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Being a gay is normal? So is sex with animal is normal as well? There is certain degree to it. Homosexual is not normal, it goes beyond nature.

You have no idea what you're talking about. There are documented cases of animal species being exclusively homosexual with the sole exception being when they procreate. Just because something doesn't fit into what you want in your little perfect world, does not make it abnormal.
 
That's always the most idiotic thing people claim. The only ones who could imagine being turned gay are those who actually _are_ gay and refuse to admit it to themselves.

Yeah that old chestnut.

What about the apple event recently handing out rainbow coloured iTunes gift cards and parading drag queens.
Is that not the promotion of a counter culture?
 
I thought sexual preference didn't define whether you were 'hip' or not.

Guess i was wrong


I'm not saying it seems to be more hip to me personally. But still, many tech companies are supporting homosexuality because that's what the under-20 generation seem to support, and that will make them more likable to a younger audience.
 
Yes there is an agenda to promote homosexuality. I don't agree with homosexuality but I am not homophobic nor do I treat gay people any differently to anyone else. It's my personal view, but I treat all humans with the same level of respect.

There is an agenda to promote marriage and families in America. If you don't decry that as wrong as well, why mention the 'agenda to promote homosexuality'?

There's an 'agenda' for lots of things in America. There's a pro-gun agenda and an anti-gun agenda. The word 'agenda' really means nothing but to make YOU think there are mobs of brainless people out there supporting something you don't like.
 
Good on Tim for coming out.

Makes no difference what his preference is.

Not that I want to be 'that guy', but a more appropriate term is 'oreintation'.

'Preference' implies that it is a choice.

But I agree with your sentiment.
 
Then you're crazy. But I don't mind, I respect each and everyone's opinion. But I still think you're crazy.

Gee, calling names about someone' belieif system? I thought this thread was doing pretty good until you did this. So tolerant of you.
 
There is an agenda to promote marriage and families in America. If you don't decry that as wrong as well, why mention the 'agenda to promote homosexuality'?

There's an 'agenda' for lots of things in America. There's a pro-gun agenda and an anti-gun agenda. The word 'agenda' really means nothing but to make YOU think there are mobs of brainless people out there supporting something you don't like.

Yes I say promote the heck out of marriage and family.
 
I don't think you're getting the "why he's doing this" part.

This isn't about showcasing one's private life, this isn't about trying to become a Kardashian to make money by exposing every sordid detail of your personal life, this is about using one's very prominent position to set an example for those who believe you cannot be openly gay and lead a successful professional life - you know, like kids who are raised to believe that being gay is not normal.
What, like this is something that hasn't been done before???

You are blind. His motivation is simply to push an agenda which has nothing to do with his job. Pure and simple.
 
You didn't have to come out because assuming that you're straight is the default...

Now, imagine the reverse. Imagine that being gay was the norm. That your parents kept asking your when you will get married to a nice man. That your colleagues kept asking if you had a good week-end with your husband. Imagine that when you go have a drink with colleagues, you would have to ear jokes and remarks about how straight men are disgusting. Imagine that you would have to hide the fact that you have a wife for fear of being banned from promotion at work. Imagine that when in public you would not dare take your wife hand for fear of being beaten or killed by extremists?
Just a couple of months ago we had a gay couple severely beaten by extremists, the guy spent weeks in hospital, lost of a bunch of teeth, had broken skull and jaw and will suffer for his whole life. His crime was to have held the hand of his boyfriend in downtown Paris and to cross the path of extremists...

Now, you really would not feel the need to come out?

Well put. Totally agree.
 
Surprised, now make sense all he's trying to do about equality, Tim Cook, concentrate on apple products instead of wasting time/ energy/ money to promote your sexual orientation.
Steve Jobs worked on creating best products possible, Tim Cook... well, do what you like, but please on your own time and not at the expense of Apple.
 
Of course it is. Why do you have a whole prefrontal cortex in your brain if it is not to use it to override your biological programming ?
Did you rape your wife? No, you asked her nicely. Because you used your cortex to override what is natural. Did you leave your wife after two years, as per your biological programming? Nope, because you chose the unnatural path of humanity. Do you kill everyone that annoys you? No, because you're making the choice to ignore your natural programming in favor of the unnatural laws of society.

Being human is being unnatural. Being gay is unnatural, as are most of our behaviours. So, yes, it is normal, it's a testament to humanity having evolved past our base biological programming...



Well, it is legal in some countries. But you can't compare homosexuality and bestiality.
For one thing, bestiality is purely sexual were homosexuality is emotional - most people can take pleasure in same sex intercourse, but it takes an homosexual to get emotionally involved in the long term.
But homosexuality, like all legitimate human relationships, demands consent. Animal can't give consent, so bestiality is a form of rape.



Yup. It's beyond nature. Like curing cancer, like space travel, like computers...

Thank you! I'll never understand why some individuals who don't agree with homosexuality almost always relate it to beastiality or even sexual predators just because they view it as an unnatural act. The only difference between hkosexual and heterosexual relationships is the sexes of the people involved. That is all. An animal or child can not, in any way, give consent.
 
Who in the hell cares and what the hell does this have to do with making computers and mobile devices???

This is the kind of crap that makes me mad. Someone using their high position as a business person to push a personal agenda. Just do your job Cook and leave your personal life at home. I don't need it in my face.

It's not a "personal agenda". He's actually using the powerful position he's in to help and inspire people who aren't fortunate enough to be in a place in life similar to his. There are people out there who have no support system and nobody to back them up if they were to come out of the closet. There are many people out there who look at CEOs like Tim as inspirational figures, and he may have just compelled a few of them who are gay to realize it's perfectly fine to be who they are.

Nobody forced you to read the article. Get over yourself.
 
So then please tell me what being gay has to do with technology and computing?
Why is the CEO of apple obliged to talk about sexuality?


If you cannot see there is an agenda then you are just plain ignorant. You don't have to be 'homophobic' to identify this clear agenda.

Let me break this down:

Married couples have certain benefits. In many states, it is illegal for gay couples to get married. Therefore, they can't get many of the benefits married couples have.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/estate-tax-will-estate-have-29802.html

Tim Cook is just bringing more awareness.
 
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