Since they pulled firmware rev 2C54 you should be safe. The rtings.com original review on 2B588 was positive, even though we don't have a review on the original 2B584.
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Since they pulled firmware rev 2C54 you should be safe. The rtings.com original review on 2B588 was positive, even though we don't have a review on the original 2B584.
The noise control on the 588 firmware has also changed for the worse hasn’t it?
According to rtings.com blog they didn't notice an audible change from 2B584, and didn't have a test done on that version - they do, however, show a degradation in low frequency ANC with the change from 2B588 to 2C54. So, they say 2B588 is better.
Firmware Updates causing poor ANC performance
Hi rtings, They’ve been many reports on Apple’s forums (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250887615) and on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/airpods/comments/ebjadh/new_firmware_released_for_gen2_and_pro_models/) that the first and second firmwar
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I still don't see why those of us on 2C54 are stuck while they leave hundreds of thousands keep using 2B588.
Mind you, my ANC is still very good for the fan next to my bed or exercise bike, bedroom ceiling fan, running water, the clothes washer and dryer, fireplace fan or the stove fan. But, it's really irritating to use in my car as a passenger trying to rest and hearing all the bass come through the APP.
According to rtings.com blog they didn't notice an audible change from 2B584, and didn't have a test done on that version - they do, however, show a degradation in low frequency ANC with the change from 2B588 to 2C54. So, they say 2B588 is better.
Firmware Updates causing poor ANC performance
Hi rtings, They’ve been many reports on Apple’s forums (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250887615) and on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/airpods/comments/ebjadh/new_firmware_released_for_gen2_and_pro_models/) that the first and second firmwar
I still don't see why those of us on 2C54 are stuck while they leave hundreds of thousands keep using 2B588.
Mind you, my ANC is still very good for the fan next to my bed or exercise bike, bedroom ceiling fan, running water, the clothes washer and dryer, fireplace fan or the stove fan. But, it's really irritating to use in my car as a passenger trying to rest and hearing all the bass come through the APP.
I’ve only just had my APP so on 2B588 but I don’t like hearing the cars on my walk at lunchtime. The noise is reduced but wish it would cut out more if it.
According to rtings.com blog they didn't notice an audible change from 2B584, and didn't have a test done on that version - they do, however, show a degradation in low frequency ANC with the change from 2B588 to 2C54. So, they say 2B588 is better.
Firmware Updates causing poor ANC performance
Hi rtings, They’ve been many reports on Apple’s forums (https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250887615) and on reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/airpods/comments/ebjadh/new_firmware_released_for_gen2_and_pro_models/) that the first and second firmwar
I still don't see why those of us on 2C54 are stuck while they leave hundreds of thousands keep using 2B588.
Mind you, my ANC is still very good for the fan next to my bed or exercise bike, bedroom ceiling fan, running water, the clothes washer and dryer, fireplace fan or the stove fan. But, it's really irritating to use in my car as a passenger trying to rest and hearing all the bass come through the APP.
the rtings report is misleading. 2B588 and 2C54 have no differences at all in ANC.
I own 2 pairs with the two different firmware: believe me. Every user will give you the same feedback.
the huge decrease in ANC happens with 2B588.
I'm basing my comment on the following clip - at the point of the red arrow that I added.
Also, apparently other than the deep bass rumble that still makes it through, I am having much better results with ANC than many other people, and it seems that the changes effected are different for some/many people.
Agreed. Despite rtings saying they found little variation with the 2B588 update, it is clear that update reduced the ANC (and it remained unchanged in 2C54). That is exactly when the Apple support forum on the issue started:
2B854 original
2B888 many people still on this and it's shipping with this
2C54 latest version that Apple pulled
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So, I found something else disturbing while listening to my pair with 2C54.
I have usually only been using it in transparency mode and ANC mode, using a long press to switch between the two, depending on whether I needed to hear what's around me or not. I have not been using the "off" or passive noise blocking mode, so it doesn't cycle through the three modes with a long press.
Today I have discovered that the "off" mode which is just a passive physical noise blocking mode sounds bad, like an FM radio with little bass impact or sense of ambience and space/depth, something I can hear and appreciate with the other two modes. "Off" sucks, and sounds more lifeless and bland.
I don't recall it ever being this bad when I got them 2 months ago and tried all three modes before settling on only using "transparency" and "NC" modes.
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When I first got my AirPods I could never hear the subway train pull up and now it sounds like they’re barely cancelling any noise out. Anyone have the same experience?
Siri changed this - how?
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Anyone else here hear the degradation in sound quality when not using ANC or Transparency, with just plain passive audio output?
Probably because Siri can no longer hear us properly over all the noise getting through our "noise-canceling" APPs.
Probably because Siri can no longer hear us properly because of all the noise getting through on the now terribly ineffective ANC of our APPs.
Yeah, with the APP siri mangled 3 of the numbers
I don't personally feel the sound when ANC and Transparency are turned off is any different. However, I do find that the difference between the "off" mode and having ANC on is negligible. Having ANC turned on is almost pointless now.
At least I know it’s not just me at least. I thought mine were defective. I thought there was no way that the ANC had been reduced by that much. Sure hope they fix this soon.
I’d be happy if they even reverted 2C to 2B cause it’s so much worse.
I won't. The lackluster ANC of 2B588 isn't what I paid for.
I don’t think the average consumer will notice so Apple has no reason to say anything. In all likelihood they may just release new firmware without notice and be done with it.
This is unacceptable. We will have to await the next firmware update and re-test. At least now there is pressure to make a change. I do think you would be well within your rights to demand a refund in full if this is not resolved to your satisfaction. And as you stated, we are now paying for a different product than the one at launch.