Most likely scenario: some prices will be lowered as a PR initiative to coincide with the new regulations and then be quietly raised later on when there is less focus on the change. But mobile prices don't really have that much to cut versus the desktop/laptop market. They're already the bargain segment of the market.
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App Store to Be 'Split in Two' Ahead of EU iPhone Sideloading Deadline
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Then just download your apps from the official App Store. No one is stopping you.
This doesn’t compromise security unless the user decides to download from unofficial sources. Us Mac and Windows users already can do this and we don’t walk around with diminished security. We learn what are trusted sources and what are not.
All the Apple fanboys here crying about this is absurd. We paid over $1,000 for a device that is locked down. We own the device and should be able to install anything we want as long as we take responsibility for our choices.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I agree, but this starving artist doesn't have to make an either-or choice. They can leave their app in the Apple App Store exactly as is AND now- in the EU anyway- sell it direct too. Nothing changes for the App Store benefits of being in there. Dev just gains additional options for selling/monetizing their "art." IMO: more power to developers. I like that they can benefit from more than only one choice of distribution.
I don't really see any downside looking through a consumer lens. If I'm afraid per all of the security spin, I keep buying exclusively through the App Store. If I wish I could have some apps that Apple has rejected, I- if in the EU- would have access to those too now. If I'm a developer frustrated at "30% off the top" I can sell my app direct or in bundles, etc and NOT sacrifice 30% off the top. Etc.
How has that worked out for Android? The largest of the the large software developers just dont want to pay the AppStore commissions. This will do NOTHING to lower for pricing to the end user.
The EU never took Apple to court for those things. And the EU is going to allow companies below the cap to do your 1) and 2) points as much as they want. So it just boils down to Apple being really successful monetarily with mobile. That was their cheat code.
You understand this is becuase individual business were free to enter into mutually beneficial agreements, on their own, without being forced to do so by the government. Right?
I see nothing wrong with that. Bigger company, bigger rules. Same reason I'm for progressive taxation.
That argument never held up legally in the U.S. court system. Back in the day, there was a company that sued Nintendo for controlling which apps could/couldn't be sold on their 1st party hardware. Nintendo won the lawsuit.
This why I applaud the EU. Standing up for the end-user, even at the expense of a corporation.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Because Apple has taken a hard stance against it.
Many are not thinking as consumers or as capitalist consumers but only going with what appears to be what the corp wants... because the corp knows best in all such matters. Like all corps before Apple who had a complete lock on buying & selling, sellers always come up with very good, seemingly-logical rationale for why maintaining their big cut is an excellent deal for all involved. Some of us just swallow whatever is spun.
Now it's just a matter of time. Will the EU be destroyed by rampant viruses, trojans, malware, ransomware and bricked phones galore? Or will- like the latest iPhones- there still will be lint, minimal wobbly ports and nary a bit of the expected cottage industry of port replacement for all those broken USB-C tongues that were slung with passionate certainty when the EU forced that change from Lightning?
Those of us who think about our Mac app buying already know the outcome of this story. The rest of us get to see the real truth in 2024. Warn any loved ones in the EU to get out before the impending apocalypse or perhaps trust that maybe they know what they are doing and see what happens. Most will still be able to flee the impending doomsday once it begins to unfold. So most should survive this Revelations-level event.
Now what can I do about this ongoing lint problem? And dang it: I've invested in a 1000 USB-C port repair kiosks that don't have recurring iPhone owners stopping in for repairs nearly every day. So many were so certain that going USB-C on iPhone would end in total disaster for everyone. Where's THAT disaster?
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Not saying a referee in the world stage is not needed. Clearly a referee is needed for the societal order and safety but imo, a referee is not needed where "vote with your $$$" rule.
They're definitely not doing anything like progressive taxation. Billion dollar companies like Spotify and Tinder are exempt from the DMA.
Apple created the playground and set the rules for their playground. just what isnt fair about that?
The fact it doesn't agree with what you want, doesn't make it unfair.
as for your field.. want to guess what field I work in? Hint. The other side of the fence. You want to blame companies for high drug costs, but you should be looking at the government agency, called the FDA. An example of what government regulation can do for you the consumer. It used to cost about $350 Million to bring a new drug to market, now it's measured in the billions. Often as high as 5 billion. Just to bring it to market through the FDA gauntlet. Who is going to pay for that? What is going to motivate the drug companies to provide new desperately needed therapies? Profits. And it's a sad truth for every drug that makes it to market after spending $2 billion, another 10 drugs do not after spending 'only' a billion. So yep those drugs with high costs are paying for research, including research that does not always pan out.
That's why I resist governement stepping in. They always make it more expensive for the consumer.
and btw. want to know why drugs are cheaper to bring to market in the EU? because they are still science based there and they accept there is risk. the American consumer wants zero risk. thats expensive as heck.
I grant there is a need for the FDA. But they have gone way overboard. Just saying.
but yah. you go on about competition and high prices in medicine. if we got what you you think you want, it would be companies ignoring small markets to only pursue large markets.
and more people with rare diseases would just be out of luck.
you don't need government for true competition. You need it for safe competition.
None of this things would be legal in the eu and if attempted would lead to massive fines (calculated as a percentage of worldwide revenue) and eventually sales ban. And rightly so.
Consumers don't have the power to choose where to shop, how to spend their money? What business to frequent and which not to? What dystopian world do you live in?
Central planning? Is that what you're after, where Government gets to decide what choices consumers should and shouldn't have?The world I live in has given me incredible choice and freedom to spend and manage my money as I decide. You may think it's a horrible system; I'd simply suggest to you it's better than the alternative.
Or rather...as you seem to prefer...
Governments First, Citizens Second, business last.
I was really hoping they’d allow sideloading everywhere :/
I wonder if I use a VPN from my internal network routing (so the phone doesnt know) with an EU endpoint and temporarily change my location settings if I can temp unlock sideloading whenever I want to put something on
I wonder if I use a VPN from my internal network routing (so the phone doesnt know) with an EU endpoint and temporarily change my location settings if I can temp unlock sideloading whenever I want to put something on
Sad! Apple has no freedom to innovate anymore! If the EU wants its own app store, they can create their own devices that support it!
Apple has said in hindsight they made a mistake and if they’d do the Mac again it would have an App Store as we’re used to today
And one of my hobbies is spending time plugging away at getting new things to run on locked down hardware, it’s like a jigsaw puzzle but better as a hobby, as a consumer I’d prefer it wasnt necessary on my day-to-day devices