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Apple CAN’T do AAA gaming [Merged Megathread]
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i think exclusivity is more important, and native apps usually utilize the hardware much better than ports.
Gaming on Mac (AAA titles at least) is a fantasy.
With $299 you can buy a Series S, less if there's a deal going on. You get a free trial of Game Pass so you can play any game on Microsoft's streaming library, and this extends to PC with Ultimate. So, if you have a PC you can also play games from Game Pass with one subscription.
That console will give you endless hours of enjoyment, there is no need to purchase a Mac often times 10x the price to play games. Macs are geared for productivity, software development, and media creation.
Most gamers who aren't PC master race nerds have a console that is far better at gaming than a Mac. And also cheaper.
With $299 you can buy a Series S, less if there's a deal going on. You get a free trial of Game Pass so you can play any game on Microsoft's streaming library, and this extends to PC with Ultimate. So, if you have a PC you can also play games from Game Pass with one subscription.
That console will give you endless hours of enjoyment, there is no need to purchase a Mac often times 10x the price to play games. Macs are geared for productivity, software development, and media creation.
Most gamers who aren't PC master race nerds have a console that is far better at gaming than a Mac. And also cheaper.
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who cares? Games? maybe we should all focus on appreciating those around us and enjoying life
And what type of game would that be? Something like Minecraft? Call of Duty? Assassins Creed? Or something similar?
I mean, Studios that develop $100M+ games have already assessed that it would be a major financial loss developing or porting to Mac and have no intention doing it. The predicted future for macOS gaming looks dim according to marketing analysts in game studios.
So what's left? It would have to be something like Minecraft, easy to develop, so-so graphics, easy to port and it would have to make a ton of money. Isn't that already there? Baldurs Gate 3 is here. How many copies were sold total?
That's what multiplayer games are for.
Erm, we heard about the first native AAA game in 2021 (Baldurs Game 3). Second one was early 2022 (Warhammer 3, Mac version is not released yet).
Like I said, I accept it's 'big money' and lots of adult males appear to be into it, to such a degree that they will stand there and tell me my Mac is crap because it 'can't do games' like I'd not thought of that and I should now be shocked and remorseful of my stupidity.
If there is any conceitedness at all it's by gamers who can't grasp why non-gamers literally don't care. It's difficult to express to gamers the feeling of "why is that even relevant" non-gamers have when we're told our expensive computers are crap because they "can't play games". It's probably going to be similar to spending ten grand on a range-cooker and someone tells you it's not as good as their $80 microwave because it doesn't have a preset for warming a bowl of baby-food.
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It is interesting that the mac still get strategy/crpgs but not really any of the other genres (action adventure, shooter, etc)
I just want Marathon back. You kids get off my lawn.
I am sure Bungie would argue that is what Destiny 2 is (with less offline single player-ness).I just want Marathon back. You kids get off my lawn.
the last 10-12 years have been a halcyon of pc games. lets just port those over and go from there..
Im not really excited about another lara croft game from CD.
well I may be the wrong one to opine on this as I still enjoy bootcamp on my macbook pro and iMac. I no longer feel that yearning for native mac games. most new pc games are crap now (though elden ring is good) so I am enjoying the past 10 years of pc releases for the very first time.
another one who doesnt read my post fully. No it means Macs are Made For Work like 3D Animation, Movie & Audio Production, Photo & Graphics Studios such work and not gaming
If that would be the case half of Metal API becomes pointless. Also, Apple investing millions in TBDR would be just a waste of money.
No it doesnt become pointless. Remember macOS, iOS, iPadOS, tvOS etc share all the same core. the same APIs get used over all the Device Classes. And if u would know anyting about Graphics u would know that. things like 3D & CAD Application works with the Same Metal API
So what? Why design a gaming-grade API if you don't intend to use it for gaming? Just for mobile stuff? There is no need to go though all that complexity. Android phones use much more primitive GPUs and they are doing just fine.
Regarding you last comment, I think I know plenty about graphics. I used to rather active in the OpenGL community a few decades ago and I believe I have a decent grasp of most contemporary GPU API and their history. Not to mention that I am developing games and GPU algorithms in my free time.
They will continue to be more focused on garbage mobile games with micro-transactions and energy systems, Apple will not move into AAA gaming. The amount of work and money needed to port games to inferior Metal API and to make them work on macOS (unless they are Indie games made on Unity etc) is too big for that 0.1% of gamers.
So what, if Apple itself is not on board or actively cultivating relationships with the gaming community then it won't happen. They've had gaming capable hardware long before AS chips.
Also high end PC gamers want to be able to upgrade their GPU's, add in streaming cards, customize their rig. Not possible with Apple hardware. Don't even point to the MacPro cause that is a Apple over engineered product.
And no one is waiting for 2023 to get a peek at what Apple may or may no do, cause we're playing great games right now. 1 Title will do nothing to sway away or take interest in Apple as a gaming platform, and most likely that title will be available on a preferred platform anyway.