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agree although i would not get 256GB storage in 2024
512 GB seems good
Yeah i like to play World of warcraft on macs, that would eat almost half the base storage. 256gb is really tiny, we run into issues on windows machine all day long at the office due the limited storage space, all our new machines we purchase are 16 GB RAM and 512 GB storage. My personal work laptop has 32GB ram for daily tasks it really helps and i am not a fancy system admin.
 
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Yeah i like to play World of warcraft on macs, that would eat almost half the base storage. 256gb is really tiny, we run into issues on windows machine all day long at the office due the limited storage space, all our new machines we purchase are 16 GB RAM and 512 GB storage. My personal work laptop has 32GB ram for daily tasks it really helps and i am not a fancy system admin.
I was actually happy to see them show Civ 7 on the iMac announcement. If the standard M4 chip can play that new game smoothly it's nice to see.

I'm not a big gamer that wants to play e-sports or shooters but enjoy 4x games and RPG's like Baldur's gate 3


I think when you want to install big games on your device you need to up to 1 TB tbh
 
Sure wish they'd make a larger one again

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You don't want that.
In fact, you don't want iMacs in general, a great but unrepairable and unupgradable computer paired with a great butunrepairable and unupgradable display. When one dies or isn't good enough anymore, it will drag the other to hell with it.
It's a bad idea that gets worse the more you spend on it.
You want a Mac Mini and a good display from another brand. Unless you only care about aesthetics.
I'll never stop saying this.
 
I just can not downsize to the old 24 inch iMac as I continue to wait for a 27 inch replacement. Besides Apple... any suggestions on buying another brand of all-in-one desktop computer?
 
I could see an iMac Pro having an M4 Pro or M4 Max also like the MacBook Pro's. Apple might throw in an M4 Ultra just for the heck of it. The problem is, is that they seem to be marketing their desktop Macs like this: iMac - M4 only, Mac mini - M3 and M3 Pro (Soon to be M4 and M4 Pro), Mac Studio - M2 Max and M2 Ultra (Possibly upgraded to the M4 Max and M4 Ultra), and the Mac Pro - M2 Ultra only (Possibly upgraded to the M4 Ultra). Being as such an iMac Pro would probably be an outlier. As an iMac Pro with an M4 Max and M4 Ultra would cannibalize the meager Mac Studio and Mac Pro's sales, Apple would be more than reluctant to include these processors in the iMac Pro. This would leave the iMac Pro to compete with the Mac mini with the M4 or M4 Pro. I'd say it's a toss up as to that happening. They may bite the bullet and push ahead with a 30" iMac Pro with either an M4 or M4 Pro to alleviate the wellspring of Intel-based iMac holdouts. Here's keeping my fingers crossed for just such a 30" iMac Pro or better!!! 🤞

You are leaving out Apple's most popular desktop machine - the MacBook Pro :)

Macbook Pros can be configured with M4, M4 Pro, and M4 Max (using M4 here because we know they are coming on Wednesday) and can be connected to multiple monitors of your choice. They also have the option of being used as a laptop around the house and while traveling. The improvement and versatility of the MacBook Pro has probably had the biggest negative impact on Apple desktop sales when compared to any other factor.
 
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The Apple-produced video in the OP touts a benefit of the new iMac having Touch ID. Despite that, Tim Cook still hasn't brought Touch ID back to the iPhone. Cook is incredibly clueless.
 
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The Apple-produced video in the OP touts a benefit of the new iMac having Touch ID. Despite that, Tim Cook still hasn't brought Touch ID back to the iPhone. Cook is incredibly clueless.
I still don't understand why we don't have both on products at this point as there are benefits to both (and for security heavy people can use both).
 
Sure, and you can also custom build a gaming PC that gets much higher frame rates than any Mac.

I'm not saying they don't overcharge for upgrades. They do, and they always have; it's just part of their business model. As a lifelong Mac user, it's one definite negative of the platform, but you can't have your cake and eat it too (as they say). I still vividly remember upgrading the RAM on my old Performa 575... but that one cost $2500 and only had a 250MB hard drive and 33MHz chip, so I'd still choose today's ridiculously powerful M4 iMac over any past model and rest easy knowing that some of my overpaid upgrade money is going toward R&D for some even crazier and cheaper machine in the future.

When I bought a 2015 5K iMac I upgraded to 1TB for at least €1.000 and the internal storage was almost about four times faster than the SSDs I was able to get for external usage. Now it's even slower and the SSDs I bought are much cheaper and larger than 9 years ago.
 
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2 TB maximum storage really is a disappointment, I would expect it to be available with 4 or 8 TB at least.

Also, I hope that this doesn’t mean that the M4 MacBook Air will be limited to 2 TB as well.
 
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I still don't understand why we don't have both on products at this point as there are benefits to both (and for security heavy people can use both).

"Margins"

Apple is more of an ATM for shareholders than an innovative tech company at this point

That's why every move is now a hyper calculated financial decision to always slightly keep "number going up".

No rocking the boat ... nothing too crazy or imaginative... just tiny little iterations, cost cuts and tweaks

Everything is about taking an emery board and slightly sanding the stock buyback widget known as "Tim Cooks Apple"
 
I wanted to wait for this until I got my second display to have two displays. The price is even a little less (but almost the same) than I paid for my M3 with 24GB RAM and 1TB storage, in the same configuration.

Only the 4 TB4 ports are great, then I maybe wouldn't need a Dock anymore or at least not that often. But I would also rather have 32GB and 2TB and that new glass since I see the difference to a non-mirroring second display every day.
That all together makes it much more expensive and I already have the Docks and more storage but can just use one Dock at a time, because one of them is taking two TB4 ports.

The upgrade from 512GB to 2TB is more than I paid for the FASTER external storage with 2x 2TB and 2x 4TB all together.
If I include the 4 TB4 cases it's of course more. But it's an All-in-One and I don't want to hang those drives permanently on it. Only the one I use for TimeMachine.

For double the price of the display upgrade I could get a second "4K" UHD display and both would look the same and are 27" with 120 or 144Hz depending on the resolution I use.

So I'd rather wait for a new Mini or Studio.
 
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You don't want that.
In fact, you don't want iMacs in general, a great but unrepairable and unupgradable computer paired with a great butunrepairable and unupgradable display. When one dies or isn't good enough anymore, it will drag the other to hell with it.
It's a bad idea that gets worse the more you spend on it.
You want a Mac Mini and a good display from another brand. Unless you only care about aesthetics.
I'll never stop saying this.

You don't want a great computer that will likely never need repairing, based on the extremely unlikely event it will need a repair that won't be repairable (since Apple will repair every iMac)?

And a great display that again you claim is unrepairable which is untrue but is unlikely to need any repair for at least a decade, and because you claim its not upgradable? Since you can't name another display that is upgradable, seems like a dumb reason.

My daughter has a 14 year old 21 inch iMac with mechanical drives that has never needed a repair, and display still looks great. I can't imagine how long a new 24 inch iMac thats basically solid state with connectors soldered down so they can't loosen will last.

Your needs are not other peoples needs. You can't even buy a 4.5K display from any other manufacturer, let alone a good one, and anything over 4K costs more than a brand new iMac.
 
I still don't understand why we don't have both on products at this point as there are benefits to both (and for security heavy people can use both).

Yes, iPhones should add an expensive touchID sensor for the tiny minority of customers that care about it.
 
I just can not downsize to the old 24 inch iMac as I continue to wait for a 27 inch replacement. Besides Apple... any suggestions on buying another brand of all-in-one desktop computer?

Oh noes, 4.5K isn't enough for me! I need 5K so I'm going to switch to another brand of all-in-one computers that max out at 4K, or spend $4,500 on a Microsoft Surface to get a 28 inch screen that's still shy of 5K. Tim Cook knows you are just a poser.

BTW: Its crazy that Apple is selling a 24 inch iMac that equipped the same (32 Gb RAM, 1 Tb SSD) as a MS Surface 28 inch for half its price ($2,299). Sure the 28 inch Surface has 20% more pixels on a 36% larger screen (so worse density), but the iMac has more than DOUBLE the single core and multicore performance of the Surface, and runs fanlessly cool instead of the Surface's fans grinding away to keep its Intel CPU from getting hotter than the sun.

What ever happened to Apple being the expensive brand?
 
You want a Mac Mini and a good display from another brand. Unless you only care about aesthetics.
I'll never stop saying this.
I am also thinking about that. But which display? Also the problem is that the price of teh mac mini+display option will be much higher, especially since the 5K displays are quite expensive.
 
For double the price of the display upgrade I could get a second "4K" UHD display and both would look the same and are 27" with 120 or 144Hz depending on the resolution I use.

So I'd rather wait for a new Mini or Studio.
Which display are you thinking about. I am also trying to decide between an imac vs mac mini+display.
 
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