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Calidude

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Jun 22, 2010
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The screen is actually pure garbage.

Have you ever bothered trying to take your screen and compare it to an iPhone 4S or HTC One X?

That's right, your screen can't display white and is half as bright. It's also tinted.

Thank god the new Lumias have dropped the trash that is Super AMOLED.
Actually, Super AMOLED is fine if you actually calibrate it. My Galaxy Nexus has pretty white whites as you can see on this image.

Luckily, my Android phone is open enough to allow me to tweak the custom settings and set the gamma, color, contrast, and CAB values to finetune the picture to my liking.

So yeah, it's not garbage. It just needs to be calibrated, like any TV you buy from the store. Not a big issue at all, and the fine-grained control will be of benefit to people who want accuracy.
 

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Wrathwitch

macrumors 65816
Dec 4, 2009
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Actually, Super AMOLED is fine if you actually calibrate it. My Galaxy Nexus has pretty white whites as you can see on this image.

Luckily, my Android phone is open enough to allow me to tweak the custom settings and set the gamma, color, contrast, and CAB values to finetune the picture to my liking.

So yeah, it's not garbage. It just needs to be calibrated, like any TV you buy from the store. Not a big issue at all, and the fine-grained control will be of benefit to people who want accuracy.

OK I'll nibble! How do you calibrate the phone screen?
 

maflynn

macrumors Haswell
May 3, 2009
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That the forthcoming JB update doesn't look that good and that the iPhone may be better than we are anticipating?

:confused:

I'd say that if you're happy with the S3 why worry about what Apple will do. Enjoy your phone and not worry what Apple may or may not do. You'll drive yourself crazy worrying about it, and going back and force between platforms can get expensive.
 

nickchallis92

macrumors 6502a
Mar 4, 2012
906
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London
I've got to say, since owning the Galaxy S1 with its superamoled display, I can't go back. Everything seems like an old-age pile of poop.

I've seen the HTC one X and yes the screen is absolutely beautiful but it doesn't have that brilliant quality of the blacks melting into the bezel and not being able to tell if the screen is off, or is just displaying black.
 

MonkeySee....

macrumors 68040
Sep 24, 2010
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Once the kool-aid starts flowing, it'll be hard for many not to drink.

Heck, even I'm excited about the keynote. But I very much expect the keynote to confirm that I'm done with the iPhone. The boat has almost sailed, and the keynote will probably be the last wind.

What really drives it home for me is that whatever they unveil next week will likely be the design and size for the next two years. That commitment boggles me.

Isn't it better to refine a design than to completely change it all the time?

"It's very easy to be different, but very difficult to be better." - Johnny Ive

You most likely wont agree but its that philosophy keeping me one the iPhone. IMHO. :)
 

nickchallis92

macrumors 6502a
Mar 4, 2012
906
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London
What could the iphone 5 possibly bring to the table that would make it better than the SGS3 though?

The SGS3 does everything, and everything it does, it does well

-Excellent camera
-Best mobile OS out there
-ample memory
-HD screen
-NFC payments
-delightfully smooth
-ridiculously strong CPU and GPU
-outrageously good sound quality

This iphone 5 hype baffles me:confused::confused:
 

onthecouchagain

macrumors 604
Mar 29, 2011
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Isn't it better to refine a design than to completely change it all the time?

"It's very easy to be different, but very difficult to be better." - Johnny Ive

You most likely wont agree but its that philosophy keeping me one the iPhone. IMHO. :)


You can use buzzwords like "refine" if you want to to describe the lack of a truly larger screen or design changes (I mean, there is virtually nothing new design wise). The issue for me is that Apple's fear of fragmentation is really holding them back from major hardware improvements (spec wise and screen size wise) and software improvements; to try to make 3 year old devices run the same software holds it back (and the old devices don't even get some of the biggest and most important features of the latest OS. It's almost pointless).

Things that work better is my philosophy too. That's why I've switched to Android (specifically stock Android on the Nexus line). Better mail, better browser, infinitely better keyboard, better voice dictation, better experience overall.
 
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ixodes

macrumors 601
Jan 11, 2012
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That the forthcoming JB update doesn't look that good and that the iPhone may be better than we are anticipating?

:confused:
Oh please, you've got to be kidding.

I enjoy my iPhone 4S, it's an excellent smartphone. Yet I really enjoy my Galaxy S3 even more.

Not all of us are strapped in to the: "I must upgrade to the latest OS or die" mindset.

Fresh & new I'm busy enjoying the excellence of the OS that came on my SGS 3, and the spacious highly useful display.

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Things that work better is my philosophy too. That's why I've switched to Android (specifically stock Android on the Nexus line). Better mail, better browser, infinitely better keyboard, better voice dictation, better experience overall.
Very well said!
 

Calidude

macrumors 68000
Jun 22, 2010
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OK I'll nibble! How do you calibrate the phone screen?
You have to unlock the bootloader and either install a custom rom that allows you to tinker with the color settings or install a custom kernel alone that can do that. It's a fairly simple process but most people will be aghast at things like rooting.
 

Wrathwitch

macrumors 65816
Dec 4, 2009
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You have to unlock the bootloader and either install a custom rom that allows you to tinker with the color settings or install a custom kernel alone that can do that. It's a fairly simple process but most people will be aghast at things like rooting.

poop...

Not ready to root yet. Maybe in the next few months perhaps.

Thanks tho!
 

Mac.World

macrumors 68000
Jan 9, 2011
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In front of uranus
You have to unlock the bootloader and either install a custom rom that allows you to tinker with the color settings or install a custom kernel alone that can do that. It's a fairly simple process but most people will be aghast at things like rooting.

I haven't found a rom yet that I like or trust. Although someone above said the Sept 6th cm10 nightly is stable and provides g wallet support. I may look into this further.
 

Calidude

macrumors 68000
Jun 22, 2010
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I haven't found a rom yet that I like or trust. Although someone above said the Sept 6th cm10 nightly is stable and provides g wallet support. I may look into this further.
People will always say that about the latest Nightlies and then people will install them and get mad that something doesn't work. Tread lightly and keep expectations low.
 

MonkeySee....

macrumors 68040
Sep 24, 2010
3,858
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UK
You can use buzzwords like "refine" if you want to to describe the lack of a truly larger screen or design changes (I mean, there is virtually nothing new design wise). The issue for me is that Apple's fear of fragmentation is really holding them back from major hardware improvements (spec wise and screen size wise) and software improvements; to try to make 3 year old devices run the same software holds it back (and the old devices don't even get some of the biggest and most important features of the latest OS. It's almost pointless).

Things that work better is my philosophy too. That's why I've switched to Android (specifically stock Android on the Nexus line). Better mail, better browser, infinitely better keyboard, better voice dictation, better experience overall.

Buzzword? :confused:

"Virtually nothing new" = refinements? Its not hard to understand.

If you don't like the simplicity of iOS then yes, its not for you. Nothing is holding the phone back and the 5 WILL be an improvement on the 4S so I don't see the issue.
 

SprSynJn

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Sep 15, 2011
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Japan
Are you serious???

Jelly Bean is like ten times better than iOS 6. Even ICS is better than iOS 6. Google Now is way better than Siri, and the new Google voice search is awesome.

The SGS3 will still be much better than the new iPhone: bigger screen, NFC, quad core, led notification light, capacitive buttons, 2100 battery compared to the 1450 of the new iPhone, micro SD for further memory expansion whenever you want, smart stay feature, camera app with more options, more customization, etc.

The iPhone 5 is the least phone that would worry anyone right now, be it Android or WP8.

Next week you will see lots of Apple fans disappointed. Get real.

Android is great, I know. But this post made me laugh a bit. I was going to make arguments against every item you mentioned, but I doubt they would get through. iPhone 5 is the exact phone you should be worried about, since a battle is what you seem to want. Like it or not, it will give Android a run for its money. You might see some fans disappointed, but you will also probably see many Android fans jealous. Why? Cause it will most likely be a great phone. Just like the S3 is.

Again, both OS are great, but your comments were ridiculous.
 

Oppressed

macrumors 65816
Aug 15, 2010
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That's just baseless optimism. A lot of people are so disappointed with iPhone this year that they're making up stuff and posting threads about how it MIGHT be better and that Apple is just putting up a smokescreen for the REAL iPhone and the REAL iOS6 features. :rolleyes:

It's hilarious really.

What is hilarious is your first sentence claiming someone to spout off "baseless optimism" and then the next saying that "a lot of people are disappointed with the iPhone." When in fact this is baseless in itself. You do not speak for the masses.

People are so quick to assume everyone must think the same way they do. Or even to believe that a small tech site is a good sample size for the opinion of the market. Posters need to get over themselves.
 

TheBigKing

macrumors 65816
Jul 27, 2010
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why to worry ?? every two days sammobiles has been sorting jb leeks and has been stable i love my gs3 international
 

mzjin

macrumors 6502
Oct 28, 2011
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Are you serious???

Jelly Bean is like ten times better than iOS 6. Even ICS is better than iOS 6. Google Now is way better than Siri, and the new Google voice search is awesome.

The SGS3 will still be much better than the new iPhone: bigger screen, NFC, quad core, led notification light, capacitive buttons, 2100 battery compared to the 1450 of the new iPhone, micro SD for further memory expansion whenever you want, smart stay feature, camera app with more options, more customization, etc.

The iPhone 5 is the least phone that would worry anyone right now, be it Android or WP8.

Next week you will see lots of Apple fans disappointed. Get real.

Jelly bean is a smoother version of ICS, and even using it on the Nexus 7, it's still not as smooth as iOS.

Let's look at GS3:

Worse screen (bigger, that's great)
Craptastic build quality
NFC that is virtually useless and will be for years
Specs that are meaningless (quad core? Hah!)
LED notification light? Place your phone screen up.
Capacitive buttons. Who cares?
Battery life - guaranteed to be worse than the Iphone 5

It's already inferior to the iPhone 4S in most ways.
 

Calidude

macrumors 68000
Jun 22, 2010
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What is hilarious is your first sentence claiming someone to spout off "baseless optimism" and then the next saying that "a lot of people are disappointed with the iPhone." When in fact this is baseless in itself. You do not speak for the masses.
I don't but these polls do.

48% of Macrumors users are disappointed with iOS6

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1383671/

69% of Macrumors users disagree with Apple's screen change on the iPhone 5

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1377669/

Baseless, huh? :rolleyes:
 

Oppressed

macrumors 65816
Aug 15, 2010
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I don't but these polls do.

48% of Macrumors users are disappointed with iOS6

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1383671/

69% of Macrumors users disagree with Apple's screen change on the iPhone 5

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1377669/

Baseless, huh? :rolleyes:

If you are going to attempt to prove me wrong then at least quote everything I said.

People are so quick to assume everyone must think the same way they do. Or even to believe that a small tech site is a good sample size for the opinion of the market. Posters need to get over themselves.

Random threads on some random forum does not speak for even a fraction of the market for whom you seem to want to speak for.

Edit: I'm curious as to the last sentence of your own poll:

Anyway, yeah, iOS6 is a joke. I'm done with this nonsense for good.

And I have to ask, if you are "done with this nonsense for good" then why are you still here?
 
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Calidude

macrumors 68000
Jun 22, 2010
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Random threads on some random forum does not speak for even a fraction of the market for whom you seem to want to speak for.
That's just plain untrue. People like Macrumors users make up a sizable fraction of the market. This isn't just a random forum. Its one of the biggest on the web.

Condescend much? Don't worry, the press will be echoing the disappointment I've been discussing for months now. Then you'll get an idea of how far-reaching the discontent is among the masses.
 

Oppressed

macrumors 65816
Aug 15, 2010
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That's just plain untrue. People like Macrumors users make up a sizable fraction of the market. This isn't just a random forum. Its one of the biggest on the web.

Condescend much? Don't worry, the press will be echoing the disappointment I've been discussing for months now. Then you'll get an idea of how far-reaching the discontent is among the masses.

For being so critical of Apple you seem to be a firm advoacte of Steve Jobs' reality distortion field based on your posts.
 

Calidude

macrumors 68000
Jun 22, 2010
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For being so critical of Apple you seem to be a firm advoacte of Steve Jobs' reality distortion field based on your posts.
Based on your uninformed opinion you mean. I collected data with those threads and showed that the discontent that you claim doesn't exist as even a fraction of the market is actually there.

What do you have to offer to this debate? Nothing, that's what. Nothing but labels for the person you're debating with.
 

Oppressed

macrumors 65816
Aug 15, 2010
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Based on your uninformed opinion you mean. I collected data with those threads and showed that the discontent that you claim doesn't exist as even a fraction of the market is actually there.

What do you have to offer to this debate? Nothing, that's what. Nothing but labels for the person you're debating with.

No where did I claim that the discontent didn't exist, but the way in which you are presenting the information makes it seem bigger than it really is. What I said in the original post was that the way you speak makes it seem as though you know what the majority of people want in their cell phone. And unless I'm subscribing to the wrong blogs I've never read an article entitled "New poll on Macrumors shows sudden discontent among phone purchasers across America." Nor have I read your polls quoted in anything worthwhile regarding the customer satisfaction regarding Apple devices. Therefore your material you are going by might as well be considered "nothing".

My entire point is not to say that there are not people who do not like Apple products, but that people who claim to know a lot and speak for others is both unproductive and infuriating to others. Which you are doing.
 

Calidude

macrumors 68000
Jun 22, 2010
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No where did I claim that the discontent didn't exist, but the way in which you are presenting the information makes it seem bigger than it really is.
You said that those polls don't speak for even a fraction of the overall masses, which is pretty much the same as saying that there is no discontent, especially coupled with your earlier post that said that my personal opinion does not reflect anybody elses, to which I countered with those polls I made that prove you wrong.
What I said in the original post was that the way you speak makes it seem as though you know what the majority of people want in their cell phone.
That's your assumption. I only said there a lot of disappointment out there, but you won't even acknowledge that, even after looking at the polls I showed you.

And unless I'm subscribing to the wrong blogs I've never read an article entitled "New poll on Macrumors shows sudden discontent among phone purchasers across America."
There's no iPhone 5 to purchase. :rolleyes:

I'm saying that a lot of people are already disappointed with what has been revealed so far, and that is absolutely, factually true.

Nor have I read your polls quoted in anything worthwhile regarding the customer satisfaction regarding Apple devices. Therefore your material you are going by might as well be considered "nothing".
Again, you can't be satisfied with something you don't own. I've always been saying that people have been disappointed with the leaks and iOS6 reveal thus far.

My entire point is not to say that there are not people who do not like Apple products, but that people who claim to know a lot and speak for others is both unproductive and infuriating to others. Which you are doing.
I speak for myself and merely acknowledge that other people share the same opinion as I do. You're just having a kneejerk, uninformed, overly emotional reaction to some kind of demagoguery that isn't happening.
 
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