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sentinelsx

macrumors 68010
Feb 28, 2011
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Capacitive buttons are a great thing. Much better than physical buttons. Last much, much longer and look better.

That would be subjective. I actually liked the physical buttons on the Xperia Arc more than the capacitive buttons on other phones. Never had a case of wrong button press. Nowadays i am watching something and poof, it is gone because i pressed back button or i am staring at an annoying menu because of menu button. After a while it gets annoying.

On screen buttons are further from the bezel though and i would like it if more OEMs included on screen buttons instead of separate capacitive set.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
8,877
10,987
It's not that the phone feels creaky or poorly constructed. It's that the phone feels cheap.

Especially compared to the iPhone.

Why then? Doesn't feel cheap to me. Even the back plate doesn't feel cheap.

Only thing I can think of is people are equating light weight and thin with cheap.
 

Mac.World

macrumors 68000
Jan 9, 2011
1,819
1
In front of uranus
That would be subjective. I actually liked the physical buttons on the Xperia Arc more than the capacitive buttons on other phones. Never had a case of wrong button press. Nowadays i am watching something and poof, it is gone because i pressed back button or i am staring at an annoying menu because of menu button. After a while it gets annoying.

On screen buttons are further from the bezel though and i would like it if more OEMs included on screen buttons instead of separate capacitive set.

Capacitive buttons are more reliable and programmable. I can't stand physical buttons on the front, my one negative about my S3. However, I have programmed virtual buttons to bypass needing to use the physical button.
"on screen" buttons like on the iPhone, just waste precious real estate and because they never remain the same or in the same place, depending on the app you are in, you have to learn, or in many cases, relearn the function of many different buttons and layouts.
Frankly, I am glad that Android OEM's use capacitive buttons. I just wish Google could force every manufacturer to use the same button layout.
 

sentinelsx

macrumors 68010
Feb 28, 2011
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Capacitive buttons are more reliable and programmable. I can't stand physical buttons on the front, my one negative about my S3. However, I have programmed virtual buttons to bypass needing to use the physical button.
"on screen" buttons like on the iPhone, just waste precious real estate and because they never remain the same or in the same place, depending on the app you are in, you have to learn, or in many cases, relearn the function of many different buttons and layouts.
Frankly, I am glad that Android OEM's use capacitive buttons. I just wish Google could force every manufacturer to use the same button layout.

Er....ok that was confusing.

ON screen = buttons inside the screen like the nexus.

Capacitive = the ones you see on S3.

Physical= function like capacitive and are separate from screen but tactile (like in HTC desire, Xperia Arc etc, look for the pics for those if you haven't used them).

I think you are confusing these terms.

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Why then? Doesn't feel cheap to me. Even the back plate doesn't feel cheap.

Only thing I can think of is people are equating light weight and thin with cheap.

I don't really care about the "cheap" or whatever feeling about the S3 back, but that slippery back is annoying. The nexus back cover is far better. What was the guy who designed this crap smoking?
 

Hedgie58

macrumors newbie
Aug 5, 2012
15
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Why would anyone worry? At this point it is more or less just OS one prefers.

That being said I enjoy android but have a rooted galaxy s3 and a iPhone 4s and the one thing I find annoying is that even with jelly bean web pages are still slower over WiFi. So I expect the 5 with more memory and processing power will be significantly snappier than the galaxy s3. That being said the galaxy s3 is a terrific phone with other beneficial features not offered by ios.
 

Sensamic

macrumors 68040
Mar 26, 2010
3,072
689
I'm so so worried the new iPhone is coming out next week...

Jelly Bean is not a good enough update. We are still way way behind iOS and the iPhone. I mean, yes, we are getting offline voice dictation for EVERY language, but that's not useful at all. IPhone users are getting much much better stuff, like facetime over 3G, reject calls with sms, "superior" maps (is it a beta like siri was last year?), redesign app store app, etc.

I'm kind of worried, seriously. Looks like Apple is going to allow the new Google voice search app in the app store sometime next year probably...

Google now, Google voice search, faster OS (it's actually faster than iOS opening and closing apps for example), sharing pictures and videos over NFC, better notifications, offline Google maps, etc. Looks like we are in trouble.
 

Calidude

macrumors 68000
Jun 22, 2010
1,730
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I'm not a professional photographer in any way but the photos that I've taken with my S3 (posted in the food forum) are BEYOND mediocre. Here's some food to feed the trolls.
Why the hell isn't that cheese melted? Why is that pizza so cheap looking?
 

Mac.World

macrumors 68000
Jan 9, 2011
1,819
1
In front of uranus
Er....ok that was confusing.

ON screen = buttons inside the screen like the nexus.

Capacitive = the ones you see on S3.

Physical= function like capacitive and are separate from screen but tactile (like in HTC desire, Xperia Arc etc, look for the pics for those if you haven't used them).

I think you are confusing these terms.?

Are you still confused with my post? Or maybe I should put it in terms you can understand :


ON screen = buttons inside the screen like the iPhone. You know, the ones that eat up real estate of the already puny screen.

Capacitive = the ones you don't see on iphone. You know, the buttons that DON'T break, like the iphones Home Button.

Physical= function like push buttons and are separate from the screen, but tactile. You know, like what the iphone has and is known for breaking in less than a year. Do a Google search for pics of broken home buttons. You'll find millions of them.

If you are still confused, it's because you drank too much kool-Ade.
 

Southernboyj

macrumors 68000
Mar 8, 2012
1,694
69
Mobile, AL
TouchWiz IS a factor. Sure, us geeks types have the know-how to root and flash different Android builds but MOST people don't know, don't care and most importantly, don't want to care. So for the vast majority of smartphone owners, what they get when they buy it is what they use. For us, TouchWiz is NOT a factor. But for most people, it is. I personally like vanilla Android. It looks very elegant, simple and beautiful. It's also very smooth and complete-feeling.

Most the people that don't know what rooting is wouldn't even know what TouchWiz or vanilla Android is. I asked a friend of mine who has been using Android for about a year what version of Android she had on her phone and she replied "Motorola". She isn't very techy.. Also while I do love vanilla Android, TouchWiz on the Galaxy S3 isn't bad at all! There are some things I'd prefer vanilla on, but TouchWiz has some perks, like the quick-access toggles in the Notification tray.. sure you can get a 3rd party widget.. but nothing like native apps. :p
 

Southernboyj

macrumors 68000
Mar 8, 2012
1,694
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Mobile, AL
I'm so so worried the new iPhone is coming out next week...

Jelly Bean is not a good enough update. We are still way way behind iOS and the iPhone. I mean, yes, we are getting offline voice dictation for EVERY language, but that's not useful at all. IPhone users are getting much much better stuff, like facetime over 3G, reject calls with sms, "superior" maps (is it a beta like siri was last year?), redesign app store app, etc.

I'm kind of worried, seriously. Looks like Apple is going to allow the new Google voice search app in the app store sometime next year probably...

Google now, Google voice search, faster OS (it's actually faster than iOS opening and closing apps for example), sharing pictures and videos over NFC, better notifications, offline Google maps, etc. Looks like we are in trouble.

I wish my Galaxy S3 could reject calls with sms. :(

Oh wait, it can.
 

Hedgie58

macrumors newbie
Aug 5, 2012
15
0
Is there anyway to get the browser on th egalaxy s3 to beat the 4s rooted? I find this so annoying
 

onthecouchagain

macrumors 604
Mar 29, 2011
7,382
2
Man, I can't wait to hear more about the Nexus 2012 device(s).

Please don't let it be from Moto or Sony or LG. At this point, I'm actually rooting for Samsung. HTC would be a distant second choice.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
I'm so so worried the new iPhone is coming out next week...

Jelly Bean is not a good enough update. We are still way way behind iOS and the iPhone. I mean, yes, we are getting offline voice dictation for EVERY language, but that's not useful at all. IPhone users are getting much much better stuff, like facetime over 3G, reject calls with sms, "superior" maps (is it a beta like siri was last year?), redesign app store app, etc.

I'm kind of worried, seriously. Looks like Apple is going to allow the new Google voice search app in the app store sometime next year probably...

Google now, Google voice search, faster OS (it's actually faster than iOS opening and closing apps for example), sharing pictures and videos over NFC, better notifications, offline Google maps, etc. Looks like we are in trouble.

Are you kidding?

Whats to worry about? For me, im not gettng an iPhone so i dont care when or what comes out. The screen is still too small and it lacks many things my GS3 can do.

You said it is getting superior Maps? LOL, it wont be close to Google Maps and it isnt getting Google Now. Its getting Google search for why i dont know since it has Siri. Doubt it gets NFC with the metal back.

Jelly Bean is not a major update. It is an extension of ICS and it is a very good extension packed with a ton of better notifications and such.
Please tell me this is a sarcastic post!
 
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Zaft

macrumors 601
Jun 16, 2009
4,570
4,049
Brooklyn, NY
I'm so so worried the new iPhone is coming out next week...

Jelly Bean is not a good enough update. We are still way way behind iOS and the iPhone. I mean, yes, we are getting offline voice dictation for EVERY language, but that's not useful at all. IPhone users are getting much much better stuff, like facetime over 3G, reject calls with sms, "superior" maps (is it a beta like siri was last year?), redesign app store app, etc.

I'm kind of worried, seriously. Looks like Apple is going to allow the new Google voice search app in the app store sometime next year probably...

Google now, Google voice search, faster OS (it's actually faster than iOS opening and closing apps for example), sharing pictures and videos over NFC, better notifications, offline Google maps, etc. Looks like we are in trouble.

You really need to not take stuff like this to the heart. It's a phone man lol. Calm down and go outside once in a while. Why in the world are you so offended?? it's just someone's opinion
 

MrNomNoms

macrumors 65816
Jan 25, 2011
1,159
296
Wellington, New Zealand
That the forthcoming JB update doesn't look that good and that the iPhone may be better than we are anticipating?

:confused:

iOS 6.0 is merely a refinement of what exists - what is pushing me towards the Samsung Galaxy S3 is the rumours of the increased size so that it is longer. Sorry but a longer phone not only looks stupid but it is ugly and impractical. What I tend to use my phone requires more horizontal space so I would have sooner seen Apple increase the width whilst maintaining the height rather than the elongated freak show that is being leaked right now.

As for Jelly Bean - it is a refinement of an already mature operating system so although there is much hype about what will be arriving one also must acknowledge that there really isn't the 'must have' features that were missing from the earlier versions of Android and iOS.

As for what I'm going to do - I'm holding out till 12 September for some sort of an announcement but I'm already leaning towards getting a Samsung Galaxy S3. Sorry Apple but you seem to have this idea that you can push crap out onto the market and the gullible masses will chew it up and digest it with no questions asked but I've noticed more and more people questioning their loyalty to Apple gradually as what appears to be stagnation setting in. OS X has stagnated, iOS is stagnating with the flaws in the existing phones not being addressed (crappy battery life, horrible download speeds etc) - so why then should we Apple users even bother hanging around?
 

sentinelsx

macrumors 68010
Feb 28, 2011
2,004
0
Are you still confused with my post? Or maybe I should put it in terms you can understand :


ON screen = buttons inside the screen like the iPhone. You know, the ones that eat up real estate of the already puny screen.

Capacitive = the ones you don't see on iphone. You know, the buttons that DON'T break, like the iphones Home Button.

Physical= function like push buttons and are separate from the screen, but tactile. You know, like what the iphone has and is known for breaking in less than a year. Do a Google search for pics of broken home buttons. You'll find millions of them.

If you are still confused, it's because you drank too much kool-Ade.

LOL @ kool aid. So now i am drinking kool aid because your brain cells are dying....

ON screen = buttons the galaxy nexus has. See those buttons at the bottom of screen? The back, menu and multi tasking? Now go read your and my posts again.

Capacitive = like the ones on my Galaxy S 3.

Physical = did you look at the buttons on Xperia Arc or HTC desire?

WTF does the iPhone have to do in this discussion anyways? Are you so illiterate?
 

Diiiiips

macrumors regular
Mar 2, 2011
239
11
iOS 6.0 is merely a refinement of what exists - what is pushing me towards the Samsung Galaxy S3 is the rumours of the increased size so that it is longer. Sorry but a longer phone not only looks stupid but it is ugly and impractical. What I tend to use my phone requires more horizontal space so I would have sooner seen Apple increase the width whilst maintaining the height rather than the elongated freak show that is being leaked right now.

As for Jelly Bean - it is a refinement of an already mature operating system so although there is much hype about what will be arriving one also must acknowledge that there really isn't the 'must have' features that were missing from the earlier versions of Android and iOS.

As for what I'm going to do - I'm holding out till 12 September for some sort of an announcement but I'm already leaning towards getting a Samsung Galaxy S3.

100% agree with what you've said until where I've snipped it.

Except for movies I don't see the point of a longer phone. If you had a vote for longer or wider I bet the masses would vote for wider. I would even stick with iOS if it was going to be wider, even though I'm tempted by JB and it's advances but unless there is some hidden features unveiled on the 12th I'm ordering the S3.

P.s. I see what comedians say about the US not getting sarcasm and dry humour.
 

cynics

macrumors G4
Jan 8, 2012
11,959
2,156
Actually you do. I don't own one but I can purchase an S 3 anytime I wanted to. Except objectively, it's not even better than my 4S.

As a 4S owner only I disagree. The 4S is very antiquated. You can try to convince yourself otherwise but you are just fooling yourself.

IF the 4S was better then the best phone on the market then Apple wouldnt be making another updated version.

Let's compare like you did. Capacitive buttons, software buttons are/will always be better and have virtually no failure whereas a physically button WILL eventually break.

NFC, with Google wallet is very useful unless you don't live near.
- McDonalds
- Best Buy
- Gap
- WaWa
- 7-11
- Old Navy
- Radioshack
- American Eagle
- Banana Republic
- Foot Locker
- Guess
- Macy's
- CVS
- OfficeMax
- Toys R Us
- Sports Authority
- Jack in the Box
- Champs
- Sunoco
- Etc etc etc
People think its useless because they don't have it. Once the iPhone has it then it will be the most useful thing ever.

The iPhone screen is good? Why is Apple changing it? Not only is it washed out, its linked to eye health problems due to its small size and people squinting at it. Aside a high PPI it doesn't have much going for it. The One X has it right....

Camera is 100x better! How do you set the white balance, ISO and exposure on you iPhone? There isn't even 3rd party apps that can do it due to OS restrictions...

I love my 4S but I'm under no delusion that there are better things available....
 
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