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I can't follw the logic behind this. "The iPhone 16 did not sell, let's reuse the parts to make something less enticing".
you cant reuse 16 parts into 17 iphone.. so they had to make something to get rid of the old parts :)
 
You have to realize that Apple has reached a point with the iPhone where each new iPhone differs only minimally from the previous model, “innovations” are currently limited to unimportant features such as Memoji Creator or Image Playground. I would currently only buy a new iPhone because of the camera and maybe the battery (currently on an iPhone SE 2020). But overall I am super happy with my "old" phone.
 
I can't follw the logic behind this. "The iPhone 16 did not sell, let's reuse the parts to make something less enticing".

If anything, the price and specs of the 16e make the 16 way more attractive. If I were in the market for a new iPhone I'd rather pay $200 or so more and get the full feature list of the iPhone 16 than the 16e.
 
If anything, the price and specs of the 16e make the 16 way more attractive. If I were in the market for a new iPhone I'd rather pay $200 or so more and get the full feature list of the iPhone 16 than the 16e.
Which I echoed before in this thread. The naming scheme, the stripped down phone with an unattractive price all shows this is part of the "Maybe you should buy the real deal." upsell tactic.
 
If anything, the price and specs of the 16e make the 16 way more attractive. If I were in the market for a new iPhone I'd rather pay $200 or so more and get the full feature list of the iPhone 16 than the 16e.

I don't see the 16e making the 16 "way more attractive." For some, $230 is still $230 and the added features of the 16 over the 16e just aren’t worth it to them. The 16e offers a lot over the old SE and can meet many people's needs for just $599.

Similar can be said about 16 versus 16 Pro. $170 (which is even less than the gap between the 16e and 16) is still $170 and the added features of the Pro just may not be worth it.
 
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Not entertaining enough, and NOT a new mini.

Neither have I any problem paying more for a new mini.
Apple is making the same mistake they did with the XR. Some think the OG SE crowd wanted similar ( to the X) guts, same size screen but much cheaper phone. I didn’t, ~$100 cheaper was fine. Was hoping for pro spec, mini size in the 14,15, and 16. In all cases I would have paid ~$100 less than the pro. $800-$900 for a 16 mini?! YES
 
What a hot load of garbage. Starting at 749e (~$784). Quite a "low cost option". Many companies have 400-500e maximum price budget for company phones. Apple decided they rather lose all those companies to sell a budget phone at premium price nobody wants.

I feel sorry for Apple.
 
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600$ for a “budget” phone….

Get real
Nearly $800 in Europe. Enjoy.

Nobody in their right mind would pay that much for a such a crappy phone. Add just a bit more and you get a real iphone. The only one losing with this one is Apple when pretty much all the companies decide Apple is no longer allowed as a company phone. SE barely made the cut in some companies, and in some the personnel were willing to put in 50-100e extra of their own money to get it. Are they going to pay 350e of their own money just to get a bare-bones "iphone"? No, they are not.
 
$299 at Total Wireless


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In Finland equivalent of USD 627. Then we have to add 25.5% VAT for a total of USD 784.

Oof .. Expensive

To be clear, I'm not interested in this device -- just saw a somewhat palatable price so I thought I'd share it.

Also, this "deal" requires a $60/mo phone plan - lmao

I pay $8/mo on USMobile for unlimited talk/text & 2GB Data

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$299 at Total Wireless

You can get the 16e for "free" (via 24 monthly bill credits on "qualifying" plans) if you switch to T-Mobile.

For better or worse, these sorts of things are nothing new and it is long how the carrier/phone business has worked, at least in the U.S. Carriers, MVNOs, etc. all run so-called "deals" on existing and newly launched phones.
 
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Oof .. Expensive

To be clear, I'm not interested in this device -- just saw a somewhat palatable price so I thought I'd share it.

Also, this "deal" requires a $60/mo phone plan - lmao

I pay $8/mo on USMobile for unlimited talk/text & 2GB Data

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For my phone plan which is unlimited talk, text and data, I pay USD 30. There are no phone deals offered by carriers in this part of the word. They outlawed contracts a few years ago. I can change plans or carriers any time I want.
 
Looks like the cheapest qualifying plan is $50/mo

(I'm always blown away to see how much people spend on cell phone plans)

That’s how the carrier/phone business game has long worked. They entice customers with "free" or deeply "discounted" phones but charge high(er) prices for the plans. How good or bad these "deals" are can depend on the type of wireless plan, features, number of lines, etc. desired.

As far as T-Mobile is concerned, many of their plans include taxes and fees in the advertised price which can be a decent savings if someone lives in a state with particularly high wireless taxes/fees.
 
For my phone plan which is unlimited talk, text and data, I pay USD 30. There are no phone deals offered by carriers in this part of the word. They outlawed contracts a few years ago. I can change plans or carriers any time I want.

Although not outlawed in the U.S., most carriers have moved away from contract requirements. They instead give phone "discounts" via bill credits spread over 24 to 36 months which means you have to stick with the carrier for that length to get the full savings/incentives. However, you are still free to change plans or carriers anytime you want but would lose whatever balance of the discount/bill credits you would've gotten.
 
Although not outlawed in the U.S., most carriers have moved away from contract requirements. They instead give phone "discounts" via bill credits spread over 24 to 36 months which means you have to stick with the carrier for that length to get the full savings/incentives. However, you are still free to change plans or carriers anytime you want but would lose whatever balance of the discount/bill credits you would've gotten.
The carriers must get the flagship phones extremely cheap from Apple and Samsung to make these lock in deals financially rewarding to the carrier.
 
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