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John Mcgregor

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the main point is if knox is tripped there is no turning back, it is a one way hardware fuse. There is no such thing on iOS

At this point you know that your iPhone is completely secure if no one knows your lock code. No one can tamper with your iPhone. FBI is crying for example. How sure can you be if while visiting China when you left you samsung in a hotel it wasn't tempered with? Just because knox is not triggered you will be 100% sure?
 

gotluck

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At this point you know that your iPhone is completely secure if no one knows your lock code. No one can tamper with your iPhone. FBI is crying for example. How sure can you be if while visiting China when you left you samsung in a hotel it wasn't tempered with? Just because knox is not triggered you will be 100% sure?

since you can root without tripping obviously it is not a failsafe solution. I was just saying there is not an equivalent process on iOS (which is a huge advantage IMO that steers me away from samsung).

and I bet zerodium or some other hacker group can get into the FBI phone. The FBI is just using this case as a launchpad to get 'easy' access to all iphones without having to hack them
 
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LIVEFRMNYC

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At this point you know that your iPhone is completely secure if no one knows your lock code. No one can tamper with your iPhone. FBI is crying for example. How sure can you be if while visiting China when you left you samsung in a hotel it wasn't tempered with? Just because knox is not triggered you will be 100% sure?

You realize the iPhone is just encrypted by default and has a limit of passcode tries. That's basically it. Same exact thing that the S7/ S7 edge does. Same exact thing any Android user of other devices can enable with ease. Doesn't matter whether a phone is rooted/jailbroken or not. No passcode, No decryption.

Now what makes the iPhone so special again? Oh Yea, it's an iPhone.
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mi7chy

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John McGregor doesn't have a clue about what he's talking about.

Difference is Android with bootloader lock has been unrootable/unjailbreakable for years whereas virtually every version of iOS is jailbreakable . iOS also suffered from the biggest and most embarrassing security breach by revealing private pictures of owners' orifices to the world.
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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Perhaps he means the actual App store itself.

If so, I agree. It's a pain navigating through the App Store. Even using the App Store for purchases is a hassle. Too many security features that force you to sometimes use fingerprint scan but other times your Apple ID password. And the worse thing? You can't download large files unless it's over WiFi (this is the world's most advanced mobile OS? What if I need or even just want a large app right away and am not near WiFi?).

Side Note: This is true of software updates, too. Can't update without WiFi. Advanced?

The App store is a perfect instance of where I wish Apple would treat its users like adults. Let me be responsible for my own device and finances.

The Play Store is easier to navigate and use.
I look forward to having a proper go with it. Sadly I know very few people with Android phones apart from a couple of people at work so i'll have to try and borrow one.

Has the Podcast aspect improved on the Playstore? It was the one thing that lacked back in 2012 and the App Store is rich with choice. I download a lot of Podcasts to listen to while at work.
 

I7guy

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John McGregor doesn't have a clue about what he's talking about.

Difference is Android with bootloader lock has been unrootable/unjailbreakable for years whereas virtually every version of iOS is jailbreakable . iOS also suffered from the biggest and most embarrassing security breach by revealing private pictures of owners' orifices to the world.
As opposed to heart bleed?
 

mrex

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Having browsed it I don't find it quite as pleasant to navigate but it contains much of the same thing.

Why is the App Store light years behind the Playstore? Have I missed something glaringly obvious?

lots of things that makes it to be horrible, but the the first one: finding the app you are looking for is hopeless without knowing the right link - i usually just use google to find the specific app from appstore and follow that link...
 
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The-Real-Deal82

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lots of things that makes it to be horrible, but the the first one: finding the app you are looking for is hopeless without knowing the right link - i usually just use google to find the specific app from appstore and follow that link...
I can't think of a time where I haven't been able to find the app I want by searching within the App Store. I guess this a subjective and down to personal experience.

I haven't used the Playstore as extensively of late so i'll leave it there. I want to avoid getting railroaded into a 'one is the best and the other is crap' style debate that's famous on here.
 
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melendezest

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Let me caveat this post by saying that I'm not partial to any specific operating system, platform, manufacturer. I love technology and competition among the various platforms. I currently have the iPhone 6s Plus paired with my Apple Watch Sport and love both of them immensely. The new Samsung Galaxy devices were introduced at MWC yesterday and I watched the presentation and was pretty impressed with what Samsung did to its latest flagships. I'm curious as to what my fellow iPhone users think, or have an opinion of these devices.

There's no way around it: you have to take the plunge and try it for a cycle.

There is nothing we can say here to change your mind, particularly if you like iOS and iPhone in their current state.

The issue is whether or not you want to do more or different things with your device than Apple offers (or allows).

I went Android (Galaxy S4, Note3, Note5) and now I cannot go back, not because I love Android, but because Apple does not offer an equivalent device.
 
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