I don't think they will stick with 2b588 ANC due to all the bad press the APP has been getting. Also, if they really were okay with 2b588, they would have already allowed 2c544 users to revert back or sent out a new update by now. I think they are working on a fix that will hopefully come soon. today is one month since 2c544 released.
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Apple AirPods Firmware
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The original review was based on 2B584. They updated the review twice since then. The 2B588 did not cause a significant change in ANC performance; 2C54 did.
Apple AirPods Pro Truly Wireless: Test Results
The drastic change in ANC came in 2C54. This implies that those saying 2B588 has poorer ANC than 2B584 are incorrect.
I believe this to be incorrect. I know 2C54 is getting all the bad press but I can tell you I first noticed the reduced ANC with 2B588 and that is when the Apple support forum started on the issue. I have tried both versions side by side and the ANC is exactly the same.
uncorrect.
how can you explain all the guys here - included me - that haveboth 588 and 54 and noticed no differences in ANC.
Moreover: why do you think the never ending thread on Apple Forums started when 2B588 has been released?Look here
Stop all those misleading information ✋
On Christmas I tried my brothers app with the old firmware and I was blown away by the AC. Family was talking, music etc and all nearly gone. Then I got mine with the 88 firmware and it was good but not great
Story still picking up steam:
www.theverge.com
AirPods Pro owners complain of worse noise cancellation after firmware updates
Some early buyers are convinced Apple’s new earbuds worked better at launch than they do now.
Story still picking up steam:
AirPods Pro owners complain of worse noise cancellation after firmware updates
Some early buyers are convinced Apple’s new earbuds worked better at launch than they do now.
Let’s hope Apple does something about this soon.
At the very least, maybe we will get some kind of public response from Apple in light of all this bad publicity.
I'm merely pointing you to the website that everyone is using as evidence the noise cancelation changed between the versions of the firmware. It clearly states there was no change between 2B584 and 2B588. It does say that 2C54 is much worse than 2B584 (and 2B588). This is a site that many on this thread are using to validate their claims. The site uses equipment (not ears) to measure actual performance.
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Perhaps, but the website that is being used to support claims of ANC reduction in 2C54 is clearly stating that 2B588 did not affect ANC. If the website is incorrect then their tests should all be reconsidered as valid evidence of ANC degradation.
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Once again I'll point out the pertinent information since you seemed to have missed it:
Apple AirPods Pro Truly Wireless Review
The Apple AirPods Pro Truly Wireless are a welcome upgrade of the Apple AirPods (2nd generation) Truly Wireless. Their in-ear fit helps make them more stable, an...
www.rtings.com
You're the one misleading people since what you are broadcasting is personal here say while the above ling points to methodic testing.
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According to the website responsible for the testing results 2B588 did not significantly reduce the ANC. 2C54 did.
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I'm merely pointing you to the website that everyone is using as evidence the noise cancelation changed between the versions of the firmware. It clearly states there was no change between 2B584 and 2B588. It does say that 2C54 is much worse than 2B584 (and 2B588). This is a site that many on this thread are using to validate their claims. The site uses equipment (not ears) to measure actual performance.
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Perhaps, but the website that is being used to support claims of ANC reduction in 2C54 is clearly stating that 2B588 did not affect ANC. If the website is incorrect then their tests should all be reconsidered as valid evidence of ANC degradation.
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Once again I'll point out the pertinent information since you seemed to have missed it:
Apple AirPods Pro Truly Wireless Review
The Apple AirPods Pro Truly Wireless are a welcome upgrade of the Apple AirPods (2nd generation) Truly Wireless. Their in-ear fit helps make them more stable, an...
You're the one misleading people since what you are broadcasting is personal here say while the above ling points to methodic testing.
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According to the website responsible for the testing results 2B588 did not significantly reduce the ANC. 2C54 did.
ok just a question: so why the 20k views and 1.8k confirmation thread has been started EXACTLY when the author upgrade to 2B588?
If you give More credit to a single website that dummy-test the ANC rather than nearly 2k real users.... go forth ?
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I do give more credit to lab using audio testing equipment than I do to the subjective years of thousands of people. Empirical evidence trumps subjective opinions. After all, we're not talking about the sound signature and subjective characteristics of the headphones. We are talking about sound isolation that can be easily measured with equipment. This is not a case of a person having a better ear than a machine because it has an opinion. This is purely physics.
I'm not saying that I am going to trust any testing 100% but I certainly have to give a website that explains and backs up its claims with valid test data over people who think something sounds different than it used to. In addition, there is nothing that promises the ANC won't naturally degrade overtime with use. This would be an unfortunate engineering issue but nevertheless people who have been using their AirPods for many weeks and now have degraded performance can't be sure it is it entirely due to firmware without reverting back to the previous version of the firmware and testing again using audio equipment.
It's possible, that reverting back to an older version of the firmware (assuming you could) would not fix the ANC problem because the AirPods have "worn out" some. Perhaps there's an engineering flaw that has causes a degradation in the AirPods ANC over time
I agree with everything you say, but I certainly hope these are not products that “wear out” after 2 months of use (and I doubt they are).
Me too. Me too. IMO, the issues are likely firmware related and will be remedied over the next few months.
Months? It had better be weeks imo. Those of us fighting this battle have been adamant for a good while now that there was a legitimate issue in mid November (to the scorn of many). Finally the story has real legs. I don’t particularly care that RTINGS only said there’s a problem with the pulled firmware. Now there’s going to be real scrutiny of not only the revised firmware update to come but the very process by which Apple forces upgrades on our devices.
I understand your data driven approach. But there’s a broader issue here of anti-consumer behavior that we’ve seen before. I hope this leads to better airpods and more transparency in the future.
I’m sorry but this worn out thing is ridiculous. The earbuds have only been out since November. How can they be worn out? I have only had mine a few days and I can tell the noise control is not right. Mine are not worn out.
I'm not saying that's what's happening. I'm just saying we don't really know what's going on and to speculate that it's purely firmware based on hearsay is ridiculous in my opinion. There are websites that have tests using audio equipment. Use those as your evidence for any type of change in the noise canceling. Don't rely on forum posts by people who are using their ears.
ANC has worsen for me on the new firmware for sure. Prior to the update when I was at the gym, it would block out the gym stereo music fully, now I can hear the bass coming through which is very annoying. However areas with lower background noise such as when I am home, ANC works as usual like the previous firmware.
Also another annoying issue, when I’m using transparency mode and there is a quick loud noise, like my kids scream, the sound comes through my earphone distorted. Another annoying bug.
Lastly I’ve noticed on the new firmware, whenever I put in my earphones in my ear, I hear a quick distortion noise in my right AirPods.
hopefully it’s a software issue and not hardware as supplies are very limited in Canada for warranty exchanges.
Also another annoying issue, when I’m using transparency mode and there is a quick loud noise, like my kids scream, the sound comes through my earphone distorted. Another annoying bug.
Lastly I’ve noticed on the new firmware, whenever I put in my earphones in my ear, I hear a quick distortion noise in my right AirPods.
hopefully it’s a software issue and not hardware as supplies are very limited in Canada for warranty exchanges.
Not sure if I should send my pros in? They are now sounding like some cheap £5 headphones. Sound before was booming and loud NC was really good now they are the total opposite sound is lower even on full maximum and NC has taken a massive hit. Not what it used to be and connective problems all over the place. One pod will work one won’t etc etc. Do I have a right to send them to Apple or not? I would like to know. Far from impressed at this price point I have gone back to my beats x as the pros are all over the place at the moment. Also forget to mention I get fuzzy noises in one airpod also totally unacceptable.
i also have connectivity issues too. in personally gonna wait a bit before exchanging to give Apple some time to fix all the issues.
maybe the new iOS update also updates the airpods firmware? That would be a good news, I’m sick tired of this bugs coming with every software or firmware update..
just read.
I'm currently download the beta update (13.3.1 public beta 2) on my 2nd iPhone for testing both 2b588 and 2c54.
It sounds pretty weird but i'll gove it a chance.
After the beta install i will pair again both the APP and test what happens.
Another try i'll make will be let them both conneceted to see if something get the update (thinking about the 2b588).
I'll keep you posted!
UPDATE
13.3.1 beta 2 + with 2c54 no changes at all
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That's too bad. But thanks for checking it for all of us.
Could you post a link to the Reddit thread?
UPDATE 2
13.3.1 beta 2 + with 2b588, again, no changes at all
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you’re welcome.
here the Reddit post