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Apple Discontinues iPhone SE, iPhone 6s and iPhone X
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Sometimes a wonder if Apple would be better off if they shipped iOS with a financial planning app. *Not* saying that that's *your* problem. Just wondering if they could pull it off and help a lot of people.
Switching gears a bit. What do people think about the SE vs. 7 or 7+?
What's it like it going from, say, the SE to the 7? Is the phone still comfortable, manageable, pocketable? Does the extra screen size or weight prove a cumbrance? Or, does it open up better browsing?
What about battery life?
Ah, found it. I've deleted the usual hedge "up to" to make the chart easier to read.
.............................iPhone SE.................iPhone 7............iPhone 7+
Talk time:..........14 hours...Talk (wireless): 14 hours.............21 hours
Internet:..................13 hours..................12 hours.............13 hours
Video play (wireless): 13 hours..................13 hours............14 hours
Audio play (wireless): 50 hours..................40 hours............60 hours !!
https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/
So, the iPhone 7 takes a hit on Internet and audio playback. The 7+ does much better than both.
What's it like it going from, say, the SE to the 7? Is the phone still comfortable, manageable, pocketable? Does the extra screen size or weight prove a cumbrance? Or, does it open up better browsing?
What about battery life?
Ah, found it. I've deleted the usual hedge "up to" to make the chart easier to read.
.............................iPhone SE.................iPhone 7............iPhone 7+
Talk time:..........14 hours...Talk (wireless): 14 hours.............21 hours
Internet:..................13 hours..................12 hours.............13 hours
Video play (wireless): 13 hours..................13 hours............14 hours
Audio play (wireless): 50 hours..................40 hours............60 hours !!
https://www.apple.com/iphone/compare/
So, the iPhone 7 takes a hit on Internet and audio playback. The 7+ does much better than both.
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Their last great phone in my view.
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Actually, you don't.
I would say it's a combination of both. The SE had a minor update last March (2017) to increase the storage, but it obviously never had the latest and greatest tech in it - which was by design to keep it the low cost alternative.
We'll probably never fully know exactly why the sales were low - whether it was because the small form factor turned people off, or if the lack of the latest and greatest tech specs did. Like I said, it was probably a bit of both.
You are obviously rather "passionate" about this decision - do you even own and iPhone SE?
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Huh? 8% isn't a lot...
Do you know how percentages even work?
If I gave you a 10% pay rise would you be happy or sad?
How many phones does 8% equal?
Did you know that Apple has sold 2 billion iOS devices. Lets say that "smaller devices" each year was 10% of that figure for easier maths.
Over the lifetime, 10% of 2 billion is 200 million devices. Not a lot eh!
Yes, could something have been edifying? All swords and guns. Are we so numb to violence?
Granted, Galaga has a special place in my heart. But that was impossible to follow.
8% is likely wrong as it’s a total guess because only Apple knows. And yes, 8% is still relatively small given that 92% are other iPhones.
Anyway, the question isn’t how many people own the SE. The question Apple likely asked, studied and answered with this decision is, “Can we get SE owners to buy other phones in our lineup that are more cost effective?”
I bought a loaded 7 when it came out, thanks to the hype. I felt cheated. The camera *in my experience* was not as great as advertised. The size was not comfortable for me to hold securely. I like wired headphones, and I like to keep my screen on when I'm on the phone (on headphones) which presented a charging problem. I felt like I had overpaid. I sold it and bought an iPhone SE, which I am still happily using (yes, even though the total outlay was very high). The SE is an ideal design for me. I can stick it in my cupped palm and take photos from any angle without losing grip. The size, the non-slippery edges, and the Bauhaus/Braun design cues please me. It cost me a lot of money to arrive at the solution that worked for me.
I can't really speak for anybody else, but by the time I've payed the bills, there just isn't much money to plan with. It's a good idea, but I don't think it would be much help in my particular case.
First off, you might do well to take a deep breath and take a step back from this - no need to get overly emotional.
Secondly, and to the point, I think it is perhaps you that is struggling with the concept of percentages. The whole point of a percentage is to give you a comparative number. In Q3 of 2018, Apple sold 41.3 million iPhones. 8% of those were the iPhone SE - or about 3.3 million phones. Sure, 3.3 million is numerically a lot - but comparatively it’s only 8%. Hence, the point of percentages.
Now, if you still feel that 8% is a big number (which, again, it isn’t), let’s consider overall revenue. Unfortunately, I don’t have a break down of how much Apple actually earns per phone - but we can safely assume that Apple earns significantly less from each iPhone SE than say the iPhone X or even iPhone 8 (both of which sold in the double digit percentage wise). As such, the revenue from the iPhone SE would be even less than 8% - probably closer to 5%
In short, yes 8% isn’t a large number. In fact, it is 92% less than 100!
Money above everything...nice!
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That’s scary. He looked uncomfortable and had the personality of a corpse.
Yes, there are two of them being actively used in my household.
Amazon has them, at least they did a couple of days ago. Also probably stores like Walmart and Target will be wanting to unload the SE.
I'm seriously thinking about getting a new SE whilst still available, just to have it when my first one breaks or something. I'd gotten it when the SE first came out, and it's a stellar phone; don't want any other form factor. And...it's too late for me to go into any other company, because of wanting my phone to always 'talk' to my iMac and other devices.
So basically, Apple is no longer cares about customer experience, it cares about profit margin over everything else? Great!
Apple is turning into Microsoft of the 90s/early 2000s.
[doublepost=1536888838][/doublepost]Someone should remind Apple of this advert -
The SE has a higher market share in a lot of places than the X.
Would love this - a March 2019 introduction. Not sure if it'll happen though.
Who said the SE is a great experience? Times have changed...people generally seem to want bigger displays...I mean, the market confirms this.
Customer satisfaction for 2017 (when the SE was still relatively new) was higher than the iPhone 6,6S and 7.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/2...-survey-despite-shift-towards-larger-screens/
In the same way that MacBook Pro users generally seem to "want" fewer ports, batteries that you can't replace yourself anymore, as well as RAM and SSD soldered to the logic board...
I agree my 6s plus has ran great for 3yrs. When’s the last day for battery replacement.
Well it’s 98 for the X and every new device looks like the X and has FaceID. Again, the SE can’t go toe to toe with the new stuff. Times have changed.Customer satisfaction for 2017 (when the SE was still relatively new) was higher than the iPhone 6,6S and 7.
https://www.macrumors.com/2017/05/2...-survey-despite-shift-towards-larger-screens/
I recently upgraded my SE from 10.6 to the newest which is 11.4.1, and you know? It works Better with the newer OS! And I think I read somewhere that the SE will also be compatible with iOS 12.
Yeah, just with those, mot of th market doesn’t care. I personally like the universal ports versus single use ones like SD card readers, old USBs and other nonsense.
Most people have no interest in replacing anything. Sorry, just how consumer electronics work. Build your own machine.