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Great, so as long as I’m willing to surrender completely to Apple’s near-arbitrary way of categorizing my apps, and abandon my own system, which actually makes sense, then I won’t have duplicates! Yeah... not a great answer.

So don't use it? How does it affect your usage in any way? If you're so well organized why are you swiping past the screen you need to be on? You shouldn't even notice its there.
 
I've always had all my apps in organized folders with one screen - I hate swiping screens. Since iOS 14 - I've added some cool widgets to screens 2 and 3 but I don't think I'll be using them much.

I like everything on one page.
 

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You’ve now made that point about 10 times. We get it. Some of us still don’t want it a junk page of poorly organized duplicates.
I'm just pointing out that it doesn't change what someone has or how someone uses it since that seems to be getting brought up as a potential issue in relation to it all.

As far as simply not liking the idea of it being there, that's certainly something subjective and can apply differently to different people (again, similar to how it can apply to some already existing things like the Today View, for example).
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I've kept all my apps in folders for years and my God, I absolutely hate this.
You are still able to keep the apps in the folders you have just as you could before.
 
Options are good, and hopefully there will be an option to hide it for those who can't stand knowing its lurking there. This gives people another way to clean up and organize their apps, and doesn't affect those who prefer to keep things their own way.
 
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So don't use it? How does it affect your usage in any way? If you're so well organized why are you swiping past the screen you need to be on? You shouldn't even notice its there.
Ok, we’re going in circles here. I don’t want a junk page of duplicative clutter for no reason. I’m sorry if that’s hard to understand. I’m also the kind of person who deletes old emails and doesn’t keep random crap on my Mac desktop. It’s just how I am, and this bugs me. I don’t know how to put it any more simply than that.

I’m bowing out of this discussion, as it has run its course.
 
Ok, so you’re wiling to allow Apple to completely handle your organization. Glad that works for you. It does not work for me because the App Library organization is totally illogical.

Aside from the recently added apps folder, I don't anticipate using the App Library either.

As I stated many times, I just swipe down and start searching for whatever app I need. I have ALWAYS done this on iOS. It is a totally insignificant change as far as I am concerned. Use it if you like, don't if you hate it. It's so simple.

Spare me the hyperbole of "handing over my organization" to Apple. :rolleyes: I do not believe it takes any longer to swipe down from the primary home screen, type "z" and select Zoom from the results than it would be to swipe across screen(s), find my work folder, open the work folder, and select "Zoom." In fact, it's probably faster the way I do it. But if you want to use your folders, by all means, do what works for you.
 
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Ok, we’re going in circles here. I don’t want a junk page of duplicative clutter for no reason. I’m sorry if that’s hard to understand. I’m also the kind of person who deletes old emails and doesn’t keep random crap on my Mac desktop. It’s just how I am, and this bugs me. I don’t know how to put it any more simply than that.

I’m bowing out of this discussion, as it has run its course.
A simple solution would be for them to allow you to hide that screen the same way you can hide others, wouldn't even need anything in settings.
 
What bothers me about App Library is the necessary duplication it brings. As someone who almost never used the home screen to get to their apps (I always use Spotlight Search), the home screen was always just an annoying mess for me. With the introduction of App Library, I thought I could finally get rid of it. But you can't. As far as I can tell iOS 14 forces to have two home screen pages of apps. But then it also forces you to have the App Library enabled. So now I have two unnecessary ways to gets to my apps just cluttering up my phone.

I wish I could just have a page of widgets and then App Library list view to right, the dock on the bottom for the most essential apps, even though I would probably just end up using Spotlight most of the time at least that would de-clutter the phone.

And hey, I'm probably in the minority in how I navigate Apps on my phone. However, that shows that iOS 14 is this weird half-step in customization.
 
What bothers me about App Library is the necessary duplication it brings. As someone who almost never used the home screen to get to their apps (I always use Spotlight Search), the home screen was always just an annoying mess for me. With the introduction of App Library, I thought I could finally get rid of it. But you can't. As far as I can tell iOS 14 forces to have two home screen pages of apps. But then it also forces you to have the App Library enabled. So now I have two unnecessary ways to gets to my apps just cluttering up my phone.

I wish I could just have a page of widgets and then App Library list view to right, the dock on the bottom for the most essential apps, even though I would probably just end up using Spotlight most of the time at least that would de-clutter the phone.

And hey, I'm probably in the minority in how I navigate Apps on my phone. However, that shows that iOS 14 is this weird half-step in customization.
Not sure if I'm following correctly, but it's allowing me to have 1 home page w/ today view to the left and app library to the right
 
I am not on iOS 14 yet as I like to see what kind of bugs there are in the first couple of point releases. For all who are not liking the App Library I suggest you send your feedback to Apple about it. Enough complaints and maybe Apple will change it so that it can be configured or optionally disabled/enabled.

 
You don't have to abandon your system and can keep on using it like before.

Well, there aren't options like that for the Today View which has similarly been there as part of the home screen rotation for years. That's not to say that an option wouldn't be useful, but it is to day that for something like that it seems that Apple doesn't see it as something that can be disabled (similar to the Today View, Notification Center, and Control Center when it comes to what's accessible while you are on your home screen).


but its impossible just to keep doing like we did before, because its impossible in normal daily usage to avoid swiping one page too far and ending up on it, and for some reason, possibly the ugliness of it, the minute I swipe into it my next swipe back the way is always at the wrong angle and before I know it im in the alphabetical bit and its like %$%$% evacuate....

what ive had to do is to pad out my phone with page after page of big widgets so the App Library is so far away. I should have to do that and its not a perfect solution either.

apple just let us turn it off if we want to...please...
 
but its impossible just to keep doing like we did before, because its impossible in normal daily usage to avoid swiping one page too far and ending up on it, and for some reason, possibly the ugliness of it, the minute I swipe into it my next swipe back the way is always at the wrong angle and before I know it im in the alphabetical bit and its like %$%$% evacuate....

what ive had to do is to pad out my phone with page after page of big widgets so the App Library is so far away. I should have to do that and its not a perfect solution either.

apple just let us turn it off if we want to...please...
Well, it can certainly depend on how people use their devices to some degree, but I'm not sure it's anything even close to being impossible in normal daily usage to avoid swiping one page too far. I certainly rarely end up doing that in my usage, for example.

That said, again, it would be good to have an option for it all (similar to perhaps even having an option like that for something like the Today View for those who might not use it and care for it).
 
I also hate it.

I particularly dislike how it shows just the app icon but not the name inside each category square. Some apps have fairly benefit icons and I don't immediately recognize them without the name there.
 
it’s not hyperbole. It’s literally what you’re doing when you use app library.
Yes, the App Library itself is not under end user control. However what you had before -- the way you had apps and folders set up, and all that -- is still there and is still under your control (and you don't have to make use of the App Library or even access it).
 
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I am not on iOS 14 yet as I like to see what kind of bugs there are in the first couple of point releases. For all who are not liking the App Library I suggest you send your feedback to Apple about it. Enough complaints and maybe Apple will change it so that it can be configured or optionally disabled/enabled.


Just did. ;)
 
I like the idea and I find it extremely useful. I especially like the fact that you can hide apps from the Home Screen. Having said that, the App Library could be much better if Apple implemented some changes:

* Make it accessible from anywhere. Having to tap multiple times to reach the last page on the Home Screen is not a good way to access it. Maybe put it as a shortcut in the Control Centre
* Make it possible to assign apps to specific categories.
* Ability to rename categories

Even without the above issues, I still think that it is a good idea and I will be using the App Library...
 
Hate. It could use an App button icon that brings it up. No swiping.
Default to List. List can be: name, last used, last updated, most/least used.

I also prefer having APPS in Setting. And everything related to that app is right there. Widgets can go any- everywhere.

Obviously I would like the best of Samsung One UI and Apple in a phone.
 
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I have to say that I'm not a fan.

This is not to say there aren't those that will love this although for those of us that do actively manage our devices, more specifically our app screens, this will be of little help/use. Those that don't manage their screens and who rely much more on search and Siri probably wouldn't notice much of a difference as their behaviours will remain exactly the same.

So realistically I see this mostly as a move in order to present a more familiar environment to Android switchers. That said, Apple seems to have missed the point of why this part of Android is the way that it is with this. They also could have done a way better job of "replicating" it.

It's early days yet and I'm sure it'll evolve over time but like with notifications, I see more things that will need micromanaging. Especially as I'm seeing that Apple's ideas of how the apps should be grouped are different to mine. In reality there are apps that could/should be classified in multiple places.

I don't see myself ever using it as it lack utility for me. It lacks utility because I can't control it in the way that would best suit me. For what it's worth I use the Android app screens all the time because I can universally get to it. I'm crossing my fingers that the ability to manage it and group things in the way that suits me, assuming I want to group certain apps at all, will come in a shorter space of time than it's taken the Apple Watch to have owner-customisable watch faces.
 
I love the Library. I just updated and haven't read/don't know much about iOS 14 but I just kept my one home page and hid all the other pages, so now I have the widget page, my familiar home page, then the Library. Swipe right for widgets/search/swipe life for Library. Easy peasy.

Yeah, I kept thing organized in folders and on pages for years but I don't need that anymore. If I want to use ScannerPro for example, which I do a couple of times a month, it's much easier for me to search/open it from the alphabetical list.

And now my phone is also similar to how I use my Watch: some often used apps in the Dock and then a list to scroll for everything else.

It's also similar to my computer organization. Sure, everything is in folders and there's clear organization. And that's great and its comforting when I'm working in a project. But it's still faster and easier to use Spotlight search most of the time.
 
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I have several delivery apps. UPS, FEDEX, Hermes, DPD etc.
The App Library has scattered these all over the place. Some in “finance”. Some in “social”, even one in “shopping”.

It’s pure hit and miss where they are located and can’t be changed. Madness.
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No they cannot be re-grouped or re-named.

Blame the developers, they chose the categories.
 
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