That's not how it works, you can't prove a negative. Any claims of a god have to be proven, not disproven. There is nothing miserable about wanting evidence.
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Apple CEO Tim Cook Publicly Comes Out as Gay in Letter Declaring Support for Equality
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That's not how it works, you can't prove a negative. Any claims of a god have to be proven, not disproven. There is nothing miserable about wanting evidence.
If he feels it was a divine gift, he should explain to help all the young people. It is nothing more than his justification for his lifestyle.
Clearly he was exposed to extreme radiation poisoning from Steve Jobs Reality Distortion Field and "TURNED." LOL
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Like with most people who spread hatred, including even atheists too at times, my standard response is, "Jesus hung out with the lepers & prostitutes, but he would probably not hang out with you."
Everyone always says that Jesus preached against homosexuality, but when pressed, they can never seem to pull out a New Testament quote from the 4 Gospels of Jesus's life.
Why? BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY!
However, there are plenty of mentions of homosexuality in the Old Testament promising death and eternal damnation, but if you follow every rule in the Old Testament, you wouldn't be able to eat at Red Lobster this weekend lest ye face the same result.
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Like with most people who spread hatred, including even atheists too at times, my standard response is, "Jesus hung out with the lepers & prostitutes, but he would probably not hang out with you."
Everyone always says that Jesus preached against homosexuality, but when pressed, they can never seem to pull out a New Testament quote from the 4 Gospels of Jesus's life.
Why? BECAUSE THERE AREN'T ANY!
However, there are plenty of mentions of homosexuality in the Old Testament promising death and eternal damnation, but if you follow every rule in the Old Testament, you wouldn't be able to eat at Red Lobster this weekend lest ye face the same result.
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Wow this thread is still number one on prsi. I'm enjoying watching the bigots gets called out on their bigotry masked with biblical love and chewed up.
That was beautiful. Not that anyone who needs to read it will get much from it, but just know that it was beautiful and you are right.
Perhaps one day things will be different. Sigh.
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i do believe religion can give peace to a dying "soul" , its hard not to respect trying to gather belief you will go somewhere else when you die.
im afraid of dying , but i will accept it if its tomorrow or the next day , i feel i am maximizing my days i have.
Wow! Why are straight men who are threatened by gay men obsessed with gay sex?
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
Methinks the lady doth protest too much.
I thought he had already came out as gay, years ago. Regardless, he's doing a fantastic job as a CEO and his sexuality should have no bearing on that
Hellen Keller saw this coming.
... and she's been dead for 46 years.
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Quoting the bible never proves anything one way or the other. It's a document of contradictions. For every quote there is at least one counter-quote that says exactly the opposite.
... and she's been dead for 46 years.
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Quoting the bible never proves anything one way or the other. It's a document of contradictions. For every quote there is at least one counter-quote that says exactly the opposite.
but if you follow every rule in the Old Testament, you wouldn't be able to eat at Red Lobster this weekend lest ye face the same result.
Even if I did care it was tereifa, I wouldn't say never going to Red Lobster was was a net loss.
This deserves a more thought out response than I have the brain power for at this hour. I'll see if I can find time for it in the morning.
Jesus didn't specifically call out homosexuality in his recorded sermons. This is not in dispute. He did, however, uphold the entirety of the Old Testament (that whole, not one stroke shall pass thing ... see below for the qualifier).
Actually, you'll be hard pressed to find any mention of the OT promising eternal damnation (the Saducees didn't believe in an afterlife in fact ... and they were the leading group of Jews at Jesus's day). But Jesus fulfilled the ceremonial side of the law. After his sacrifice, there was nothing else that needed to be done in terms of ceremony. Besides which, the tired jibe of not eating shellfish applied only to Jews.However, there are plenty of mentions of homosexuality in the Old Testament promising death and eternal damnation, but if you follow every rule in the Old Testament, you wouldn't be able to eat at Red Lobster this weekend lest ye face the same result.
Your response was respectful and I appreciate that.
Corporations are given human like rights and responsibilities. Are the humans that make up corporations supposed to be mute? Who decides what is appropriate for corporate officers to talk about? Should they all be gagged simply because it might upset some of the investors?
Steve was a rare individual, one who in his younger years was not as circumspect as he was later in life.
This statement clearly isn't about Tim, but about him reaching out to all the other people who struggle with their sexuality in the workplace, at home or at school.
Leaders lead in all things, not just that which doesn't upset those in the middle.
The fact that you know his name and that you expect us to know his name and that you call him by his first name, and that you assign your own beliefs to him shows that "Steve" was not successful when it came to keeping the focus on Apple and not on any particular individual (if indeed that was his aim). Even years after he is gone you hold him up like some deity.
I knew this topic would turn into an idiotic religious debate amongst hypocritical/ignorant human beings. Seriously, if you have nothing good to say, piss off. Really. You're wasting perfectly good oxygen for the rest of us to enjoy that aren't going around pointing fingers and judging others. You have zero right to judge ... in fact ... that's in your gospel. The golden rule is to treat others as you would want to be treated. The only time in which you are justified in judging others is if you are ... in fact ... perfect yourself ... which you are not. The world would be an entirely different place if everyone would just focus on loving one another instead of having a laser focus on all our differences. The bigotry and hypocrisy and hatefulness spread by people that are supposed to be spreading the love of Christ through their actions/words is astounding. I do hope you realize that in your gospel ... that all sin ... regardless of how severe you think the sin may or not be ... is a ticket to damnation. And it is only through the blood of the lamb ... Christ's sacrifice ... that you get to go to "heaven." Your sin is not any less sinful than those you are judging others for. All sin ... any sin ... is enough to make you unworthy of God. I have a good feeling that God is just shaking his head at all you folks pointing your fingers at and judging others because that is surely not in his teachings. Seriously ... follow your own gospel ... and love others ... and stop being hateful bigots that shame your own belief system ... you are pushing people away from your religion, not toward it ... when you act like hateful children.
"For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit, for each tree is known by its own fruit. For figs are not gathered from thornbushes, nor are grapes picked from a bramble bush. The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks."
If you're spitting venom from your mouth, you are speaking from a place of hatred, not love. This isn't bible logic, this is the human condition. You are either trying to move the human race forward or you are holding it back. So learn to love more and hate less and get your heads out of your nether region.
"For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit, for each tree is known by its own fruit. For figs are not gathered from thornbushes, nor are grapes picked from a bramble bush. The good person out of the good treasure of his heart produces good, and the evil person out of his evil treasure produces evil, for out of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaks."
If you're spitting venom from your mouth, you are speaking from a place of hatred, not love. This isn't bible logic, this is the human condition. You are either trying to move the human race forward or you are holding it back. So learn to love more and hate less and get your heads out of your nether region.
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I'm a convinced atheist but fully aware that most of my and our believes originate from the catholic religion when it was much more engrained in our lives hundreds of years ago I don't think that is a bad thing, because most of those beliefs promote equality, respect and basically the intent to lead a good life.
I live according to those believes and are of the firm conviction that this god that everyone keeps mentioning judges people on what they do in live according to those criteria. So if I ever meet him -if he exists- than I'm sure that the fact that I didn't sing every Sunday in a building and accept, respect and treat gay people like equals he will say "good job, well done. Come in".
If on the other hand he would favor people that treat gays like some of the persons in this thread, than I'm glad I'm not part of their gang. It would also convince me that this god is severely lacking in his moral build.
I live according to those believes and are of the firm conviction that this god that everyone keeps mentioning judges people on what they do in live according to those criteria. So if I ever meet him -if he exists- than I'm sure that the fact that I didn't sing every Sunday in a building and accept, respect and treat gay people like equals he will say "good job, well done. Come in".
If on the other hand he would favor people that treat gays like some of the persons in this thread, than I'm glad I'm not part of their gang. It would also convince me that this god is severely lacking in his moral build.
you gotta be a little careful with claiming atheist.. atheism is a core belief which all subsequent thoughts are based off of... much in the way that faith (or whatever) is a core belief which feeds the logic paths..
atheism is moreorless saying 'i have faith there's no god' but if you want to put it in the core belief category, you should at least be able to prove it instead of putting it there because "well, i'm not that (religious) so i must be this (atheist)"
sometimes, it's good to just float out there without feeling the need to latch on to a preconceived ideology
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moving on.. is mother nature a god?
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