo, Voice Recorder, and File Manager apps are pretty good
Galaxy Store. Some good apps. I installed and use S-Note, even though I'm not using a Galaxy Note
Samsung Pay, the best one out, since you can use it anywhere


Pure Android M ......

Camera software sucks and lack robust options
You can't edit quick toggles in notification drop down
I still hate that you have to double slide down to get to quick toggles and settings
No option to set lock screen wallpaper separate from home screen
No folders in App Drawer
No clear all button in recents.
Can't uninstall the Google search bar (waste of real estate)
No system split screen or pop-up multitasking
Many settings are too many clicks away or just plain hidden.
Can't delete blank home screens


There's is more that I can't think of at the moment. Pure Android is just too barebones for my taste, and I would require a 3rd party launcher to customize the way that I want. I rather TouchWiz, which is basically ready made to be customized how I want it.

 

[epicrayban]

I have to agree with LIVEFRMNYC.

I find little value in the actual software of stock Android. In day to day use, TouchWiz proves much more efficient and effective at doing the daily things I want to do with my smartphone. Swipe to automatically start a call is a great one, too. LIVERFRMNYC's list covers most of the main advantages. There are certainly more (theming is a big one).

And his list of issues with Android M is spot on.

In my opinion, the only one true advantage of stock Android on a Nexus device is the update speed. That, however, isn't enough for me to forfeit all the advantages TouchWiz offers on a daily-use basis. We should always call out late updates or broken promises by OEMs and carriers, but ultimately, it's not a dealbreaker. Google updates their core apps on a regular basis. The current iteration of Android on any given recent flagship is more than stable, fast, and feature-rich (often more so than stock Android). Security updates are perhaps the most important thing, but there is very little the phone itself will do to get itself into trouble. It requires human approval for viruses, malware, etc. to get installed and to wreak havoc. If you're a user that regularly lets that happen and need monthly security updates to prevent that, then by all means, Nexus or the Apple iPhone is the way to go. But for those who are aware of what's happening with a device they use on a daily basis, security updates are not a necessity. Your phone already is secured.

Again, we should always continue to urge and demand faster updates, but at this point in time, for me and my usage, it's not a dealbreaker. Not when my daily experience with TouchWiz is so much better than with stock.

It's also important to understand the nature of updates on Android's end. It would take a monumental shift in the phone and carrier industry to change it. The best we can hope for is that OEMs and carriers offer reasonable update schedules and keep to them. Blindly comparing them to Apple's way of updating is useless and only serves to show one doesn't understand either side of the coin.

Until the industry changes, you take the good with the bad. The goods, in my opinion, outweigh the bad.

 

[hallux]

Stripping out the ones I'm not replying to...

Pure Android M ......

You can't edit quick toggles in notification drop down

Actually, you can. Using System UI Tuner you can add/remove items from the settings section of the notification shade (2-finger pull-down or pull down again once you pull down the notification shade). I can add/remove available toggles. As you have a Samsung, I'll excuse the lack of knowledge on that as Samsung likely disabled this feature as LG has done.

I still hate that you have to double slide down to get to quick toggles and settings

That's your opinion, I'd rather have the space so I don't have to scroll to see notifications as I use that more often than quick access to settings.

No option to set lock screen wallpaper separate from home screen

Another opinion. I never understood the push by people that this is such a big deal, I'm fine with the same wallpaper on both as it's a photo I took that I'm proud of.

No clear all button in recents.

I let Android manage memory, haven't seen an issue with that so I never saw a need to have this on my Nexus.

Can't uninstall the Google search bar (waste of real estate)

I like the quick access to search. Another point of opinion.

No system split screen or pop-up multitasking

On a phone, not a huge deal for me as even a 5.7" screen is a bit small for split-screen. I've used it maybe 5-6 times in almost 2 years on my tablet, and a couple of those were just to see how it worked.

Many settings are too many clicks away or just plain hidden.

I have a harder time finding setting on my TW-skinned tablet than I do on my Nexus phone.

Can't delete blank home screens

I have no blank home screens on my Nexus 6P. If one gets created when I move an icon all the way to the right, it disappears when I empty it.

Might I ask, what is your Android Security Patch level? Mine is Feb. 1, 2016. Has Samsung moved past November yet?

 

[gotluck]

I don't have much of a problem with touchwiz. The level and term of support their devices get is where I draw the line and say no

These devices are ridiculously powerful and should be very relevant for like four years. Midrange phones in two years won't be as good, with respect to hardware, but the midrange phones will be more relevant due to software support.

 

[billy the fish]

I will be very specific here. NO!
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Worse than a joke. I had to disable all the google crap like stand and games etc., plus all the retarded apps that came with it like dropbox, instagram, office etc., Then it was more or less ok, but if you don't know this and just keep using it like you found it's horrible. Oh and i disabed s voice that one was draining battery as a **********er.
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The fact that iPhone 4 is still getting that update is what should be pointed out here. How many major OS updates Galaxy S6 had? Oh wait as of now 0, only in some countries and on some carriers the rollout began which by no means can be called global. Mine is still on lollipop.

find a phone with same specs like 4S and how do you think touchwiz android will run on it? get real. Duh.

Someone who buys every galaxy phone but slagging samsung Off left right and centre. . Really? You my friend are full of BS!!!

 

[IFRIT]

On the flip side, I'm glad I'm not at the mercy of just one company. I like TW and it's been 99% stable and smooth for me since the Note 4. Too many features and small differences that I would hate to lose going to pure Android.


Just some of the reason's I like Samsung's Touchwiz over Pure Android .......


Samsung's Touchwiz (present day)......

Split screen and pop out window multitasking is top notch
Smart Stay is a godsend, especially when reading an ebook or documents
Camera software over pure Android's software any day
You can edit quick toggles in notification drop down
Notification drop down is smoother
Private Mode
Better usage detail (battery, data, etc)
Best default keyboard I've used. I love having the numbers on top vs toggling back n forth
Samsung default apps. Their Memo, Voice Recorder, and File Manager apps are pretty good
Galaxy Store. Some good apps. I installed and use S-Note, even though I'm not using a Galaxy Note
Samsung Pay, the best one out, since you can use it anywhere


Pure Android M ......

Camera software sucks and lack robust options
You can't edit quick toggles in notification drop down
I still hate that you have to double slide down to get to quick toggles and settings
No option to set lock screen wallpaper separate from home screen
No folders in App Drawer
No clear all button in recents.
Can't uninstall the Google search bar (waste of real estate)
No system split screen or pop-up multitasking
Many settings are too many clicks away or just plain hidden.
Can't delete blank home screens


There's is more that I can't think of at the moment. Pure Android is just too barebones for my taste, and I would require a 3rd party launcher to customize the way that I want. I rather TouchWiz, which is basically ready made to be customized how I want it.

You can 2 finger swipe down to bring the quick toggles down.

 

[mi7chy]

The fact that iPhone 4 is still getting that update is what should be pointed out here. How many major OS updates Galaxy S6 had? Oh wait as of now 0, only in some countries and on some carriers the rollout began which by no means can be called global. Mine is still on lollipop.

find a phone with same specs like 4S and how do you think touchwiz android will run on it? get real. Duh.

Difference is iOS updates are required to be able to run apps whereas it's optional on Android. For example, I couldn't run Hangouts on iOS 7.0.4 so had to upgrade to 9.2.1 but it rendered my iPhone 4S useless and there's no way to go back. My Note II from the same era running Kit Kat 4.4 can run the latest Hangouts, has 2GB DRAM that iPhone 6S and 6S Plus got in 2015, has better foreground and background multitasking/PiP in 2012 than iOS 9 in 2016, can navigate the OS with pen in place of finger compared to iOS 9 that's still trying to figure it out, etc. iOS requires more frequent updates since it's about 4 years behind.

 

[GadgetSN]

One thing I have noticed with my S6 edge plus is that the phone gets crippled and stutters immensely on web pages that have pop up adverts i.e pretty much all tech websites. Its getting very annoying yet never happens on my non Samsung android products.