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Apple Discontinues 20" Cinema Display, Product Refreshes Coming?

drlunanerd said:
Corrected your post for you ;)
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Why did that need corrected; that's common knowledge and doesn't really have anything to do with the displays going Mini DisplayPort.

Because you can't use either (soon to be, anyway) of Apple's displays with a DVI connector, so "any other" graphics card wouldn't work with an Apple display, anyway.

And I already covered how the Mini DisplayPort-DVI adapters take care of the problem of using older monitors.

Gilfanon said:
\I've now given up on the Mac Pro since it seems like it's going to be April if not later before it's updated (and I refuse to spend £3,000 on a computer that's a museum exhibit in comparison 2 months later).
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June. And you obviously don't know much about the Gainestown.

Is this a consequence of Apple's fixation with the iPhone/Laptops/iPods? Have they simply lost interest in their desktop customers?
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Yes and yes. Nothing we can do about it.
 
Tallest Skil said:
The Mac Pro and 30" Cinema Display are going to get simultaneous updates to Mini DisplayPort.

Then you'll be able to use both the 30" and the 24" with it.

This will be in March-June.
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Will the MacPro still come with a standard DVI port as well so you can still easily hook it up other manufacturers monitors too? After spending £2000 on a Mac Pro it seems daft to spend another £20 on a displayport-DVI adaptor, when the old DVI port did just fine!

Only the laptops imo should have the mini display port, for space saving reasons. Nothing else needs it and can carry on using DVI ports.

I know many have said this before, but it seems crazy to make the cinema displays mini display port only - there's just no need! Leave them DVI.
It would appear the way it is going the only people who can buy the new cinema displays are modern Apple hardware users. I guess we'll find out for sure when the new displays and computers are announced...
 
I think the new white MacBook -- under $1000 and WITH FIREWIRE -- is a great deal for the budget-minded consumer (whether they be people with truly limited resources or plain ol' cheapskates.) While the aluminum unibody is flat sexy, I can't see why I should have to pay extra to get my beloved FireWire removed. This explains why I haven't gotten my vasectomy.

I think Mac minis are great and I'd love to see a new one soon. They really are a "gateway drug" to get people hooked into Macs and Apple products in general. I made my in-laws get a mini because their PC was constantly getting infected with malware. From then on, they surfed in peace. My father-in-law liked it so much, he got an iPhone and a MacBook. Apple's strategy really works.

With apologies to Cuba Gooding, Jr. -- "Show me the MINI!"
 
arn said:
He wasn't suggesting short term selling-through inventory delays:

"With all that said, Chowdhry estimates that 2010 would be a more reasonable year for Apple to release any form-factor upgrades for its desktop line, including the Mac Mini."
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That might be his reasoning, which I agree isn't very sound, but if we're looking for reasons for delays that might be related to the economy, I can think of at least the one.
 
What hype?

MagicWok said:
My last prediction for their bow-out from MacWorld fell flat, and that was a light prediction at best. Getting very bored with Apple hype now-a-days, which has become style over substance...
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What Apple hype? It's been very low key for several months. Don't mistake forums and blogs for official Apple events, press releases and ads. Macworld was never hyped, just the opposite, it was downplayed from summer on.
 
What annoys me more is being left in limbo. I bought the last mac pro refresh but held off buying a new pair of monitors as the line up seemed under spec'd. I have now been waiting over a year and now there is the possibilty my Pro won't connect to the new monitors. I hope that they have more than one connector. I know i should be able to get adapters but i'd rather not.
 
Are there any other companies still selling 20" 1680x1050 displays using an S-IPS panel? I'm pretty sure Apple were the only ones hanging on to this technology. I think there may be an E-IPS 20" panel (certainly 22") so maybe they will use that in the next iMacs and ACDs if they continue to offer that size. I think it is perhaps more likely we will see 24" and 30" H-IPS on the ACDs and iMacs and LED backlit TN on the 20" iMac though.
 
There was just a bit of engineering

Required to put the firewire port back into all these things, including getting Nvidia to put it into the chip set, running new tests, changing the "brick C&C" etc, etc...

I just hope I get to buy a new macbook soon. My current 2.4 penryn is nice, but I want the new chip set for snow leopard and the LED backscreen. But of course, Firewire is a requirement for me, and so is 13" so I guess I keep the one I have.

It would be a shame to go back to windows, but I have less to complain about since my "switch".
 
No Waring?

Mike Teezie said:
This scares me, because it comes with no warning. I want to get two of the current 30's to replace my two 23" ACDs I have now, and I want to do it before they possibly move the whole line to the glossy 24" style.
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When has Apple told the general public they are going to "end-of-life" a product?

You better break your piggy bank and get those 30s now; just because it is not in the rumor mill does not mean Apple will not update the 30" without warning :eek: at the same time they update the 20". Additionally your problem will not only be the glossy display it will be finding and adding the cost of a DVI to mini display connector. Of course you could bet on the possibility that retailers will discount the current generation to clear stock, but what if.....
 
Ugh...i was just prepping to buy this display now they're gonna be offering that glossy/proprietary (non-backwards compatible) crap.
 
I got my 20" Al ACD in 2004, right after they replaced the plastic models. It has served me excellently ever since and continues to do so. I hope Apple has a worthy successor for this fine product because the 24"er is too big for some and too expensive for others. There is still certainly a market for a high-quality 20" display.

I also agree with the comment that it is strange that the 30" is now your only option if you want to buy an apple display with your mac pro. And what about the mini? It can't even drive a 30"er, right? So unless there are updates and SOON apple is effectively forcing people to buy 3rd party displays with their mac desktops.
 
daneoni said:
Ugh...i was just prepping to buy this display now they're gonna be offering that glossy/proprietary (non-backwards compatible) crap.
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Completely with you. I was planning on getting one early next month. In fact, only yesterday, I was showing my friends it.

Does anyone know if Apple stores will continue to sell this until their stocks run out, or will they just not sell them, regardless of how many they have left in the stock room?
 
thebotoxkid said:
What annoys me more is being left in limbo. I bought the last mac pro refresh but held off buying a new pair of monitors as the line up seemed under spec'd. I have now been waiting over a year and now there is the possibilty my Pro won't connect to the new monitors. I hope that they have more than one connector. I know i should be able to get adapters but i'd rather not.
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Easy do what I've done and buy a couple of decent Eizo's. :D
 
Tallest Skil said:
Apple stopped selling the iPhone 2G two months before the launch of the 3G (and a month before its announcement).

They don't want to have to deal with people returning stuff just to get the "best" anymore.

Except in this case, I really don't see a replacement for the 20" display.



There are Mini DisplayPort-DVI adapters. If you want to use DVI monitors, you can. Problem solved.
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Damn yes good point tallest.. im being a bit of an idiot again the funniest part is that one of those adapters is about 30 cm away hooked up to my mbp and my 20"acd lol sorry i was thinking the wrong way round... as afaik u cant connect a display port dsiplay to any other port - yet
 
daneoni said:
Ugh...i was just prepping to buy this display now they're gonna be offering that glossy/proprietary (non-backwards compatible) crap.
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They have messaged "end-of-life", not called all the stock back to the factory. You can still find them in the distribution channel, matte screen and standard DVI connector
 
Padaung said:
Will the MacPro still come with a standard DVI port as well so you can still easily hook it up other manufacturers monitors too? After spending £2000 on a Mac Pro it seems daft to spend another £20 on a displayport-DVI adaptor, when the old DVI port did just fine!

Only the laptops imo should have the mini display port, for space saving reasons. Nothing else needs it and can carry on using DVI ports.

I know many have said this before, but it seems crazy to make the cinema displays mini display port only - there's just no need! Leave them DVI.
It would appear the way it is going the only people who can buy the new cinema displays are modern Apple hardware users. I guess we'll find out for sure when the new displays and computers are announced...
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I used to understand that one reason for spending lots of cash over the years on high end 'pro' monitors was things like having industry standard connections with replaceable cables, better build quality and features of use to people working with colour in professional practice. But according to apple pro now means bling bling and look wow it's so thin and omg! :confused:
 
donbadman said:
I used to understand that one reason for spending lots of cash over the years on high end 'pro' monitors was things like having industry standard connections with replaceable cables, better build quality and features of use to people working with colour in professional practice. But according to apple pro now means bling bling and look wow it's so thin and omg! :confused:
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Whatever gave you the idea Apple monitors were high-end 'pro'? :rolleyes: ;)
 
mkrishnan said:
I wonder, with Apple's emphasis on relatively high end products, and the falling price of LCD displays, why they need a 20" display anymore. They might well make the 24" the low end display and then move up the line instead -- either adding a mid-grade 27" or so screen or perhaps even a new top-end screen >30"? That seems particularly compelling given that the 24" display is marketed almost exclusively at the notebooks and not at the Mac Pro....
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In todays market they shouldn't be focussing just on the ultra high end, also the mac mini refresh is long overdue.

The mac mini's aren't even remotely competitive in the market right now!!!
FOR GOD SAKES APPLE!!! :eek:

At 649 CAD for the base model! When you can buy a slim dell desktop with more ram HD space, and processing power and for 30 CAD less (although thirty dollars is only thirty dollars)!!

mac
1.83 GHZ
1 GB Ram
80 GB HD

Dell
2.6 GHZ
2 GB Ram
500 GB HD

Anyone switching to mac will take one look at that and instantly go and buy the dell. That is if the giant gapping gaps in this price difference isn't only in the canadian market.
 
What do you pair with a 20" iMac?!?

So does this mean we're looking at a new 20" display coming soon or...the end of the 20" iMac?

I don't have room for a 24". I sure hope Apple keeps the 20.
 
flipperfeet said:
They have messaged "end-of-life", not called all the stock back to the factory. You can still find them in the distribution channel, matte screen and standard DVI connector
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I was planning to use my education discount which other channels dont give out
 
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