Maybe but what about all the other products? Do you think Apple will really increase prices for all their other products except for the iPhone 16e?
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Apple Announces iPhone 16e With A18 Chip and Apple Intelligence, Pricing Starts at $599
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It’s a huge downgrade from a 13 Pro in many aspects. Performance gains yes, but what do you need it for that much? Even an iPhone X is not at all slow for what you’d need an iPhone for.
The 48MP camera is nice because it can do 2x zoom but your 13 Pro can do it with the telephoto, and it definitely looks better than the upscaled crop from the main sensor. It’s just not that clear of an image, even though it’s technically the same resolution, optical will always win.
The base iPhone 14 had literally nothing over the 13 apart from crash detection and this is the iPhone 14, but worse in key areas that matter with a better chip that nobody cares about yet.
It could’ve been a nice device if it was at the same $429 even if it had last year’s chip but I don’t see why they replaced the iPhone 14 with a worse device at the same price. Apple is obsessed with the chip talking points but it’s not how it is in reality for users.
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I know. I have Spectrum where you pay for your own phone and not discounted through some stupid plan, and at most they sometimes give a $100 trade-in bonus on the latest models, which still allows them to profit on selling you the phone, considering that the wholesale price is probably 1/2 the MSRP for an iPhone, based on Apple margins.
But most fools in the USA pay for Verizon or ATT or T-Mobile and get their $30-$40 in "free" stuff every month in exchange for $50+ higher bills. They give you a phone that costs them $500 and a subscription to MAX or something that costs them $2 a month, and then charge you an extra $600 a year.
And that's why I say that it makes little sense in the USA, since those big 3 will give you a "free" iPhone and tell you how lucky you are.
I have a 12Pro and it does everything fine other than photos and magnifying glass, because the 3 lens system is so clunky and poorly integrated that you get dramatic shifts between lenses and focal lengths. It negates the whole purpose of a "pro" camera system when it gets in the way. I would image the 16e takes better pictures than the 12Pro, but I doubt anyone would do a comparison.
Would be interested to see if a third party embeds a MagSafe ring into a case and it aligns with a MagSafe charger anyway, and still works as a wireless charging base. Is the need for MagSafe IN the phone a thing at all? Or can a case substitute?It's funny - I was definitely a knee-jerk "WTH" to the idea of no Magsafe. But at the end of the day I'm going to use a Magsafe case anyway. That said, I don't actually have any Magsafe chargers - I just like the Magsafe holders in situations like my car. I guess this could be problematic if you're wanting to use a Magsafe charger - though it should still charge wirelessly then?
At the end of the day I still don't understand the omission - Apple has invested so much in the Magsafe accessory ecosystem, and now a certain segment of their user base is going to realize they don't really need it that much... at least need it embedded in the phone itself. Conspiracy theory - this is the beginning of them moving away from it being built into the phone!
At least MR is consistent with the hate for products that haven't even been released and used by the public. lol The amount of doom and gloom over new products never ceases to amaze.
If the 16e isn't for you for whatever reason. that is fine. Just realize that there are millions of other people in the world who think differently, have different needs and preferences, and barring a manufacture defect, will be perfectly happy with the new 16e. I think most here forget that MR land is not represent (as a whole) the typical mindset of an Apple buyer. I think most people are just looking for an affordable phone that will last several yers, and will perform the basic functions that are important to them.
I think most of the naysayers on here are spec chasers who care more about the perceived prestige amongst others that they think their Apple products bring them, (which strikes me as a high school mentality) versus the reality that nobody outside of them really cares what they buy and use.
I hope the 16e makes the buyers happy. I don't need one but, I may get one because it really is a big deal with this model being Apple's first foray into having their own modem.
If the 16e isn't for you for whatever reason. that is fine. Just realize that there are millions of other people in the world who think differently, have different needs and preferences, and barring a manufacture defect, will be perfectly happy with the new 16e. I think most here forget that MR land is not represent (as a whole) the typical mindset of an Apple buyer. I think most people are just looking for an affordable phone that will last several yers, and will perform the basic functions that are important to them.
I think most of the naysayers on here are spec chasers who care more about the perceived prestige amongst others that they think their Apple products bring them, (which strikes me as a high school mentality) versus the reality that nobody outside of them really cares what they buy and use.
I hope the 16e makes the buyers happy. I don't need one but, I may get one because it really is a big deal with this model being Apple's first foray into having their own modem.
I was looking at the specs like Joey in your profile pic, thinking this could be the one that does in my 13 mini. But then I got to that line and nope.
Essential for getting you to buy the iPhone 16 instead.
"E" stands for EXPENSIVE! This kills the whole idea of what the original SE was all about!
We make an iPhone 16e mini and you have the best phone ever ! :
- No 2x optical zoom
- Mini size
- 24h of battery
- best price ever : 429$
- you get everything else the iPhone 16e has
You know it’s bad it’s when most of the top tech reviewers didn’t even bother with a short video about the 16e.
Gonna be honest here, if my 13 mini is not further supported and there are only lackluster offers from Apple, I might return to the Android world.
I switched from Samsung to Apple, but now since a lot of companies offer the same critical support multiyear OS that Apple does, even for their entry phones, there is no real enticing offer Apple has right now...
As stated already, the E is now just a release to upsell you to the base iPhone and I don't regard the price - as advertised - as "greatest" price...
I hope there will be a severe discount on techresellers if this phone bombs.
I switched from Samsung to Apple, but now since a lot of companies offer the same critical support multiyear OS that Apple does, even for their entry phones, there is no real enticing offer Apple has right now...
As stated already, the E is now just a release to upsell you to the base iPhone and I don't regard the price - as advertised - as "greatest" price...
I hope there will be a severe discount on techresellers if this phone bombs.
I can't follw the logic behind this. "The iPhone 16 did not sell, let's reuse the parts to make something less enticing".iphone 16 did not sell so well so reuse the parts and make E version
RIP the LCD iPhone. Since there's next to no chance this doesn't use PWM, it looks like I (and others) will be forced to stick with the iPhone 11 as long as I can then having to leave iOS. It's going to be a pain missing out on airdrop, shared clipboard etc, but Apple clearly doesn't see any profit in offering an alternative.
In the UK we have an increasingly wide array of Chinese Android devices that are more competitively priced than this device with more features to offer. TBH unless you’re wedded to Apple this device doesn’t stack up that well in comparison especially at the far too expensive price point.
I bought the the Iphone 15 pro last year which was heavy discounted in favor of the new iphone 16 pro. I think i saved myself more then 500 euro.
Thats not something you can do with the SE as the buying the last year model means its really outdated by now as this new 16 e is barely on par with a 13 pro and there will be a 17 pro end of this year......
Honestly i will never buy a iphone pro again, for my quick pic/instagram post usage a normal iphone would be sufficient.
I do not play games and only have a few essential apps installed.
Inflation is a bitch so i understand the pricing bump.
I have learned that any modern mobile phone will do for me these days, if its android or iphone i dont care, what i do know is that my next phone will be on a budget as i dont see any benefits of paying double the price of a average android phone anymore.
I no longer have the needs that iphones used to provide over android phones as that playing field is long ago leveled out already.
Thats not something you can do with the SE as the buying the last year model means its really outdated by now as this new 16 e is barely on par with a 13 pro and there will be a 17 pro end of this year......
Honestly i will never buy a iphone pro again, for my quick pic/instagram post usage a normal iphone would be sufficient.
I do not play games and only have a few essential apps installed.
Inflation is a bitch so i understand the pricing bump.
I have learned that any modern mobile phone will do for me these days, if its android or iphone i dont care, what i do know is that my next phone will be on a budget as i dont see any benefits of paying double the price of a average android phone anymore.
I no longer have the needs that iphones used to provide over android phones as that playing field is long ago leveled out already.