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Jazzidiva50

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Apr 19, 2013
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Schedule Question

Of course, I enjoy the job. Lower then 13 but not quite 10.

If I do get a chance for the June class since my offer call was for the May class, does anyone know if they let you choose nights over day schedule or if you want to work a Saturday or Sunday?

The schedule process seems very rigid.
 

poloshmolo

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Apr 30, 2013
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I have a warrant for a parking ticket I did not pay which I am going to pay on friday to make sure I don't get arrested or anything. I have never been arrested or been to jail or anything like that. If my final interview is on tuesday...... Will I be refused the job or what will happen?
 

notforprofit

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May 3, 2013
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To the individual who referenced my use of the word "malleable" a few pages back, and then labeled me as "bitter" indirectly:

Congratulations to you and your brother on successfully obtaining for yourselves the role of Apple At Home Advisor. Given your physical limitations, I know that this opportunity must be ideal for you. Kudos for getting the "cream of the crop" as far as telecommuting CS is concerned.

Allow me to clarify, if you will:

The use of the word "malleable" is absolutely valid in relation to this job. Management looks for signs of "flexibility" in their interviewee which translates to malleability on their end. Be prepared for the very real possibility of manipulation from time to time to suit business needs.

This thread is a bit over two years old, yet it contains the same postings over and over and over again, albeit from different authors. That should tell you something. Given my prior experience in this line of work, I already have a great deal of insight. Even so, opinions formed sans experience would yield the same conclusions: Apple is not conducting this ongoing hiring bonanza to fortify an already large telecommuting customer service base. Rather, it is replenishing its viable workforce by REPLACING existing workers ongoing. Think of how many potential employees go through the four to six week training course with the full intention of quitting after training is complete. Yes, there are those who do that very thing. Now leverage those individuals against those who make it through training to go live for a few weeks at best only to say to themselves "I didn't think it would be like this - I cannot do this work!" Others will be stoked during their entire time in this role, may even love the job, but alas their stats or metrics, including SALES, will be sub par throughout - at some point they'll get the boot. Still others will be unable to balance work and pleasure due to an active social life or other personal demands. They'll miss too much work - see ya! Then, of course, there are those who are able to meet the demands of the job with relative ease but will nontheless buckle under the iron grip of standard Call Center employee policy and procedure. Expendable at all times. When I say "don't count your chickens before they are hatched," that's just a well intended "heads up" for everyone. It's great that folks were fortunate enough to get the gig, and I truly am glad for all. Even so, I can't help but wonder whether or not everyone has taken the time to consider the CONS of the job. Be prepared. Not everyone can do this type of work.

Finally, in regard to "all it takes is a great personality, some technical aptitude, etc" to get the job - that "anyone could get this job if I got it." Hmmmm. That's a bit insensitive. At this very moment, I'm thinking of all the qualified people with winning personalities who SHOULD have gotten the job but did not because - I don't know - the recruiter or manager heard the bark of a dog or the cry of a baby during the interview, and made a snap judgement seeking no further explanation in regard to the issue. Maybe someone else didn't get hired because their credentials represented a direct threat to a managers own employment stability. Perhaps another applicant neglected to put on the required manufactured "front" and was therefore too honest. And of course, the one conducting the interview may well have been your average jerk. Just as it may have been a fluke which disqualified one person, it may have well been a fluke which got another hired. You should consider yourselves lucky, indeed.

I plan on a successful reapplication process, though not in the near future. A 90 day wait seems appropriate - perhaps six months, depending on what I've got going on at the time(s).

Have a nice day!

Malleable and flexible are not actually the same concept. Because being flexible is an personal skill one learns. Being flexible, as a person, means being able to work with things as they arise or being capable of handling change in a mature way. Being malleable means capable of being plied or manipulated. You're insinuating that people got their jobs with Apple because their interviewers saw a person who is easily manipulated.

So not only do you sound bitter at not being successful where others with less or more experience than you were, you sound like a malcontent in general.

Maybe if you didn't have such a negative outlook of the hiring process, the recruiters, and the hiring managers, you would be more successful in your endeavor.

Also, as a point, this very job rides on your ability to have a quiet work place. If you allow a dog bark or baby cry to be heard during an interview, that reflects poorly on you. That's not the manager's irrationality. That's you not doing what you should do to show you're serious about getting a job. You probably don't deserve to be hired if you can't even ensure a quiet place to conduct an interview. Bad example.

And thanks for the unsolicited workplace advice, I guess. Because I totally didn't know that this job could possibly be difficult or come with the same realities all other call center/customer service jobs come with.

Good luck on your next go-around, though. Hey, maybe you'll get an interviewer that is exactly everything YOU think they should be! Remember to present yourself as malleable, though.
 

iCaramba

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Apr 24, 2013
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I have a warrant for a parking ticket I did not pay which I am going to pay on friday to make sure I don't get arrested or anything. I have never been arrested or been to jail or anything like that. If my final interview is on tuesday...... Will I be refused the job or what will happen?

I don't know if any of us could answer that question. I'd suggest speaking to your recruiter. I'd also get it taken care of before I submitted the background check. But that's just me.

Good luck. Always pay your parking tickets, yo!
 

AngryGerbil

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Aug 26, 2012
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Well said!!!

Not really. Some of what the OP said is correct, some is not. Their writing style is quite odd, it's almost as if they are trying to sound erudite when in fact they are not.

And "malleable" is in fact a poor choice of words. It means impressionable, not flexible.
 

Strax

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May 4, 2013
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This thread is just super-duper.

So, I'm currently making my way through all 305 pages of this thread trying to give myself the best chance of a positive outcome with this hiring process. I originally applied through Kelly Connect and am at the point where I'm waiting for the email with the app and background check. I did the interview on Monday and she said I should receive it within 24-48 hours. Right before the 48 hours was up, I got an email that stated I'd be getting the app and background check...eventually.

This past Friday morning, I decided that I might as well check and see what Apple had available directly and ended up submitting my resume directly (no cover letter because I'm a crazy risk taker like that). About 8 hours after that I got an email with the 12 questions and returned that about an hour later.

I'm hoping that I'll get a call from Apple on Monday and that I'll get lucky and actually make it through their hiring process before I finish Kelly's for all the obvious reasons.

I figured I should say hi and join in with the rest of the impatiently waiting so we can all suffer together. :p
 

Semprebella

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Apr 8, 2013
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I want to thank everybody for being awesome about all the questions we all have when we go through interviews and bcg check! I got my i9 form email yesterday had the HR call and fedex'ed my paperwork back to them. Currently it's in transit back to them in Cupertino CA! :) SOO.. I'm done!! i start may 20th.. Good luck everybody :)

I am in the exact place you are. Finally fedexed back to CA. I will be in the may 20th class as well. Now i just have to make sure that i can hold off in setting up the imac until the designated time :D

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Hello everyone :)

So yesterday I received my paperwork and looked through it briefly, but my paperwork call isn't scheduled until May 6th so I didn't do much with it.

However today I was looking at the offer letter and it said I had to have the offer signed and sent back to them by May 1st...? Which was the same day I received the offer letter. I already responded to the email (even electronically signed the PDF they sent me and sent that back to them via an attachment) but now I am wondering if I should hurry up and fedex the signed offer letter or if I can wait and send it in with my other paperwork.

Also I am assuming I should wait until AFTER my paperwork call to get the i9 verified..? I'm trying to get everything scheduled, I still need to get my replacement social security card...according to the paperwork a certified birth certificate and a drivers license should be enough to verify my identity but I still want to have proof that I DO have a ssc when I go to get my i9 verified...Both the apple retail store and the ssc office are a bit of a drive for me so I want to get this taken care of all in one day, preferably on Monday after paperwork session since everything needs to be received by Wednesday the 8th...

Where did everyone go to get their i9 verified at btw? I think I'll just stick with the Apple Retail store since it is the "preferred" method...

Sorry for all the rambling and likely asinine questions, this process is all very foreign to me and I'm a nervous wreck because I do not want to do something wrong...

I had my i-9 verified by a notary at my bank near my house.
 

JaxxBing

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Apr 21, 2013
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Not really. Some of what the OP said is correct, some is not. Their writing style is quite odd, it's almost as if they are trying to sound erudite when in fact they are not.

And "malleable" is in fact a poor choice of words. It means impressionable, not flexible.

I won't be getting into any "pissing matches" with anyone. I said what I thought was pertinent - some will find this relevant information useful to consider.

Incidentally:

mal·le·a·ble
/ˈmalyəbəl/
Adjective

(of a metal or other material) Able to be hammered or pressed permanently out of shape without breaking or cracking.
Easily influenced; pliable.

Synonyms
pliable - pliant - supple - flexible - yielding - ductile

As for my writing style - my employer has no problem with it. That is when I am writing, of course. For the most part, my duty is to edit the writing of others.

Keep spinnin' on that wheel, pal.
 

famous600

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Apr 8, 2010
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I won't be getting into any "pissing matches" with anyone. I said what I thought was pertinent - some will find this relevant information useful to consider.

Incidentally:

mal·le·a·ble
/ˈmalyəbəl/
Adjective

(of a metal or other material) Able to be hammered or pressed permanently out of shape without breaking or cracking.
Easily influenced; pliable.

Synonyms
pliable - pliant - supple - flexible - yielding - ductile

As for my writing style - my employer has no problem with it. That is when I am writing, of course. For the most part, my duty is to edit the writing of others.

Keep spinnin' on that wheel, pal.

Why are you here? Shouldn't you be writing for the times? Obviously we are all very impressed with your large vocabulary.
 

Danigirl84

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Apr 19, 2013
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Good question! I would assume all federal holidays. But maybe not those which fall on peak time? I've never heard of a call center classifying Black Friday as a holiday, though. Hahaha!
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The butthurt is abundant today, man.

I read that the past two years Tim cook close down the apple call centers for thanksgiving he gives the employees the week off with pay I hope he does that this year
 

macgeek01

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Apr 2, 2013
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Finally, in regard to "all it takes is a great personality, some technical aptitude, etc" to get the job - that "anyone could get this job if I got it." Hmmmm. That's a bit insensitive.

Because you've been so sensitive towards others, ha!
 

Semprebella

macrumors newbie
Apr 8, 2013
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I have but as I've mentioned a few times I'm stuck in a somewhat rural area for the time being and don't want to do a lengthy commute.

Why the interest? My employment status doesn't affect you in the least bit.

If you look on indeed.com and search IT virtual, telecommuting or work from home, you will see 100 percent IT jobs. Lots from xerox and united health group. I have applied to countless. I dont have the IT experience you have. I have only an AS in IT and most of my background as a branch manager of a staffing agency. I only did a 9 month coop-ship in IT.
 
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Jedi Master

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I won't be getting into any "pissing matches" with anyone. I said what I thought was pertinent - some will find this relevant information useful to consider.

Incidentally:

mal·le·a·ble
/ˈmalyəbəl/
Adjective

(of a metal or other material) Able to be hammered or pressed permanently out of shape without breaking or cracking.
Easily influenced; pliable.

Synonyms
pliable - pliant - supple - flexible - yielding - ductile

As for my writing style - my employer has no problem with it. That is when I am writing, of course. For the most part, my duty is to edit the writing of others.

Keep spinnin' on that wheel, pal.



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nothing useful to say
 

hkonger

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Jan 18, 2013
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2 month post-hire follow up

Well, I've been with AppleCare T1 CPU for about 2 months now, including 1 month of training.

The verdict?

I can't leave because of the great pay relative to my lack of experience/qualifications. If you have a social life, this job is not for you though. You WILL be assigned a random schedule out of training that WILL include at least 1 weekend day, and probably not 2 consecutive days off. This changes every 3 months, so you'll never actually have a stable schedule like a proper "9-5" job.

Another thing that really pisses me off is the time off/attendance policy. For anyone who's worked in other call centers, they are usually MUCH more flexible than Apple is regarding time off. You will get 12 days per year of vacation. If you work weekends, expect to use that before it accumulates just to actually see your friends/go on a weekend drive with your significant other or whatever else.

Non paid time off is essentially NOT an option, which really makes no sense when staffing is so high at this time of the year in CPU, 5-16 minutes between calls.

Anyhow, if you just want to stay at home and make decent money for never actually leaving the house, great, take the job. If you want to keep an active social life with people who DON'T work on a call center/retail schedule, you're screwing yourself out of a lot of happiness.
 

maipoxx

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Apr 22, 2013
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Guys should I be worried? I applied through Kelly services. I had my interview already. She said that im moving to the next step and i should start looking into pricing fora new phone line. The next step is filling out the onboarding info online. I did that. Two days later I get an email saying I need to email them 7 years work history since it wasnt on the stuff i filled out. I have none thats why i left it blank. I emailed them to tell them that Wednesday afternoon. I haven't gotten a call or email back from them yet... they're supposed to call within 2 business days to schedule an appointment to go into a Kelly services branch. But I got nothing.. ://

I tried logging back into the website where i filled out the info for onboarding,but it says my accounts been deactivated: /

should i be worried?
 

poloshmolo

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Apr 30, 2013
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AHA pros and cons?

So what are some opinions other then the one posted above for people that already have the job? What are the pros and cons of being a AHA?
 

Jedi Master

macrumors regular
An holidays and sick time

Well, I've been with AppleCare T1 CPU for about 2 months now, including 1 month of training.

The verdict?

I can't leave because of the great pay relative to my lack of experience/qualifications. If you have a social life, this job is not for you though. You WILL be assigned a random schedule out of training that WILL include at least 1 weekend day, and probably not 2 consecutive days off. This changes every 3 months, so you'll never actually have a stable schedule like a proper "9-5" job.

Another thing that really pisses me off is the time off/attendance policy. For anyone who's worked in other call centers, they are usually MUCH more flexible than Apple is regarding time off. You will get 12 days per year of vacation. If you work weekends, expect to use that before it accumulates just to actually see your friends/go on a weekend drive with your significant other or whatever else.

Non paid time off is essentially NOT an option, which really makes no sense when staffing is so high at this time of the year in CPU, 5-16 minutes between calls.

Anyhow, if you just want to stay at home and make decent money for never actually leaving the house, great, take the job. If you want to keep an active social life with people who DON'T work on a call center/retail schedule, you're screwing yourself out of a lot of happiness.

Don't forget sick time and holidays

All the Best,
Jed
 

superman4385

macrumors newbie
May 5, 2013
25
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Hey guys...I applied for the At-Home Advisor job and had my 1st interview last week. I've had 2-3 years customer service support and a college degree in computer technology, and over 15 years of computer and troubleshooting experience.

The interviewee was very friendly and easy to talk to. The position is full-time and starts in June 2013.

I have my 2nd interview this week with a recruiter via Facetime.

Any ideas on what to expect this time around for the 2nd interview?

I'm nervous but I've honestly never wanted a job before as bad as this! I'm excited.
 

EggyP

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May 5, 2013
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Birmingham, AL
Newb

So I've been lurking on this forum for about a week now and thought I would introduce myself. I'm a 26 year old female and am about 2 weeks away from graduating with a BA. I do have a fair amount of customer service experience, but no technical service experience...at least not in a professional capacity.
Here is where I am in the whole process:

  • April 25 >> Submitted resume to Apple (about 8pm)
  • April 25 >> Received the "you've caught our attention/questionnaire" email (11:30pm)
  • April 29 >> missed call from an interviewer. Called her back about an hour & 1/2 later and did the phone interview. Afterward she told me I would be completing another interview the next day via FaceTime.
  • April 30 >> Second interview (this one via FaceTime). It lasted about 30 minutes, and afterward I was told I would receive an email to schedule a final interview with a hiring manager.
  • April 30 >> About four hours after my second interview I received the email to schedule a time for my third interview (via FaceTime) with a hiring manager.
  • April 30 >> Received request via email to submit an official application with Apple.
  • May 6 >> 3rd and final interview went well.
  • May 6 >> about 3 or 4 hours after my final interview I received background check email.

Congrats to those of you who have already successfully made the cut!
I hope to soon be joining you in doing that proverbial happy dance. 8 )
 
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appleEater1

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Dec 5, 2012
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I've been in CPU for 5 months now and love it. Time off doesn't bother me because I'm here to do a job not take time off. When I did need time off it was never an issue. When my power went out unexpectedly still a non issue. The job can be stressful at times especially when you dive into issues with no easy resolution. Some days I get off work and am just drained. But seriously you get paid decent to work from home. You have a job that those work from home scams are all about. It's great. Not only that but if you do your job your working for a company that has never laid off an employee. Talk about job security. In the end it's just a job and either you like it or don't.

I agree, also in CPU T1 love it. I don't really feel like I'm working except on a couple calls a day lol.

I haven't had any experience with time off yet, but I work a 4x10, and have three days of a week, so you can definitely have a life outside of work.

In regards to the holidays, there are a few that we just have off bc the queue is closed. non of the big ones though lol.

When you initially start and this has been stated multiple times, but generally you don't get to bid on your shift fresh out of training, its assigned, with the only parameters for your choosing are 5x8 in which you may have split days off or 4x10 where most likely you will have at least 2 days consecutive.

If you have any other questions I'm open to being pm'd but I don't come to the forum everyday so responses may be delayed.

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Guys should I be worried? I applied through Kelly services. I had my interview already. She said that im moving to the next step and i should start looking into pricing fora new phone line. The next step is filling out the onboarding info online. I did that. Two days later I get an email saying I need to email them 7 years work history since it wasnt on the stuff i filled out. I have none thats why i left it blank. I emailed them to tell them that Wednesday afternoon. I haven't gotten a call or email back from them yet... they're supposed to call within 2 business days to schedule an appointment to go into a Kelly services branch. But I got nothing.. ://

I tried logging back into the website where i filled out the info for onboarding,but it says my accounts been deactivated: /

should i be worried?

Maybe a little. Generally your not suppose to leave it blank, you have to fill in the gap between employment. Meaning student, stay at home mom, whatever.
 

appleEater1

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Dec 5, 2012
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I read that the past two years Tim cook close down the apple call centers for thanksgiving he gives the employees the week off with pay I hope he does that this year

Most big wig corporate companies treat the Friday after Thanksgiving as a company holiday Hr. doesn't like coming in to work for one day then starting their vacation. lol

For the record I see no big qualm about inquiring about holidays. just because that important to you doesn't mean you have bad work ethic and your just trying to get out of work b4 you begin. it's important to have as much as possible, a 360 degree outlook on what your getting yourself into and how that may affect your life.

Black Friday may not be as important to everyone but I don't understand why the attack on a valid question that hasn't been asked and answered 10,000 times in the thread.
 

appleEater1

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Dec 5, 2012
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Hello all! I've really enjoyed reading up on the posts about this job and I have recently been hired on and will be starting Part Time iOS on May 28th. I am currently working at a job with Apple devices (not for Apple) as a repair technician. I enjoy my job now but drive 1 hour each direction every day, so I was really looking forward to the possibility of working from home! However, recently I informed my boss of the new job... and although excited for me and the opportunity, he came back with a strong counter-offer... so strong that I am stumped at this point with what to do. I know the position with Apple will be part time, but it seems that there will be a full time position to open up and I have no doubts in my mind that I can get that and climb the corporate ladder per say. So down to my question in the hopes of possibly getting a little bit of help from you who are in the position already. Anyone who has started at part time and moved to a full time position- Was the pay increased once the full time position was acquired or did your pay stay the same but you just had full time hours? If it did increase, could you give me an idea of how much? Trying to make the right decision for my family and I'm left in a tight spot with not much time to decide. You can feel free to private message me.
Thanks for your help!!

This is a question/situation you need to bring to your recruiters attention.
Just advise that your looking for a full time position. as you can see on the thread they are hiring.

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Got my offer call! Exciting...but, I have a day during training that I can't change for the May start date. I was told that you absoutely can't miss any training days. Does anyone know if they will move you to another class or if you have to start the whole process over again and reapply? I was told that the offer only holds up for This class. Such a bummer...I really would like to give this job a try but my hands are tied.:(.

Question did you divulge this information in the questionnaire ?
 

appleEater1

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Dec 5, 2012
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HOLY CRAP! I have my hiring manager interview next tuesday. I got 2 speeding tickets like more than a year ago. The state of Texas let me do drivers ed. I find out that I think the drivers ed was only for one ticket so I think they tried to issue a warrant for the other. I was like WTF! I was driving 60 in a 40mph, not like I was street racing or something. What should I do?

I had like three warrants the week of my background check.

I had my interview Monday BGC email came on Tuesday In the background Tues I Cleared warrants most I had to go back to court wed to clear the last.

submitted BGC late wed or early Thurs BGC came back with a pending misdemeanor charge. I saw it the day it completed and initiated a dispute, the dispute found that info to be false and I was hired.

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