but it isn't apple's servers, they outsource it to amazon. Recently on these forums, someone bought 2 macbooks and paid apple for same day delivery and apple outsourced the delivery to uber eats, the user didn't get their macbooks and apple left the user with having to prove they didn't get their macbook. https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...king-like-apple-is-not-going-to-help.2441932/
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Apple Accused of Trapping 40 Million UK Customers Into iCloud Service
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Offering only 5 GB free when competitors offer at least twice as much for free, for example.
Good for you if you’re happy, but don’t be so blind. That you’re happy doesn’t mean they’re not playing some dirty tricks to get some more people to pay for icloud.
The point is Apple introduced 5GB of cloud storage in 2011 with the iPhone 4S and have never increased it since apart from the paid tiers, 13 bloody years is a lifetime in tech years. It's greed, nothing more.
Ah the old argument; they can afford it so it should be free. Want me to buy your drinks as well?
The average person is not basing their buying decision solely on how backups work on iPhones. This bites you after the purchase. The problem is a little bit more complex than "just don't buy an iPhone".
iCloud is so much more. You can use any kind of system or just use rsync from the command line. But what about everything else from iCloud? What about your messages for example across all devices?
and you would say the3 same thing if they offered 10GB ...
I'm using 650MB of my iCloud, not everyone needs more than 5GB
You can back up to both Google & Microsoft, as far as I know.
Apple is facing an almost £3 billion ($3.78 billion) lawsuit after British consumer group Which? on Thursday alleged that the company breached competition law by locking millions of its customers out of its iCloud service and charging them "rip-off prices."
Apple users receive 5GB of free storage to back up photos, messages, and other content, and are then encouraged to pay for the service once they exceed the limit. Prices for extra storage in the UK range from £0.99 a month for 50GB of space to £54.99 a month for 12TB.
Which? alleges that the company makes it difficult for customers to use alternative cloud storage providers "by giving its iCloud storage service preferential treatment," and "'trapping' customers with Apple devices into using iCloud."
The consumer group filed the legal action with the Competition Appeal Tribunal, and said it was seeking damages for 40 million Apple users in the UK. If successful, the lawsuit could result in a £70 payout per customer. According to the Consumer Rights Act 2015, all those eligible are automatically included in the claim unless they choose to opt out.
Which? said it was urging Apple "to resolve this claim without the need for litigation by offering consumers their money back and opening up iOS to allow users a real choice for cloud services." Which? CEO Anabel Hoult commented: "Taking this legal action means we can help consumers to get the redress that they are owed, deter similar behaviour in the future and create a better, more competitive market."
Apple in a statement said it rejected the suggestion that its iCloud practices are anticompetitive, vowing to "vigorously defend against any legal claim otherwise." Apple said it works hard to make data transfer as easy as possible, and that nearly 50% of its customers do not need nor pay for an iCloud+ subscription. It added that its pricing was in line with that of other cloud storage providers.
(Via Reuters.)
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Also, why would anyone want 3rd party systems, when they knowingly buy a proprietary system?
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Maybe they would if it was easier to set up with their favorite storage provider. Also, every average person has some geek/nerd in the family who takes care of things like that. Trust me, I am that person 🤷♂️.
no they would not. and no, the "average person" does not have a geek/nerd in the family taking care of things like that, trust me ...
Ridiculous lawsuit. I don’t really use iCloud, I back up my iPhone to my computer and it’s fine. I used to use Dropbox, but I got out of the habit of needing it. No one is forced to use iCloud, there are many other cloud apps you can choose with your iPhone:
www.cloudwards.net
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Can you still download emails direct from iCloud to your Mac so it doesn’t store it on the server to free up space?
Are you asking for permission to sue google or Microsoft? I give you permission.
Apple isn't a charity. You can always ask the government for free cloud storage instead of health care.
The free tier of 5GB has always been intended for syncing things like, system settings calendars, contacts, etc.
It is plenty for what it was intended for, if people want more? They need to pay for it.
Plenty of users (like my Mum) are fine with 5GB) me, I'm more than happy to pay £2.99 for my 200gb.
I'm wondering, how much does your cellular service cost monthly for the whole family?
No, but their phone does it each night.
Once upon a time, I used Android smart phones for 5 years, would you believe when I moved to IOS it was very hard to use for the first 6 months.......I wonder why ?
sure, those who have iCloud and the appropriate storage - which most do not have - or do you think there are 1B iCloud users out there?
