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Making discrimination illegal only means that the people who wish to discriminate are more careful about not being caught...

No, it also changes the attitude. People do things because they think it's OK to do them. It's legal, so it can't be wrong. Being illegal means they stop thinking it's OK.

Let's say you are in HR. You managed to get someone sacked for being gay, even though this is not company policy. Your boss finds out. You could say "well, it's not illegal; I thought this was fine" and keep your job. Being illegal, your boss says "we just caught you doing something illegal that could be very costly for the company, so pack your stuff".

Or the other hand, your boss tells you to sack someone for being gay. Being legal, you can't refuse. Being illegal, you refuse, and if your boss sacks you you can sue him for tons of cash for being sacked for refusing to do something illegal.
 
Tim Cook couldn't have been more clear in the letter itself.
Why do you think he did it?

probably to prepare to make an announcement about a new Apple product designed for gays? :p

Honestly though... he's quote as stating why. Don't really need to explain it.
 
Good does that mean you'll stop coming to Mac Rumors? Or stop using any piece of technology since without a gay guy (Alan Turing) you probably won't have computers like you know them today.

Not to mention I'm positive you fall into this category: http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/homophobes-might-be-hidden-homosexuals/

Hopefully you can learn to love yourself one day and stop hiding.

Biased conclusions. Might be true in a small number of cases but far from completely true. Sounds more like junk psychology.
 
Normal is where how majority behave. Sex is betweenness and women. Marriage is betweenan and woman. If we cold tolerate homosexual, are we gonna tolerate sex between human and animal? How about human and objects?

This.

I have nothing against gays as humans, but I don't care to know about it, or hear about it, or look at it. I personally think it's wrong, and the way society is "advancing" at times, makes me sick. To each their own, I guess. As I age I hate to see what else becomes acceptable in society.
 
I am a Christian and I say that God made him gay.

He did. The field of epigenetics is uncovering this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H831wTEkSFE

TL;DR of the video. Homosexuality is pretty much certain to be caused not by a gene, but the expression of two different genes* in the womb.

*I forgot if the video mentions the two genes or if this came from a scientific discovery after this video was made.
 
obviously he does. Are you trying to be obtuse?

No, just I hadn't seen evidence to say he "obvious does", and considering the belief in God is often associated with ignorance, delusion and stupidity, it's nice to see a rational, intelligent person share their belief. It seems rare.
 
man... can we please have a new front page post and move on from this? He's gay, I hate brussel sprouts. You can't change either situation. (and opinions of others on either are irrelevant)
 
He did. The field of epigenetics is uncovering this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H831wTEkSFE

TL;DR of the video. Homosexuality is pretty much certain to be caused not by a gene, but the expression of two different genes* in the womb.

*I forgot if the video mentions the two genes or if this came from a scientific discovery after this video was made.

If this is true then either God is fallible or God has no problem with gays!
 
This is great. I almost cried a bit reading it. I hope it helps kids struggling today with acceptance.
 
Because watching you and your wife would be awesome....:rolleyes:

Haha. So true!


Lol...
So who "supports" your heterosexuality????!
Oh.. nobody?
Oh, sexuality doesn't need "support ", it simply exists?

Hahahaha....

Do you "support" me being a diabetic? I'm not sure I can bend to your will & expectations of strangers you'll never meet.

Ha, very good.
However you are still implying that being gay is a defect.
Maybe a question should be something like "Do you support me having a slightly red beard?"
 
I'm happy that he's happy. That's all that anyone should care about.

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if you're someone who truly promotes peace and equality, this is the only thing that should matter when it comes to the sexuality debate
 

yes... and I can show you just as many articles on struggles of being muslim, jewish, christian, a woman, a man, a boy, a girl, handicapped, abused, etc...

the world is sad place, and hopefully we can change it for the better.
 
No, just I hadn't seen evidence to say he "obvious does", and considering the belief in God is often associated with ignorance, delusion and stupidity, it's nice to see a rational, intelligent person share their belief. It seems rare.

Even the most brilliant mind are subjective to indoctrination. The inventor of the MRI is a creationist. he believes the Earth is only 6,000 years old. Heck, Einstein was also religious.
 
It is the first duty of humans to oppose bigotry. Tolerating bigots is the first step towards eventually tolerating the crimes of bigots. You tolerate the irrational view of bigots, then soon we will be tolerating laws the bigots might try to pass, restricting the freedoms of others. The Nazis were "tolerated" and look what happened to Germany.

Fight bigotry and bigots everywhere. Because, soon it may be YOU who is irrationally feared or persecuted for some ridiculous reason.
Still amazes me how when people speak anything remotely against gays, they are immediately labeled as bigots and compared to Nazis. Too funny.

Also, define "irrational". What is irrational to you is normal to others. Heck I think doing cocaine is irrational but try to tell that to an addict.
 
I just added about 6 people to my ignore list and you wouldn't believe how civil this thread now looks.

It's amazing how only 6 people can fill a thread that has about 40-50 people with so much hate.
 
I want to make a joke but I'm afraid I might get banned. Either way, I'm happy that he is felt comfortable enough to come out since I know that had to be a tough decision.
 
yes... and I can show you just as many articles on struggles of being muslim, jewish, christian, a woman, a man, a boy, a girl, handicapped, abused, etc...

the world is sad place, and hopefully we can change it for the better.

don't hold your breath....you'll die.

so many people laugh at me for building a self sufficient home and living off the grid. I can laugh back at them now with no power bills , water bills , debt free.

i have a regular job like everyone else , i just live differently.
 
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