Other Apple.com /Apple Store app iPhone X/8/8 plus Pre-order and Dispatch thread

[TimeSquareDesi]

I thought the same thing until yesterday. My wife's order went thru around 310am - on the Apple site, 256gb space gray T-Mobile phone. She paid for it in full with her credit card.

Yesterday morning her card was charged and her status is now "preparing for shipment."

Wife ordered her phone at 3:10am via apple app. paid outright for a space gray 256gb tmobile phone.

Yesterday her cc was charged for the full amount of the phone + apple care + tax ($1,442. OUCH!)

Today status says shipped with estimated delivery on 11/14.

 

[AHDuke99]

Card just got charged for the iPhone X. It says shipment date isn't until 17-24th. Does this mean it will ship earlier than expected? In the past I know we weren't charged until it was about to ship.

 

[Kabong]

Preordered a iPhone X 256MB Space Gray (ATT) on Oct 27 at 3:14am as I couldn't get the Apple store to load before then. Had a delivery date listed as Nov 17-24, but the credit card charge hit last night and I got a shipping notification today. Currently in ZhengZhou, China.

 

[David4077]

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we got pretty much the same tracking info our phones must be together. I think they are on their way to Anchorage in ups flight 83.

That flight landed 2 days ago according to the site. If they are on there does that mean UPS is super slow in updating their info?

 

[AppleAnne]

Is there a certain time of day they update order status? Like if I get bumped up when should I check?

 

[FreeHat]

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we got pretty much the same tracking info our phones must be together. I think they are on their way to Anchorage in ups flight 83.

It looks like we're plane buddies. I've ordered a lot of my phones from Apple directly and they usually go from the manufacturing city to Hong Kong then to Alaska. I wonder if the phones went to Korea first because US iPhones were in the same shipment as the phones meant for a Korean launch so UPS took out one huge shipment from the warehouse instead of 2.

Basically, say 50,000 iPhones go from factory to Korea. They all go through customs. 25,000 iPhones are unloaded and sent to Apple's korean stores. Remaining 25,000 iPhones go back on the plane to Hong Kong (which might be a big port for UPS) which requires them to go back through customs. Then they get sent off to America.

Once it left the factory, my delivery date on the apple website was estimated on the 10 IIRC. It was bumped to the 14th when it left Korea. The UPS tracking page says delivery date is unknown.

 

[OcramSagev]

Basically, say 50,000 iPhones go from factory to Korea. They all go through customs. 25,000 iPhones are unloaded and sent to Apple's korean stores. Remaining 25,000 iPhones go back on the plane to Hong Kong (which might be a big port for UPS) which requires them to go back through customs. Then they get sent off to America.

Very unlikely. UPS moves their planes around on demand and maybe the plance out of Incheon was full or had higher priority shipments. Hence UPS sent the pallet to ANC via Hong Kong. Pallets don't get better treatment than bumped passengers on American Airlines.

 

[rjjacobson]

So, everything fine until this morning...China to Korea to Alaska to Kentucky....and now apparently its stuck in Customs again? In Kentucky? Wouldn't they, I don't know, check off that box when the phone first came into the country?

No there is always a final customs check at the central UPS hub in Louisville perfectly normal may take several hours depending on when there are folks to do the customs check

 

[FreeHat]

Very unlikely. UPS moves their planes around on demand and maybe the plance out of Incheon was full or had higher priority shipments. Hence UPS sent the pallet to ANC via Hong Kong. Pallets don't get better treatment than bumped passengers on American Airlines.

What do you think is very unlikely? What do you think the reason was for them to be in Korea at all?

The issue is that there was no reason for the phones to go to Korea. They always go to Hong Kong for US export. They will have needlessly gone though 2 customs reviews because they were exported out of China twice.

 

[AppleAnne]

Why is this done every single release... why not just make more phones before launch day? They know there is going to be demand. I never want to buy another iPhone again after this... almost. I feel like a fool. Apple should have more respect for their customers, especially considering how much they cost.

 

[eleven24]

Why is this done every single release... why not just make more phones before launch day? They know there is going to be demand. I never want to buy another iPhone again after this... almost. I feel like a fool. Apple should have more respect for their customers, especially considering how much they cost.

And while all of these people are waiting for their phones, they are talking about them. Get your phone, show it to a friend and they want one too. They start talking about it. How it is in such demand that they have to wait for it. People hear how in demand they are and think hey I need to check this out. They do. They like it. They want it. Cycle repeats.

Apple knows exactly what they are doing and how to create a buzz around a product.

All that said, there were countless reports prior to the launch of the X that they would be hard to find due to the supply constraints of the 3rd parties and the true depth cameras. Probably the reason the 8 was released prior to the X as well.

 

[mdragoni]

And while all of these people are waiting for their phones, they are talking about them. Get your phone, show it to a friend and they want one too. They start talking about it. How it is in such demand that they have to wait for it. People hear how in demand they are and think hey I need to check this out. They do. They like it. They want it. Cycle repeats.

Apple knows exactly what they are doing and how to create a buzz around a product.

All that said, there were countless reports prior to the launch of the X that they would be hard to find due to the supply constraints of the 3rd parties and the true depth cameras. Probably the reason the 8 was released prior to the X as well.

Hate to agree but I think this is exactly it. Also, there are supply constraints, I don't think July releases becoming November releases and Apple customers watching Samsung and Google come out with new phones is totally a marketing ploy. That said, if I don't get my phone on Friday I will burn my local apple store to the ground.

 

[Blondie&Dagwood]

I never want to buy another iPhone again after this... QUOTE]


but you will....... What's up with the noise, if you had woken up in the middle of the night / early am on Oct 27th or stood in-line last week Thurs/Fri am, then you could have had a phone by now.

 

[darthlung]

Does anyone know if there is a different route for expedited shipping?

 

[TimeSquareDesi]

Why is this done every single release... why not just make more phones before launch day? They know there is going to be demand. I never want to buy another iPhone again after this... almost. I feel like a fool. Apple should have more respect for their customers, especially considering how much they cost.

It's for the limited availability hype / news that it generates. I hate it too bc we are paying customers that want the latest tech ASAP and I do not care for this media crap they generate that takes a month for us to get our phones...... grrrr.... and i absolutely agree with you, for paying close to $1,500 for a "commodity" nowadays, they definitely should be more considerate of their customers......


@Blondie&Dagwood --
"but you will....... What's up with the noise, if you had woken up in the middle of the night / early am on Oct 27th or stood in-line last week Thurs/Fri am, then you could have had a phone by now."


@Blondie&Dagwood ----- I did this and neither myself nor my wife have our phones yet. We both ordered at 3:10am (her) and roughly 3:20am (me, website was super slow!)... and no phones to show for our early morning eagerness.
[doublepost=1510176224][/doublepost]another note - apple charged me the tax on my phone 3 days ago and it's still a pending charge on my credit card statement. wtf.

 

[eleven24]

It's for the limited availability hype / news that it generates. I hate it too bc we are paying customers that want the latest tech ASAP and I do not care for this media crap they generate that takes a month for us to get our phones...... grrrr.... and i absolutely agree with you, for paying close to $1,500 for a "commodity" nowadays, they definitely should be more considerate of their customers......

BUT...

You are already conditioned into thinking you MUST place your order at precisely the moment they go on sale or as soon after as you possibly can so you can have your phone with limited waiting.

Outrage that one hasn't yet received their "commodity" is a positive thing for Apple. It will make future buyers believe they better damn well place that order at 12:01 or risk waiting forever to get it.

 

[TimeSquareDesi]

BUT...

You are already conditioned into thinking you MUST place your order at precisely the moment they go on sale or as soon after as you possibly can so you can have your phone with limited waiting.

Outrage that one hasn't yet received their "commodity" is a positive thing for Apple. It will make future buyers believe they better damn well place that order at 12:01 or risk waiting forever to get it.

welcome to the apple snowball effect they have $900B in proof that their psychological games are working. LOL.

i just want my ***** phone already!!!! i am going from a 6 plus to the ten so i want to see the night and day difference NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!

fun fact: i am still on ios 10.3.2. i make it a point to stop installing the latest ios updates so my phone does not magically slow down with new software. LOL.

 

[jj8824]

Phone has been in Zhengzhou almost 36 hours now...Est. Delivery 11/13...anyone have similar issues?

 

[OcramSagev]

What do you think is very unlikely? What do you think the reason was for them to be in Korea at all?

The issue is that there was no reason for the phones to go to Korea. They always go to Hong Kong for US export. They will have needlessly gone though 2 customs reviews because they were exported out of China twice.

a) They don't always go via Hong Kong, that is a fact. Google "UPS flight 99 iPhone" and verify what I said yourself.

b) It's not about what I think (shipment via Korea -- who cares what I think): I'm sure UPS has their biz. reasons.

c) There is a custom control (exports, prevent exports of panda bears) done by the Chinese government, then there is a US import control/clearance at the pre-clearance city (or US point of entry). Once it clears, cargo doesn't have to go through this again. This is only needed when an UPS int'l flight from a non-clearance city lands in Louisville (e.g. UPS Flight 214 from Cologne)

d) There are other business reasons, besides customs control, that determine UPS operations

The chart attached explains well what I wrote.
https://www.cbp.gov/border-security/ports-entry/cargo-control
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Phone has been in Zhengzhou almost 36 hours now...Est. Delivery 11/13...anyone have similar issues?

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A lot of us are in the same boat. I wonder if Apple told UPS not to deliver anything until next week since they promised 11/14 delivery (I don't think so but its possible)

 

[FreeHat]

a) They don't always go via Hong Kong, that is a fact. Google "UPS flight 99 iPhone" and verify what I said yourself.

Have you seen one tracking screenshot in this thread that didn't have a shipment travel from Hong Kong to Alaska? Also, how does this site know there are iPhones on those flights? I'm not trying to make a point. Just asking.

b) It's not about what I think (shipment via Korea -- who cares what I think): I'm sure UPS has their biz. reasons.

Then why did you reply to my post at all? The entire point was to speculate why it was stopped in Korea.

c) There is a custom control (exports, prevent exports of panda bears) done by the Chinese government, then there is a US import control/clearance at the pre-clearance city (or US point of entry). Once it clears, cargo doesn't have to go through this again. This is only needed when an UPS int'l flight from a non-clearance city lands in Louisville (e.g. UPS Flight 214 from Cologne)

What I was referring to was the shipment going through China customs twice however my shipment status at the time wasn't up to date. The customs review that was listed as the most recent event was actually in Alaska which I expected. It did not have go go through customs go get out of china and then back in.

 

[TimeSquareDesi]

I'm pretty sure, a month from now, after I have my ten in my hands, that I'm going to regret the time and effort I've put in / wasted in obsessing over and waiting for this thing to arrive. Amirite?

 

[gswilder]

I'm a Nov. 10 as of now. There are a few of us who have Nov. 10 according to UPS and Nov. 15 on the Apple Order page. Of those, many of us seem to be stuck for the last day or two in Incheon, SK. I haven't had an update myself in almost a day.
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Mine must be on the same flight track as yours. Got into Korea yesterday at 7:52 and hasn't moved in 24 hours. Looks like there is a UPS flight out to ankorage in a couple hours. That may be the outbound flight.

I too, was a Nov 17-24 date. Apple showing Nov 15 now. UPS showing 11/10. From previous history, once it gets out of Korea, it moves pretty quickly to its final destination. We will see.

 

[mdragoni]

Mine must be on the same flight track as yours. Got into Korea yesterday at 7:52 and hasn't moved in 24 hours. Looks like there is a UPS flight out to ankorage in a couple hours. That may be the outbound flight.

I too, was a Nov 17-24 date. Apple showing Nov 15 now. UPS showing 11/10. From previous history, once it gets out of Korea, it moves pretty quickly to its final destination. We will see.

Seems like half this forum is on that flight and the other half were exiled back to China. Do you have a link to the flight? I’m struggling to locate it.

 

[OcramSagev]

Have you seen one tracking screenshot in this thread that didn't have a shipment travel from Hong Kong to Alaska? Also, how does this site know there are iPhones on those flights? I'm not trying to make a point. Just asking.



Then why did you reply to my post at all? The entire point was to speculate why it was stopped in Korea.



What I was referring to was the shipment going through China customs twice however my shipment status at the time wasn't up to date. The customs review that was listed as the most recent event was actually in Alaska which I expected. It did not have go go through customs go get out of china and then back in.

You said "there was no reason for the phones to go to Korea. They always go to Hong Kong for US export."
Those are not speculations, they are big strong affirmations that I disagreed with and I wanted to share my disagreement with your post. Forums are to share and discuss (agree/disagree/add/remove).

 

[lyleberman]

I'm pretty sure, a month from now, after I have my ten in my hands, that I'm going to regret the time and effort I've put in / wasted in obsessing over and waiting for this thing to arrive. Amirite?

Ditto.