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TommyA6

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LOL, stop implying people are too dumb to know what stuttering looks like or what it even is. Is that your only defense to people who aren't nitpicky to insane levels?

Your constant saying the same thing over and over doesn't fix the issue either. All you're doing is insulting who may not have the same level of stutter on their own devices.

I've tested my recent calls and Twitter app on my 6 with 9.1 beta 3 and it's not a laggy stuttery mess you make it out to be. Not even close.

Your own personal bad experience with iOS 9 doesn't make iOS 9 terrible for every single person out there. I'm not sure why that has to be explained over and over.

It's really funny that the biggest thing people are crying about are these "micro stutters". Seems to me that Apple nailed iOS 9 if the biggest talked about complaint is some crazy, super nitpick, almost meaningless thing and not the OS itself.
People have different expectations. I expect near perfect smoothness from Apple because we had just that on iOS 6.
iOS 9 performs fine, but it ain't perfectly smooth as you would expect from Apple. (Definitely not on par with iOS 6). I'd give it 8/10.
Every same generation iPhone performs the same. You do not have a special iPhone. Nor do I. iOS is too closed down for users to mess the smoothness of their phone somehow.
 
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sunking101

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No noticeable stutter here. My 6+ stuttered for England so I'm actually enjoying the lack of stutter...
 

SoYoung

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How is it unrealistic when it was already done in the previous version?
Yes it happened. I remember back in 2012 my iPhone 3GS was not so good with iOS 6.

For iOS 9 on my 6+, I don't see any lag on the phone call history or youtube app. Don't know for twitter, but apps for the ones I use is on par with iOS 8 for me.
 

sanke1

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This was the first thing I noticed in WhatsApp. The recent chats list stutters on 5S. It is just TERRIBLE on 5c.

Scrolling literally happens at 10-20 fps.

Smooth scrolling code is borked.

Like weather app, we will have to wait till next major revision (iOS 10) for this to be fixed. By then, some other working thing would be broken. Then we will complain and wait for iOS 11.
 

marillion747

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There was definitely stutter on my 6s plus in the Twitter app, more so than my 6 plus on 8.4 as the original poster says. The music & podcast app both stutter too while scrolling.

The only app Apple finally sorted out was the weather app that was shockingly bad with lag in iOS 8.

I've even returned my 6s plus and stuck with my 6 plus jail broken 8.4, partly because I miss all the great tweaks and because of all the stutters.
 
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Merkie

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Micro stutters? Lol, you got to be kidding. What's next? Nano Stutters? OMG nano stutters everywhere!!!

Some people will never be happy and just move on to a new level of whiney with every change or update.
What are you talking about? You don't understand anything. The stutters aren't the problem, the problem is that in iOS 8 there weren't any stutters. In other words, regression. iOS 9 is a lot more laggy than iOS 8. Try drawing up the control center on a 5S for example, it's a 15fps slideshow (used to be perfectly smooth). iOS 9 exhibits a lot of these weird stutters everywhere. It definitely has a negative impact on the user experience.

Apparently, there are two kinds of people. People who get less critical the more money they spend (denial?), and people who get more critical the more money they spend on a phone.

Is it too much too ask for a major OS update that actually makes the OS better/faster/smother, instead of worse/slower/laggier? Remember: the iPhone is the most expensive phone in the world. So yeah, I hate microstutters. Especially if they weren't there before.
 
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raab

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Also get those micro stutters on a 6S+, 9.0.2

It's not all the time, happens randomly
 

Radon87000

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LOL, stop implying people are too dumb to know what stuttering looks like or what it even is. Is that your only defense to people who aren't nitpicky to insane levels?

Your constant saying the same thing over and over doesn't fix the issue either. All you're doing is insulting who may not have the same level of stutter on their own devices.

I've tested my recent calls and Twitter app on my 6 with 9.1 beta 3 and it's not a laggy stuttery mess you make it out to be. Not even close.

Your own personal bad experience with iOS 9 doesn't make iOS 9 terrible for every single person out there. I'm not sure why that has to be explained over and over.

It's really funny that the biggest thing people are crying about are these "micro stutters". Seems to me that Apple nailed iOS 9 if the biggest talked about complaint is some crazy, super nitpick, almost meaningless thing and not the OS itself.
Are you saying that the recent calls menu is just as smooth as when it was on 8.4.1?Because I clearly compared the two on clean installs and it was buttery smooth on 8.4.1 and on 9 there is constant stuttering when scrolling down kinda like the scrolling on Chrome in Android.

I was getting insane lag in the switcher although 9.0.2 fixed most of it
 

CupertinoSlave

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It's also a placebo that people are thinking that with every x.0 release everything is stuttering and lagging.
Just got an email back from the tweet bot Dev who literally told me it a an iOS 9 issue and they couldn't do anything until iOS 9 fixes it's UIcollectionview code. Is that placebo too?
 
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ZEEN0j

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Sep 29, 2014
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I notice the stutter. And see it on all my devices 6 and air 2. All my girlfriends devices. And all my friends devices. I am the only one complaining. They either don't see it or don't care. But the reality is its there on all devices I've tested. And the odd phone I've picked up and tried in the Apple Store. But I guess it's just amazing coincidence.

People and me will probably complain and say 9 was better then 10. And the reason is not that 9 is good. But the later version is actually worse. And performance has been going downhill since iOS 6. They actually fixed the stutter with spotlight with iOS 8 that stuttered on iOS 7. But now it stutters again.
 
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CupertinoSlave

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I notice the stutter. And see it on all my devices 6 and air 2. All my girlfriends devices. And all my friends devices. I am the only one complaining. They either don't see it or don't care. But the reality is its there on all devices I've tested. And the odd phone I've picked up and tried in the Apple Store. But I guess it's just amazing coincidence.

People and me will probably complain and say 9 was better then 10. And the reason is not that 9 is good. But the later version is actually worse. And performance has been going downhill since iOS 6. They actually fixed the stutter with spotlight with iOS 8 that stuttered on iOS 7. But now it stutters again.
people will only see it clearly when you put iOS 8 scrolling next to iOS 9. Then you will see a massive difference
 
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I7guy

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What are you talking about? You don't understand anything. The stutters aren't the problem, the problem is that in iOS 8 there weren't any stutters. In other words, regression. iOS 9 is a lot more laggy than iOS 8. Try drawing up the control center on a 5S for example, it's a 15fps slideshow (used to be perfectly smooth). iOS 9 exhibits a lot of these weird stutters everywhere. It definitely has a negative impact on the user experience.

Apparently, there are two kinds of people. People who get less critical the more money they spend (denial?), and people who get more critical the more money they spend on a phone.

Is it too much too ask for a major OS update that actually makes the OS better/faster/smother, instead of worse/slower/laggier? Remember: the iPhone is the most expensive phone in the world. So yeah, I hate microstutters. Especially if they weren't there before.
That's the issue with blanket statements. iOS 8.4.1 did have non-critical stutter issues. iOS 9 smoothed out a lot of the issues and feels better to use, but still not 100%. Your going to go round and round on this because everybody's experience is different.
 

Merkie

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That's the issue with blanket statements. iOS 8.4.1 did have non-critical stutter issues. iOS 9 smoothed out a lot of the issues and feels better to use, but still not 100%. Your going to go round and round on this because everybody's experience is different.
I'm not following you. iOS 9 is less smooth for everyone. I can't recall anyone here posting an experience in which iOS 9 was smoother than iOS 8.

Ofcourse, the experience is different for different devices. The 5 is basicly the same on iOS 9 as on iOS 8, only a bit slower (mainly due to the weird app launch delay bug). The 5S is definitely less smooth than iOS 8. In fact, the 5 is more smooth than the 5S on iOS 9 (I have both, so I can compare them side-by-side).
 

CupertinoSlave

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That's the issue with blanket statements. iOS 8.4.1 did have non-critical stutter issues. iOS 9 smoothed out a lot of the issues and feels better to use, but still not 100%. Your going to go round and round on this because everybody's experience is different.
iOS 8.4.1 didn't have a scrolling issue, that is the whole issue.
 

I7guy

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I'm not following you. iOS 9 is less smooth for everyone. I can't recall anyone here posting an experience in which iOS 9 was smoother than iOS 8.

Ofcourse, the experience is different for different devices. The 5 is basicly the same on iOS 9 as on iOS 8, only a bit slower (mainly due to the weird app launch delay bug). The 5S is definitely less smooth than iOS 8. In fact, the 5 is more smooth than the 5S on iOS 9 (I have both, so I can compare them side-by-side).
I don't have the 5 so I can't compare, I have the 5s and iPad 2. As we have 3 5s and 2 iPad 2 I had ample opportunity for testing. iOS 9 flowed better , was smoother felt better.

And you need to look just a little bit to find people who like iOS 9 and ignore some of the snarky posts about "placebo " effects.
 
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CupertinoSlave

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I don't have the 5 so I can't compare, I have the 5s and iPad 2. As we have 3 5s and 2 iPad 2 I had ample opportunity for testing. iOS 9 flowed better , was smoother felt better.

And you need to look just a little bit to find people who like iOS 9 and ignore some of the snarky posts about "placebo " effects.
You can't consider it a placebo when even developers acknowledge it. That is just flat out denial.
 

I7guy

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Nov 30, 2013
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You can't consider it a placebo when even developers acknowledge it. That is just flat out denial.
So if that is your answer, my answer is that some are so anal retentive as to find issues that don't exist.

I believe Apple has some internal coding issues but they were there on 8.4.1 and manifest themselves less in 9.0.2.
 
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tobiasrx

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Oct 5, 2015
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I definately am not happy with all the stutter and low fps animations.
However. On my brand new Iphone 6Plus last year it was far from perfect aswell and it wasnt perfect on 8.4 either.
As an example the Control center, notification center and Quick reply on the lockscreen where far from smooth. They are smooth now though on iOS9.

Sadly i find Android to be smoother nowadays than IOS and that saddens my Appleheart.
 
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