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Apple Discontinues 20" Cinema Display, Product Refreshes Coming?
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Yes, I did.
My point is that Apple's notebook line-up is more attractive than the desktop line-up, and that will certainly result in falling desktop sales compared to notebook sales, or (looked at positively) rising comparatively notebook sales.
Indeed, that's your self-fulfilling prophesy.
But, I am sure that notebooks will not be the real desktop replacement, at least not for most. I sure hope Steve doesn't believe too much in his own "prophecy".
His predictions haven't always been that correct.. (iPod not with video, Apple not going into the already overcrowded cellphone market, G5 @ 3.0 GHz..)
I agree. My husband and I had been waiting around and around to see if quad processor iMacs were going to come out and wanted to buy that plus a macbook pro. But, we desperately were in need of a new machine, so we JUST bought the low end macpro 8 core dual 2.8 along with a 20 inch refurb cinema display not even two weeks ago. I'm annoyed they have just discontinued them, but at the same time it's a GREAT monitor and was the size I needed. Not to mention I still don't know what to make of the glossy displays for color editing.
I think I'll wait for the new Apple 6 foot wide iDesk to come out. I hear it's ultra thin and made Green by using recycled newspaper and will be aggressively priced and retail for just $5,000!
Uh..you can buy a single processor Mac Pro for $2299 retail. I think that's under $2500, isn't it? Student price is $2,149.
Apple has put themselves in a tricky situation (something they have done multiple times before). Question:
How do you transition from one display connector to another without:
(a) offering a computer or a display with more than one type of connector
(b) offering two types of displays in parallel
(c) having neither a computer or a display in your product range that has no counterpart
(d) having to refresh the whole product line at once (ie, be able to stick to your traditional staggered release cycle)
while
(e) coordinating the release of new products with the availability of key components (motherboard, monitor backlighting, processor)
(f) minimizing the stock of old products when introducing the new one
(g) not relying on adaptors?
So far, they were able to stick to their plan but a tanking economy and an ailing CEO certainly complicates matters.
How do you transition from one display connector to another without:
(a) offering a computer or a display with more than one type of connector
(b) offering two types of displays in parallel
(c) having neither a computer or a display in your product range that has no counterpart
(d) having to refresh the whole product line at once (ie, be able to stick to your traditional staggered release cycle)
while
(e) coordinating the release of new products with the availability of key components (motherboard, monitor backlighting, processor)
(f) minimizing the stock of old products when introducing the new one
(g) not relying on adaptors?
So far, they were able to stick to their plan but a tanking economy and an ailing CEO certainly complicates matters.
You could buy another brand as here you do have a choice. We use NEC monitors with our Mac Pros and Mac minis.
Did you read Apple's last quarter results? Desktop sales have fallen off a cliff.
My point is that Steve made that prediction in 2007. Apple has since put more effort into flogging notebooks cos that's where their market is. It's been a self-fulfilling prophesy.
There will be a bump (and probably new record) in the desktop numbers since all three desktop models are awaiting refreshes (overdue ones too.) There's pent up demand.
I think I'll wait for the new Apple 6 foot wide iDesk to come out. I hear it's ultra thin and made Green by using recycled newspaper and will be aggressively priced and retail for just $5,000!
$5,000, eh?
I think you want some Milk.
I would LOVE a Milk, but if the price stays where they say it will, no dice...
Ooh... there's a black Milk...
Regardless, I disagree with the entire sentiment of the article.
- MacBook sales are skyrocketing 71% in the 1st quarter of 2009 compared to a year ago
- Desktop sales declined 25%. "iMac sales went to hell in December"
- The implication from the article is that Apple won't update the desktops because of these lower desktop sales being attributed to the economy (despite MacBook sales skyrocketing). Of course, the notebooks were refreshed in October and Jan. The Mac mini hasn't been since August 2007. Mac Pro over a year. iMac approaching a year.
- The 2010 quote. So is Apple sitting on a form factor upgrade that the have worked on for the past 6 months and not going to introduce it now because of the economy? That R&D money is spent. So, will they go back to the drawing board and redesign a new Mac mini with the current design case? How is that money well spent? Or will they just sit on the whole update until 2010, making it over 2 years before they update their Mac mini?
The entire article was a hodgepodge of ideas that tried to make a coherent arguement, which it did not. Maybe I should have blamed the author instead of the analyst, but I still find it all absurd.
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On MacMall it's cheaper than that. It's like $2,073 with a rebate or something. And for $2535 you can get the dual 2.8. That's where we just bought ours from. and figured to just go ahead and make the jump to the dual.
I don't think there will be a new Mac mini but what's what I think and it really doesn't matter! I never thought Apple would take Firewire away either!
...and to the guy talking about HP Touchsmarts...remember that I made the comment about if people would "educate themselves" before making the decision. I switched to Mac 3 years ago after a long hiatus (Apple IIe !!) and the difference between Mac and Windows to me is night and day. The hardware is better; the software is better; the OS doesn't even compare...but too many people have played Windows solitaire for so long that it's become too comfortable for them to switch. Problem is with their new HP Touchsmart there is so much pre-loaded junkware that any performance increases have already been eliminated by one very full system tray. THAT is one big reason why I own a Mac.
I'll make that... eerrrhhmmm.... marketing crap.
Unless Apple stop making iMacs... and Mac Pro's. With just the Mac mini as a desktop Mac, then.. yeah.... then notebooks will be 80-90% of what they sell. Less units overall, of course...
Yes, I did.
My point is that Apple's notebook line-up is more attractive than the desktop line-up, and that will certainly result in falling desktop sales compared to notebook sales, or (looked at positively) rising comparatively notebook sales.
Indeed, that's your self-fulfilling prophesy.
But, I am sure that notebooks will not be the real desktop replacement, at least not for most. I sure hope Steve doesn't believe too much in his own "prophecy".
What you're now saying doesn't tally with your previous post - you're repeating and agreeing with my point, not your own. Notebook sales are already over 70% of Apple's Mac sales, it's happening already, it's not marketing crap I'm afraid
Hmmm... Not available in the UK (yet). Presumably THIS is the nearest equivalent...
but nowhere near the quoted resolution of the SP2309W...
Oh well, the usual wait in for the rest of the world to catch up, i expect...
For a TV, yes. For a computer monitor, no. 30" feels big enough and more than enough.
Apple is becoming increasingly erratic in launch schedules, so anythings possible
Did you read Apple's last quarter results? Desktop sales have fallen off a cliff.
My point is that Steve made that prediction in 2007. Apple has since put more effort into flogging notebooks cos that's where their market is. It's been a self-fulfilling prophesy.
When two of your desktops are laptops crammed into small spaces with one being close to two years out of date and never having a real solid update cycle sense its release and the third is a $2300. People aren't going to buy ultra-expensive or non-competitive products. If you're going to get mobile performance might as well buy the mobile version.
Nevermind... so anyway. I hope this brings down the price of the 20" ACD so that people can pick them up for practically dirt cheap.
I love how it's got a mini display port and mini dvi port on the back of it.
I thought it'd been shown that the latest iMacs are not using notebook parts. Mac mini, yes, absolutely.
It hasn't gotten smaller and has improved functionality over its predecessor. Smart yes, but doesn't seem quite the Jobs/Ive style.
They're using special hybrid CPUs that run a little hotter (and may be cheaper) than the laptop versions. Everything else except for the display and the hard drive are laptop parts.